Bloody Hell!!

[Hirsty]

I didn't think that we had any "funds" hence the march of the £35 boys ?

 

We are all ( well, most of us !) friendly people, irrespective of whether we agree with the current situation or not ! I was talking to loads of people yesterday that I hadn't met before, but I think that was because I was helping the local boozers to make a profit !!

 

Cheers,

[American FLEET FAN No1]

Originally Posted By: Arithon

Originally Posted By: American FLEET FAN No1

I'm still waiting...........After asking it god knows how many times............Who makes up the shorfall in funds if the numbers drop dramatically?

Well it won't be you will it.

The MYFC Funds are extra to the clubs existing funds, not instead of them.

BTW I spoke to some of the Ebbsfleet fans on Saturday at the match, and would like to thank them for their friendly welcome,

No i'm not...........But then again, I'm not saying I will throw "loads of money "at the Club!

[Uncle Urchin]

Originally Posted By: StaffordRangers4Life

The FA have been informed about the takeover and this won't prove a stumbling block, and Conference officials have stated in today's Non League Paper that they see nothing wrong with the move.

crikey...the NLP...it must be true then.... now you haven't answered the question...have the FA sanctioned the takeover..YES or NO wil do nicely thank you

A club being owned by an Industrial or Provident Society, or Trust as they are known, is something that has been around for a while.

or a limited company to put it in its true context with a few fancy words slung in for good measure...

[CSG]

Originally Posted By: Arithon

Originally Posted By: American FLEET FAN No1

I'm still waiting...........After asking it god knows how many times............Who makes up the shorfall in funds if the numbers drop dramatically?

Well it won't be you will it.

The MYFC Funds are extra to the clubs existing funds, not instead of them.

I think you are missing the point, you say they are extra to the existing funds, but what are they going to be used for? If they are used to add to the player budget and players are paid within the new budget what happens when MyFC members do not renew their membership and there is then a shortfall. This is the shortfall that American FLEET FAN No1 is quite rightly concerned about.

[American FLEET FAN No1]

Originally Posted By: Arithon

Originally Posted By: American FLEET FAN No1

I'm still waiting...........After asking it god knows how many times............Who makes up the shorfall in funds if the numbers drop dramatically?

Well it won't be you will it.

The MYFC Funds are extra to the clubs existing funds, not instead of them.



BTW I spoke to some of the Ebbsfleet fans on Saturday at the match, and would like to thank them for their friendly welcome,

PR Speak,no substance!
Thank you CSG!
Don't expect an answer , they haven't given a straight answer to ANY question! As you can see from the PR man, above!
They promised all funds will be made available to Liam Daish!
So over the normal budget(I have heard 1.5 million)they are going to buy new(better) players, hence a higher wage bill!
So lets suppose they spend there money, get a new Team on higher wages, then numbers drop, hence a shortfall of funds, then the Club have to try and pay the team or, let them go, and possibly go back part time!
But they don't want anyone working that out for themself!

Don't be an individual-----------The Wisdom of the Crowd!

[TopherPlus]

AFF, whenever we've tried to answer a question we get smacked down and called spin doctors. Your anti MyFC rants are also spin if you want to be precise.

 

I'm not surprised people aren't going all out to find the answers to your increasingly antagonistic questions.

 

The idea is not to spend huge amounts on new players (the squad will remain substantially the same), instead we can invest in upgrading the facilities, increased promotion or any of the hundreds of ways you can spend $ at a club.

 

I'd bet that even if we all jump off the MyFC wagon in the next couple of years EUFC will have a better financial position than they currently do.

[Cardinal_Sin]

Quote:

PR Speak,no substance!
Thank you CSG!
Don't expect an answer , they haven't given a straight answer to ANY question! As you can see from the PR man, above!
They promised all funds will be made available to Liam Daish!
So over the normal budget(I have heard 1.5 million)they are going to buy new(better) players, hence a higher wage bill!
So lets suppose they spend there money, get a new Team on higher wages, then numbers drop, hence a shortfall of funds, then the Club have to try and pay the team or, let them go, and possibly go back part time!
But they don't want anyone working that out for themself!

Don't be an individual-----------The Wisdom of the Crowd!

When the news first came out about this proposed takeover, loads of new guys wanted to buy shirts and other Ebbfleet memorabillia - They couldn't - There wasn't even a link to the club shop.
I suspect 20 thousand heads working together would quickly realise that a club shop running online 24X7 would raise a hell of a lot more cash than a club shop nobody can even find. - If your negative mind can't get an erudite thought around that one possibility, then you'll end up sleeping a long time.
The club will be better financed and, within the MYFC forums it can easily be gauged what the fall-out rate can be - Budgets will not be forcasted on figures eddying in the wind.
Working on reducing the clubs debt is also being factored in.

Yes - It may well all go tits up - If the debt is reduced and the club has a few better quality players - Wow - You really would be deep in the [****!!****] - Really? Better quality players have a value that can be traded in to cash.

Whatever happens - Ebbsfleet United Football Club will gain.

[the7wolf]

I'd like to think the club won't place itself in a situation where it is reliant on x pounds to sustain itself where x = contributions from MyFC. If they are smart (and everybody on both sides are hoping they are) then the club debt, whatever that amounts to, will be dealt with first before anything. The club needs to be stable and I have zero problems with my 35 quid being used to get the club a good foundation before any such talk of new players comes into it.

 

If everybody from MyFC does bugger off next year (-1 because I can promise you I won't) then the club will hopefully have less, or no, debt and have some funds to buy a few decent players who we can afford to continue paying their wages regardless of any dropping fan base.

[American FLEET FAN No1]

Originally Posted By: TopherPlus

AFF, whenever we've tried to answer a question we get smacked down and called spin doctors. Your anti MyFC rants are also spin if you want to be precise.

I'm not surprised people aren't going all out to find the answers to your increasingly antagonistic questions.

The idea is not to spend huge amounts on new players (the squad will remain substantially the same), instead we can invest in upgrading the facilities, increased promotion or any of the hundreds of ways you can spend $ at a club.I'd bet that even if we all jump off the MyFC wagon in the next couple of years EUFC will have a better financial position than they currently do.

I'll find it later, but I'm sure I read somewhere on your website, it said "The money will be made available to improve the squad", or words to that effect! One of the promises/projects is to take the team to the Premiership(sniggers in my coffee, which I can still smell, thank you!). You won't get there by putting new Duckboards down in the Sniper Toilet, so you don't ruin your Patent Leather Boots!

This just shows again, the lack knowledge from your members!
The Diehards, will tell you, without a substantial improvement in the playing staff, the club won't be going anywhere!
Back to Semi-professional maybe!

[American FLEET FAN No1]

Originally Posted By: TopherPlus

AFF, whenever we've tried to answer a question we get smacked down and called spin doctors. Your anti MyFC rants are also spin if you want to be precise.



I'm not surprised people aren't going all out to find the answers to your increasingly antagonistic questions.
The idea is not to spend huge amounts on new players (the squad will remain substantially the same), instead we can invest in upgrading the facilities, increased promotion or any of the hundreds of ways you can spend $ at a club.

I'd bet that even if we all jump off the MyFC wagon in the next couple of years EUFC will have a better financial position than they currently do.

Good spin there..The question asker is to blame!

My atagonistic questions(as you call them), would probably never have arisen, if some of your numpties(who I firmly place in the second part of my signature!), hadn't invaded this forum and started giving it large, the regular posters, here, would have had a chance to discuss it amongst themselves!

My quetions were not antagonistic, until the clear spin doctors, refused to answer those qustions........I can point you to two or three other posters whose questions haven't been answered!

We don't(and never will), all agree, but we have kept our disagreements as civil as we can! Myfc arrive.....Civil War broke out!
I suppose that is my fault as well?

Like a Circle in a Circle!

[Arithon]

Thanks for promoting me to PR man American FF.

 

However, I am a member only.

I hjave answered lots of questions on this and other forums and have done so directly and honestly. One answer was "don't know" and I then got accused of blind faith, hey ho.

 

What i haven't done is given my opinions based on third hand tittle tattle.

 

i have been to my second Ebbsfleet match on Saturday and next week will be my first home match. It will be a fair trwek but worth it.

 

I don't pretend to know Ebbsfleet and its team well yet but by the end of the season i will be better informed I can promise you. I did meet some Ebbsfleet fans on Saturday, they were friendly, some of the vague threats of verbal aggro didn't happen of course.

 

There are now almost 500 Ebbsfleet fans who are members of MYFC and that continues to grow. That's not PR its fact. It seems a fair number of real fans don't share your cynicism.

 

At some point you may have to reconcile yourself to the fact that maybe, just maybe we are not the bunch of drongo's you think we are.

 

You are right that the budget will need careful consideration though. It would be stupid of us to spend silly money in the first year when the second years income is not guaranteed. i run a small business myself and it always prudent to plan for times of famine during times of bounty.

i am confident that our members have the good sense to realise that and will plan accordingly.

At the moment though membership is growing, but you are right that we should not spend everything assuming continued growth.

 

this is just basic business common sense. Worry not we're not daft.

[David Holden]

Quote:

I hjave answered lots of questions on this and other forums and have done so directly and honestly. One answer was "don't know" and I then got accused of blind faith, hey ho.

 

What i haven't done is given my opinions based on third hand tittle tattle.

 

 

Didn't you say that MyFc had met with the Fleet Trust during the negociations.

[Poultice]

500 Fleeters have joined nickyourclub.com ?

 

I would guess that is more than were in the Trust ?

[FleetFanatic]

Some were too angry to speak, while David Holden, a shareholder who has attended Fleet's Stonebridge Road ground since 1964, was furious enough to end it all.

 

'The whole thing's a joke - 20,000 picking a team? I've been a shareholder seven years but there was absolutely no consultation. That's the directors for you. When they changed the name last summer from Gravesend and Northfleet we got two days' notice. And yes, I am going to stop supporting the club.'

 

Well we've already disagreed on a few issues privately but I really am still neither for it nor against it.....

 

.....and that's the truth.

 

But am I right in thinking the club's debt is probably more than the circa £340,000 declared in 2006?

 

Considering crowds are down and (I suspect) wages up,

how much longer could conference football be sustained?

 

I still feel that the issue of "picking the team" will fall to Liam,

no matter how it is dressed up.

 

Dave, the good times could be just around the corner,

that dream of league football could materialise.

 

Don't walk away now, when the club and even your fellow supporters on the terraces could need you more than ever.

[Uncle Urchin]

Originally Posted By: FleetFanatic

Some were too angry to speak, while David Holden, a shareholder who has attended Fleet's Stonebridge Road ground since 1964, was furious enough to end it all.

'The whole thing's a joke - 20,000 picking a team? I've been a shareholder seven years but there was absolutely no consultation. That's the directors for you. When they changed the name last summer from Gravesend and Northfleet we got two days' notice. And yes, I am going to stop supporting the club.'

Well we've already disagreed on a few issues privately but I really am still neither for it nor against it.....

.....and that's the truth.

But am I right in thinking the club's debt is probably more than the circa £340,000 declared in 2006?

Considering crowds are down and (I suspect) wages up,
how much longer could conference football be sustained?

I still feel that the issue of "picking the team" will fall to Liam,
no matter how it is dressed up.

Dave, the good times could be just around the corner,
that dream of league football could materialise.

Don't walk away now, when the club and even your fellow supporters on the terraces could need you more than ever.

fair enough comments there fleety...I have told david the same privately.....it may well be that the club have little choice but to embrace this deal and if that is the case stalwarts such as david and others are needed MORE now.......

there is no chance of the team vote ever happening and so you lose a few nutters who spit their dummies out because they can't buy adi akinbyi and play him at centre half...who cares....let brooks worry about the legalities of what he has sold to these people and any refunds they may demand......personally I am against the whole concept but I don't count (mind you I am a newly paid up moonie ) this is ebbsfleet and you all must do what is right for the club...as such the club needs its strong and influential people more than ever...

[Arithon]

 

 

 

Didn't you say that MyFc had met with the Fleet Trust during the negociations.

 

Yes and i was mistaken about this and said so. I believe that the truth was that the head of the trust was met and a press statement was made by her. The statement sounded reasonably upbeat. i hope that she was not misquoted (I know what the press can be like).

 

Since then though i understand that a meeting has been held with the full trust and that a statement will be made by them shortly.

 

i understand fully their frustration that they heard nothing until Tuesday. however, this was the same for the MYFC membership at large too.

 

the problem is that when negotiations are held in matters such as these there is usually confidentiality clauses in place and these have to be respected. Believe me it was frustrating for us but probably unavoidable and certainly in my opinion, understandable.

 

I have said before and will again that if i believe the Ebbsfleet fans are against the MYFC takeover then i will not vote to ratify the deal. i resent the "nick your Club" jibes to be honest. i know from 3 months on our forums that the interests of the fans are very much paramount to us. This is not PR speak this is fact. Ebbsfleet fans who have joined MYFC and been active on the forums will be able to confirm that this is indeed the majority view.

[Uncle Urchin]

Originally Posted By: Arithon

i resent the "nick your Club" jibes to be honest.

ha ha...get used to it arithon.....NL is a ruthless playplace and nothing is left unturned.....you need thick skin, a strong sense of humour and the ability to withstand the deepest written cuts and stand firm....you ain't been here three days yet and you 'resent' the jibes....

fck me mate...wait until the conference forum gets onto all of this......

brooks and fiddy and anyone else thats transparent will be researched and researched..every move and decision made will be analysed and dissected.....every loss will be firmly blamed on the moonies and every win a triumph for daish and the diehard fans as he ignores the democratic vote and they applaud him for it...'tis the cold terraced non league way with a bitter humour bred in the austere post war workplace.....

www.fckmyclubup.com will seem mild by comparison...

[Arithon]

Originally Posted By: Uncle Urchin

i resent the "nick your Club" jibes to be honest.

ha ha...get used to it arithon.....NL is a ruthless playplace and nothing is left unturned.....you need thick skin, a strong sense of humour and the ability to withstand the deepest written cuts and stand firm....you ain't been here three days yet and you 'resent' the jibes....

fck me mate...wait until the conference forum gets onto all of this......

Ok fair point and good advice

[DixieDean]

Originally Posted By: Uncle Urchin

NL is a ruthless playplace and nothing is left unturned.....you need thick skin, a strong sense of humour and the ability to withstand the deepest written cuts and stand firm....you ain't been here three days yet and you 'resent' the jibes....

'tis the cold terraced non league way with a bitter humour bred in the austere post war workplace.....

Any of you chaps know where a cove can get a nice glass of Chardonnay before the boot-off?

[Alan ( GNFC )]

Originally Posted By: Poultice

500 Fleeters have joined nickyourclub.com ?

I would guess that is more than were in the Trust ?

As a shareholder I must admit that for the sake of £35 I've 'joined' to try and get a steer about it all.
I will never understand plastics supporting a team with zero allegiance at all, and there is plenty of comment on the MyFC site about not a lot, so to date I'm none the wiser.
The sooner the whole shenanigan blows over the better .