MYFC is a cult ! ! ! !

[TimmyBrianYad]

Im with you on that. I just get this funny feeling that it doesnt seem right. I also feel that we(MyFC) rushed into this(Ebbsfleet) to placate the members who were getting restless for a club.I would be willing to wait for the club that truely need us and want us to be there for them.

[rsheard]

I wonder, though, how many clubs in trouble to THAT degree would pass the debt criterion. I suspect some of the other clubs MyFC talked to were disqualified on that score. But that's only speculation on my part.

[TimmyBrianYad]

Point taken. Good luck tomorrow !!

[Jeff Hamnett TSF]

potential to reach the premiership? so has every village in england in theory. about five in championship in reality

51% of shares = whores

manageable debt talk to northern rock

public transport you're on a winner there from europe

club amenable to approach ( 900 fans or some directors)

 

 

[Jeff Hamnett TSF]

good call on the no or manageable debt but willing to sell a majority share.

so the club would have to be worth a bit less than the 1.5 mill this seems to have been struck at to make current shareholders sell.

[Jeff Hamnett TSF]

still has to do the due diligence. is a conference club who dont own the ground worth 1.5 mill? i dont know...

[doheochai]

Originally Posted By: TimmyBrianYad

On my first point...Ebbsfleet U is not in administration and is not about to go under. Why oh why are we(MyFC) disrupting this club and its supporters?They dont need us!!

on this one - MyFC did not approach EUFC. The directors of EUFC approached MyFC. Brian Kilcullen made it clear in his comments today that he and the other directors were no longer willing to bank-roll ongoing club debts. They searched for alternative investors and decided that an approach to MyFC was the best option available for the club.

Originally Posted By: TimmyBrianYad

Point two...Forming our own club.I was clamoring for this idea from day one.I was continualy shouted down from the MyFC forums.Apparently, a rather stupid thought when its so much easier to just take a club over, Lock,stock and barrel.Who cares what the present fans of said club think?

and as was repeatedly asked when this issue was raised - where?

No matter where MyFC would go to do this it would involve stepping on toes. Whether it was a tier 5 or tier 9 or tier 12 club - there are clubs in every nook and cranny in the country. Is a tier 5 club more important than a tier 12 club?

Originally Posted By: TimmyBrianYad

Point Tree...Supporters of the club MUST have an up or down Vote on takeover.

As has been pointed out earlier - would this include (1) the shareholders (2) the season ticket holders (3) those who go to every game but don't have a season ticket (4) those who go to home and away games (5) those who go to just home games (6) those who go to most/some/a few games each season. (7) those who are committed EUFC fans but can't go to any games for what ever reason (8)those who attended the last game (or the next one). I am not trying to be funny - but you get the picture. I would hope we get some form of consensus over the next 6-8 weeks and move forward from there - if not we'll see what happens then.

Originally Posted By: TimmyBrianYad

Ebbsfleet came out of the blue. I dont recall seeing them listed in "Member picks".At all.

Again something that has been pointed out - very few votes seperated the clubs placed in third and 50th or 60th place. We only saw the top 15 - so any club below that would have been out of the blue - and remember members could change their votes as often as they liked and many did. Coupled with this is the fact that nine clubs approached MyFC and MyFC approached eight others - many were ruled out for various reasons and an agreement was reached between EUFC and MyFC.

Originally Posted By: TimmyBrianYad

Who are the other clubs who approached us? A list please for a vote.

Halifax was one - confidentiality agreements prohibit disclosure of the others (and you know that). If MyFC was to disclose the other clubs it would leave MyFC open to legal action. As for a vote - couldn't happen for the same reason - indeed there wasn't actually supposed to be a vote on the takeover at all as MyFC membership doesn't begin until the club is purchased (again you should have read the stuff on the website before you joined).

Originally Posted By: TimmyBrianYad

basically i want the EUFC fans to have the oppurtunity to vote on this takeover first and any other club we court with before we go any further.
Signed,frustrated MyFC Member.

Sorry about your frustration - see above.

[rsheard]

Where did the 1.5 million figure come from? I don't think anyone has announced the sales price. The only number I've seen is the rough estimate of membership fees raised so far...700,000. But the announcement doesn't say that was the purchase price for 51%.

[doheochai]

Originally Posted By: thespursfan

still has to do the due diligence. is a conference club who dont own the ground worth 1.5 mill? i dont know...

I don't know either - but then again we don't know if the agreement is valuing the club at £1.5million - this is a figure you have calculated.

[Jeff Hamnett TSF]

here we go! read the small print you mugs! ive got your money

[Jeff Hamnett TSF]

the 1.5 mill comes from 20 000 members paying 35 pounds for 51 percent of the club as reported in uk i did the math on another thread sorry!

[rsheard]

Originally Posted By: thespursfan

the 1.5 mill comes from 20 000 members paying 35 pounds for 51 percent of the club as reported in uk i did the math on another thread sorry!

The math's not a problem, but the facts aren't right. The announcement didn't specify the purchase price or the percentage of shares bought. The 51% was our minimum goal. We don't know how much has actually been purchased. And we don't know how much money MyFC between the membership fees and the EA Sports sponsorship.

All we've learned is that a controlling interest was agreed upon. The details won't come out until after the deal is approved and signed.

[Jeff Hamnett TSF]

you may be right i am just taking the info off the BBC and they could well be wrong again, bl00dy fools.

[rsheard]

Originally Posted By: thespursfan

you may be right i am just taking the info off the BBC and they could well be wrong again, bl00dy fools.

That's probably what happened. They confused some of the numbers from different stories. Not surprised. Half the media coverage has had the website address wrong from the start. Oh well.

[TimmyBrianYad]

Points answered,thank you. Frustration releived. On point three though.... Surely EUFC have a list of their shareholders and Season Tix holders that would be more than happy to Vote on this.

 

And just my personal observations here ...Who ever is in command of Public Relations at MyFC should be Sacked/canned/fired.

The ground work for the announcement and its after affect was poorly executed.

1.Will Brookes should have met/meet with EUFC shareholders/Season tix holders to answere questions they may have.

2.Those who work for EUFC, Im sure they have worries.

The cameraman who films for the team was on these forums yesterday and he seemed rather concerned about his future.

3.We should have made repeated request on our forums about the stupidness of going on takeover clubs forums.

You should have seen it, disgraceful.

4.Lets remember that we are dealing with people here.People with much invested ( Emotions,community and some livelihoods).

Communication and a little less arogance is needed IMHO.

[Live4ever]

To the existing fans we are a cult by definition, yes.

 

"Cult roughly refers to a cohesive social group devoted to beliefs or practices that the surrounding culture considers outside the mainstream, with a notably positive or negative popular perception."

 

Yes that was from Wikipedia!

 

[Jeff Hamnett TSF]

with all this cash sploshing around you guys need a max clifford to get your message across.

 

personally I wish you all well but I think you would have more fun starting further down the leagues.

 

i know a little (very little) about football in england and Im not an ebbsfleet fan so if any of you would like an unbiased view send me a pm and ill try to to answer.

 

main thing try to enjoy the wins and accept the defeats

 

 

have fun

[rsheard]

Originally Posted By: thespursfan

main thing try to enjoy the wins and accept the defeats

Defeats? I want my 35 pounds back.

[FleetFanatic]

Originally Posted By: thespursfan

i know a little (very little) about football in england

hence being a spurs fan eh?

[Leroix]

I am a MyFC member.

I had voted for a different team before the announcement, but changed my vote after learning more about the team.

I assure you that I am not a member of a cult.

I was not duped into believing that my vote will change the club.

My vote will usually be "Liam's Choice", or the like.

I understand that my money is lost forever for the team to do with as it wishes.

I joined with the ambition of watching a team with a financial injection ascend through the tables as I watch its games with great interest and wear a replica shirt with pride.

I believe that the existing board of EUFC will apply these additional funds with prudence.

I have faith that the negativity of a few will not spoil the success of this venture.

I appreciate all members of all involved associations that truly wish success for the team.

I believe that chat rooms and web threads are a magnet for those that do not play well with others, and in reality, the negative posts are not representative of the true pool of EUFC.

I payed for potential promotion.

HERE'S TO A GREAT SEASON!!