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[PatMan]

Originally Posted By: rsheard

Normal chairmen and boards? The kind that come in, make a fast profit, and then walk away leaving the entire club screwed over? Normal chairmen that invite you into the decision making process and let you have a real say in how your club is run?

You really believe that?
That saying about a fool and his money has never been more apt after today!

[AS Brewer]

No, Normal cahairman and boards that actually develop a love for the club they have taken over. normal chairman that even thought they may know nothing about the club have respect for football and dont just want to play football manager with a real club (excluding Connett ofcourse, of course thats my opinion)

 

my general concern is that this silly idea will take a football club which is in our league and kill it off leaving the fans to pick up the pieces through their supporters trust (thank god ebbsfleet already have one set up)

 

My other aim tonight is to show the Concerned ebbsfleet fans that they are not the only ones concerned about their club and that the clubs around them in their league, who are technically rival teams, are concerned too. As already shown by a halifax fan in another thread. i'd say check the other blue square premier clubs forums, they all seem pretty concerned too and the general feel is that ebbsfleet are doomed and other fans feel sorry for the ebbsfleet fans.

[Aftershow]

Originally Posted By: AS Brewer

My other aim tonight is to show the Concerned ebbsfleet fans that they are not the only ones concerned about their club and that the clubs around them in their league, who are technically rival teams, are concerned too. As already shown by a halifax fan in another thread. i'd say check the other blue square premier clubs forums, they all seem pretty concerned too and the general feel is that ebbsfleet are doomed and other fans feel sorry for the ebbsfleet fans.

Likewise - i'm a supporter of a Unibond team with a real Supporters Trust, like many others around the country. MyFC is not a proper Supporters Trust, as i've seen claimed in numerous places today

[Kentish Expat]

You hit the nail on the head there - developing a love.

 

I would be deeply suspicious.

 

FYI Halifax announced that they approached MyFC to avoid a winding-up order.

 

I sincerely hope that lunatic decisions will not be taken, and that the club will not be allowed to rack up huge debts that, should a parting of the ways occur in the future (far future I hope), will threaten the existence of a proud club.

[doheochai]

Originally Posted By: Kentish Expat

I sincerely hope that lunatic decisions will not be taken, and that the club will not be allowed to rack up huge debts that, should a parting of the ways occur in the future (far future I hope), will threaten the existence of a proud club.

Cannot happen - the rules of MyFC prohibit MyFC engaging in any activity that would place the club at financial risk. In other words it will have to be run on a break even basis.

[Mackster]

I'm an Exeter fan based in Kent and I'm concerned to see Gravesend sold down the river.

 

Most clubs at this level have had their own trauma's to contend with, but this is something completely different...

 

We have our own thread on it:

http://www.exeweb.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18677

[doheochai]

Originally Posted By: Aftershow

Likewise - i'm a supporter of a Unibond team with a real Supporters Trust, like many others around the country. MyFC is not a proper Supporters Trust, as i've seen claimed in numerous places today

MyFC is not a 'proper' supporters trust - and I don't think a single MyFC member ever claimed it was. MyFC is a provident society where people pay a yearly membership fee. MyFC is made up of football fans from all over the world. The main intention behind MyFC is to provide an alternative mode of ownership to the Ridsdales, Bates, Noades, Haslams, Chelski's etc. One where football fans have ownership rather than multi-millionaires. One where decisions are taken in the best interests of the club and not to line someones pocket.

[rsheard]

But if the idea is so outlandishly ridiculous and addle-brained as you claim, why then did 9 football professionals, the very professionals you believe SHOULD be running the club, come to MyFC to negotiate a purchase of their clubs?

 

Either they're not the altruistic football champions you suggest, or they were simply hoping to get out while the getting out was good, or just possibly, perhaps, maybe, they see something positive in the MyFC idea that you refuse to recognize.

 

You can't have it both ways. Either we're total idiots and the real football world would have nothing to do with us, which doesn't mesh with the facts in recent months. Or we offer a new possibility for taking a club the size of EUFC and pushing it to the next level. If you trust the professionals' opinions so highly, they're telling you it's the latter.

[Halifax Town Fan]

Originally Posted By: Kentish Expat

FYI Halifax announced that they approached MyFC to avoid a winding-up order.

Actually, our ex-chairman approached MFC in an attempt to hurry potential investors through the due diligence process. There was never any real danger of the winding-up order coming into force.

[johnboy28]

well says rsheard

[Halifax Town Fan]

Originally Posted By: doheochai

Cannot happen - the rules of MyFC prohibit MyFC engaging in any activity that would place the club at financial risk. In other words it will have to be run on a break even basis.

Not always possible in football, however good one's intentions might be.

[Kentish Expat]

Originally Posted By: Halifax Town Fan

Originally Posted By: Kentish Expat

FYI Halifax announced that they approached MyFC to avoid a winding-up order.

Actually, our ex-chairman approached MFC in an attempt to hurry potential investors through the due diligence process. There was never any real danger of the winding-up order coming into force.

Thank you for correcting me.

[rsheard]

Originally Posted By: Halifax Town Fan

Originally Posted By: Kentish Expat

FYI Halifax announced that they approached MyFC to avoid a winding-up order.

Actually, our ex-chairman approached MFC in an attempt to hurry potential investors through the due diligence process. There was never any real danger of the winding-up order coming into force.

That still doesn't explain the other seven unidentified clubs also approaching MyFC for negotiations. They weren't all trying to force another buyer's hand as looks to have been the case with Halifax.

[Aftershow]

Originally Posted By: doheochai

MyFC is not a 'proper' supporters trust - and I don't think a single MyFC member ever claimed it was. MyFC is a provident society where people pay a yearly membership fee. MyFC is made up of football fans from all over the world. The main intention behind MyFC is to provide an alternative mode of ownership to the Ridsdales, Bates, Noades, Haslams, Chelski's etc. One where football fans have ownership rather than multi-millionaires. One where decisions are taken in the best interests of the club and not to line someones pocket.

Interesting that your website refers to "Trust" on a number of occasions. I'm aware of the ins and outs of an IPS.

MyFC is no better than any of those names you mention. If you were really bothered about making a change, you'd have started a club from scratch, not pillage somebody elses club. You're doing exactly the same as what Winkelman and co did - buying a league position

[Kentish Expat]

Pillaging is a strange word to use - that would imply that the aim is to make off with the wealth of the club as part of some asset-stripping exercise.

 

As an IPS if that were done the only things to benefit would be charity. Members cannot benefit from selling any club assets - not that we would want to anyway. I hope to have become a proper fan over the course of time so that I can follow EUFC up the leagues and watch Southampton as they pass us on the way down

[doheochai]

Originally Posted By: Halifax Town Fan

Actually, our ex-chairman approached MFC in an attempt to hurry potential investors through the due diligence process. There was never any real danger of the winding-up order coming into force.

If you read the report by Shaymandownsouth (who was involved in the discussions) in the Halifax fanzine you will see that the possibility of a takeover of Halifax Town by MyFC was actually an awful lot closer than anyone thought at the time. The takeover of Halifax had stalled for over a year (and still isn't complete from what I understand) - yes the approach by Ralph to MyFC may have kick-started the process again - but the facts suggest that there was a lot more going on than trying to force the hand of the existing consortium.

[rsheard]

When the seller comes to the buyer and asks him to buy, that's pillaging now? I'm fascinated by the number of posters on these boards tonight that are neither MyFC members nor supporters of EUFC. I'm sure, of course, you just have the club's best interests at heart. It couldn't be that you just enjoy stirring the pot. In fact, most of the wildly inflammatory posts tonight have been from non-EUFC supporters and MyFC imposters (or we hope to the heavens they're imposters).

 

If we removed the irritants, perhaps the two groups could actually have a useful discussion.

[Aftershow]

Originally Posted By: rsheard

It couldn't be that you just enjoy stirring the pot.

Wrong, yet again.

I have an active interest in this from my own experiences as a football supporter. Why on earth would I have any desire to stir the pot on this if I wasn't actually interested in it?

Football fans across the country, not to mentions supporters organisations are very concerned about what has happened today. Given your merry band's lack of regard for how G&NFC fans feel, I don't imagine that will bother you.

If my words on here lead you to call me an irritant, then i'm glad, as I wouldn't want you to skip along thinking that all football fans think you should be allowed to get away with what you're doing without any protest

You are Winkelman mark 2

[Kentish Expat]

It bothers me.

 

I hope that MyFc members will think on this before they post anything on these boards.

 

If you type something, read it a couple of times. If there is anything that you read that you think might cause misunderstanding or upset, do me a favour and delete it

[Mackster]

I may be naive in thinking that the board are the custodian's of the club, but this "you approached us" is certainly not representative of the supporters of Gravesend who have never been consulted about MyFC.

 

If all the genuine supporters had a vote and MyFc was approved, fair enough, but it appears that virtually all genuine supporters are against it. So why doesn't MyFc have a rethink and come back and say the takeover should only go ahead if approved by a majority of Gravesend supporters.

 

Surely for an organisation that is against the over-commercialisation of football, the Ridsdale's and is for a new democratic approach to football you owe them this.

 

As an irritant from a rival club (Exeter), I feel i have more reason to be on here than you. I've put money into the club through the gate, bought programmes and burgers, I've even been to a few games at Stonebridge when Exeter are not playing. Therefore I've spent more than the £35 you've put in. Hope to see you at the Ramsgate game next week