The Morning After The Night Before

[Del_Boy]

So, how is everybody feeling now the dust has settled down a bit? Its nice to see so many positive comments on the MyFC forums from newly joined Fleet Fans - one said it was like winning the lottery!

 

Now the news has sunk in, what do the Fleet fans who were annoyed and concerned yesterday feel about it today? Is there, however small, a tingle of anticipation and excitment at the thought of new players and a push for promotion due to the cash injection (and enthusiasm) from MyFC?

[Greg_Dyke]

If I were a Fleet fan, i'd still be very concerned.....

 

However, the dilligence process still has to take place, and I'd hope all Fleet Season ticket holders and Trust members would be consulted in this time, for their views...

 

One thing occurred to me last night, was the position of the staff of the club...players, secretarial, etc

 

How would all their contracts be sorted out ?

 

Their wages, bonuses and targets ?

 

Would this be "voted" on too ?

 

The problem, as I see it, with 20,000 voting on issues, is the loss of the human factor....the new owners would be treating the club, like a plaything, with little regard to peoples livelihoods...

 

The phrase "designed by committee" is usually a bad thing....but a committee of 20,000 !

[FleetFanatic]

Originally Posted By: Del_Boy

So, how is everybody feeling now the dust has settled down a bit? Its nice to see so many positive comments on the MyFC forums from newly joined Fleet Fans - one said it was like winning the lottery!

Now the news has sunk in, what do the Fleet fans who were annoyed and concerned yesterday feel about it today? Is there, however small, a tingle of anticipation and excitment at the thought of new players and a push for promotion due to the cash injection (and enthusiasm) from MyFC?

One day and you think the dust has settled?

[Jeff]

I think that this is truly awful.

Makes a mockery of the club I have supported since I was six years old.

 

If any internet Championship Manager playing geek from Barnsley nicks any of the seats where we sit at the next home game, I will have no hesitation in kicking right off.

 

Am stuck abroad on a work trip this week and could do without hearing about all this. Would rather be at home in order to get my head round it.

 

It was the top story on BBC World Sport yesterday. I nearly choked on my baklava when I saw it. Was really shocked to see Luke Moore (he's a striker new 'fans' and not the lad from Villa) scoring a goal when sat in the hotel.

 

The name change was bad enough but this is pure madness for the club in my opinion.

 

It's one thing selling out to a Russian Oligarch but to 35,000 fans of other clubs is mind boggling weird.

 

For example, what if a load of Oxford fans try to undermine team selection via the MFC site before the match on Saturday?

 

I need to get onto their website and see exactly how this works as to be honest, I have no idea.

 

It's ripped any creditability that the club had.

 

Not sure about the avatar Darren, stay positive. It may work but I doubt it.

 

 

[Del_Boy]

Originally Posted By: FleetFanatic

One day and you think the dust has settled?

Well, I did say 'a bit'...point taken though.

I guess what I was trying to say is, this is the situation we find ourselves in, and we have a great chance to come together and make it work. I hope that fans can concentrate on the positive aspects of this move, the annual cash injection of £700k (possibly much more), the increased revenue from shop/ground, the increased publicity, the World Wide recognition!!

If it was my club I'd be thrilled !

[doheochai]

Originally Posted By: Greg_Dyke

One thing occurred to me last night, was the position of the staff of the club...players, secretarial, etc

How would all their contracts be sorted out ?

Their wages, bonuses and targets ?

Would this be "voted" on too ?

All current staff are being retained. I would expect that, as now, a budget for administration of the club would be set and the chief administrative officer would work within that budget. The only difference is that a vote would be taken on what the budget should be by the members of MyFC rather than just the board.

All of these things are open for discussion - if you have a suggestion for changing things - give an outline. Even better, join MyFC outline your proposal and use your vote.

Originally Posted By: Greg_Dyke

The problem, as I see it, with 20,000 voting on issues, is the loss of the human factor....the new owners would be treating the club, like a plaything, with little regard to peoples livelihoods...

In fact this is one of the main areas of discussion on the MyFC forum. The fact that decisions will affect real people's lives is something that we are very well aware of. And decisions will be taken in the light of this.

[Del_Boy]

Originally Posted By: Jeff

For example, what if a load of Oxford fans try to undermine team selection via the MFC site before the match on Saturday?

Couldn't happen. It would mean that 20,000 of them would have to join up to get a majority vote. Not only would they have just given their opposition £700,000 more money, but I think it would soon become obvious that there was foul play afoot and the manager would be empowered to over rule.

The concept hasn't been thought out on the back of a cigarrette packet - the people in charge know what they are doing.

Bottom line is, MyFC, the Ltd company and the new trust of enthusiastic members, want nothing less than success and prosperity for Fleet. It is in everybody's interests.

We're not 'new fans' - you are the fans, but together we can make a difference. that's all we want to do, for the good of your club, sure, but also for the good of football overall.

[doheochai]

Originally Posted By: Jeff

For example, what if a load of Oxford fans try to undermine team selection via the MFC site before the match on Saturday?

Well, if 5,000 signed up they would still get outvoted and EUFC would be £140,000 better off.

Originally Posted By: Jeff

I need to get onto their website and see exactly how this works as to be honest, I have no idea.

more than welcome and MyFC will try and answer any questions you have.

[chris blanc]

When asked on talk sport whether players wages would be voted on, the guy from myfc answered yes. I guess this will make all the players salaries public to anyone who fancies paying £35. They must be over the moon

[Stu M]

Originally Posted By: Del_Boy

If it was my club I'd be thrilled !

I thought we were your club? Or have you got another one somewhere? Which one do you like best?

It's all very confusing for us little old non-leaguers.

[Del_Boy]

Originally Posted By: Stu M

Originally Posted By: Del_Boy

If it was my club I'd be thrilled !

I thought we were your club? Or have you got another one somewhere? Which one do you like best?

It's all very confusing for us little old non-leaguers.

Like I said above, we are not the fans, you are. We are enthusiastic lovers of football who want the best for your club and for football. MyFC will become the new owner - and all new owners want success. I don't see any conflict there.

[Cardinal_Sin]

Originally Posted By: Del_Boy

Originally Posted By: FleetFanatic

One day and you think the dust has settled?

Well, I did say 'a bit'...point taken though.

I guess what I was trying to say is, this is the situation we find ourselves in, and we have a great chance to come together and make it work. I hope that fans can concentrate on the positive aspects of this move, the annual cash injection of £700k (possibly much more), the increased revenue from shop/ground, the increased publicity, the World Wide recognition!!

If it was my club I'd be thrilled !

MYFC members know the benefits of this marriage as we have had a few weeks looking ar this. Long term Ebbsfleet supporters will currently feel we have just walked into their front rooms and made ourselves at home.
Ebbsfleet shareholders still have the final say about this deal and if the fans voice their collective opinion, they may well get the vote they want (which would be ironic, in a way as the MYFC trust is set up in exactly the same way of collective voting)!!
My hope is this - The genuine Ebbsfleet supporter sees MYFC exactly as it is, a trust - We are not genuine football club "Owners/shareholders" as we have no cash value to gain - The football club MYFC gives its cash too benefits. The club's coach benefits with more cash for improving the team - The ground benefits with more cash for better fascilities, and so on.
Yes, it's different - Yes, it's unique - Yes - It can work.

[Mackster]

Originally Posted By: Cardinal_Sin

Originally Posted By: Del_Boy

One day and you think the dust has settled?

MYFC members know the benefits of this marriage as we have had a few weeks looking ar this. Long term Ebbsfleet supporters will currently feel we have just walked into their front rooms and made ourselves at home.
Ebbsfleet shareholders still have the final say about this deal and if the fans voice their collective opinion, they may well get the vote they want (which would be ironic, in a way as the MYFC trust is set up in exactly the same way of collective voting)!!
My hope is this - The genuine Ebbsfleet supporter sees MYFC exactly as it is, a trust - We are not genuine football club "Owners/shareholders" as we have no cash value to gain - The football club MYFC gives its cash too benefits. The club's coach benefits with more cash for improving the team - The ground benefits with more cash for better fascilities, and so on.
Yes, it's different - Yes, it's unique - Yes - It can work.

From what I understand the majority shareholders will have already approved this and as far as the fans collective opinion is concerned you really couldn't give a toss. They haven't been consulted and they won't be consulted. If they had a say and turned MyFc down it would ruin your little game, so why bother asking them.

If you are so keen are Ebbsfleet's welfare why don't you put your money in the club's existing Trust. I guess because that wouldn't be as much fun?

[Greg_Dyke]

Originally Posted By: doheochai

All of these things are open for discussion - if you have a suggestion for changing things - give an outline. Even better, join MyFC outline your proposal and use your vote.

I do not support Ebbsfleet

I'll keep supporting my club, the club I have a season ticket for, and follow home and away....thanks anyway...

[gaspode]

To answer the initial question, I loved the idea when I heard it and joined myfc immediately. I have since read all of the postings and seen all of the concerns from other long standing fans. The debate has been interesting and many good points have been put for both sides.

 

Having had a night to sleep on it all I can now conclude that I still love the idea.

 

 

[Del_Boy]

gaspode - great avatar - Mr Jolly Lives Nextdoor if I am not mistaken !

[gaspode]

Oh yes

 

Funniest film ever

[Cardinal_Sin]

Originally Posted By: Mackster

Originally Posted By: Cardinal_Sin

Originally Posted By: Del_Boy

One day and you think the dust has settled?

MYFC members know the benefits of this marriage as we have had a few weeks looking ar this. Long term Ebbsfleet supporters will currently feel we have just walked into their front rooms and made ourselves at home.
Ebbsfleet shareholders still have the final say about this deal and if the fans voice their collective opinion, they may well get the vote they want (which would be ironic, in a way as the MYFC trust is set up in exactly the same way of collective voting)!!
My hope is this - The genuine Ebbsfleet supporter sees MYFC exactly as it is, a trust - We are not genuine football club "Owners/shareholders" as we have no cash value to gain - The football club MYFC gives its cash too benefits. The club's coach benefits with more cash for improving the team - The ground benefits with more cash for better fascilities, and so on.
Yes, it's different - Yes, it's unique - Yes - It can work.

From what I understand the majority shareholders will have already approved this and as far as the fans collective opinion is concerned you really couldn't give a toss. They haven't been consulted and they won't be consulted. If they had a say and turned MyFc down it would ruin your little game, so why bother asking them.

If you are so keen are Ebbsfleet's welfare why don't you put your money in the club's existing Trust. I guess because that wouldn't be as much fun?

Obviously, not everyone is going to be happy if the take-over goes ahead. I can understand that.
I entered into this as a football supporter. Nothing more. Nothing less. If 20 thousand supporters (and this number will increase) can form a trust and give one club a superior advantage over others by each donating a minimum 35 pounds a year to help give that team full league status, then the benefit to you is that you get to watch better quality football and oposition.
Incidentally, the last league team I played for, Torquay, who are now in the same league as Ebbsfleet, will most likely suffer another year in this league because of this cash injection to your club - That was the club I voted for - MYFC members are behind the Ebbsfleet move. I think it is a fantastic opportunty for your club to go forward.

[Dewsbury SAFC]

Originally Posted By: Cardinal_Sin

Obviously, not everyone is going to be happy if the take-over goes ahead. I can understand that.
I entered into this as a football supporter. Nothing more. Nothing less. If 20 thousand supporters (and this number will increase) can form a trust and give one club a superior advantage over others by each donating a minimum 35 pounds a year to help give that team full league status, then the benefit to you is that you get to watch better quality football and oposition.
Incidentally, the last league team I played for, Torquay, who are now in the same league as Ebbsfleet, will most likely suffer another year in this league because of this cash injection to your club - That was the club I voted for - MYFC members are behind the Ebbsfleet move. I think it is a fantastic opportunty for your club to go forward.

Congratulations. You have just summed up why this scheme is detrimental to the long term future of sustainable football.

[Stu M]

Reminds me of the Stafford fan who said he'd do his best to pick the best team for Ebbsfleet to win, but hoped Stafford would rise to it and beat the Fleet... unless the Fleet were near the play-offs in which case he'd want the Fleet to win.

 

What the f---? Stark raving loony.