Good move? Vote here.

[kaizen]

Sack the board!!

 

;-)

[toddybad]

I would be perfectly happy to vote yes on a mYfC motion to give all season ticket holders/supporters trust members membership to MyFC.

 

One thing is though, how long would this go on for? I mean, I have paid £35 - only a small sum I know but over the years vthis wil mount up. After, say, 10 years will I qualify as a Ebbsfleet fan, and if I do should youy still get free membership whilst I pay?

 

I think 1 years free membership as a gesture of goodwill would be effective but we would have to consider how we could prolong this if at all.

[PatMan]

Originally Posted By: toddybad

I would be perfectly happy to vote yes on a mYfC motion to give all season ticket holders/supporters trust members membership to MyFC.

One thing is though, how long would this go on for? I mean, I have paid £35 - only a small sum I know but over the years vthis wil mount up. After, say, 10 years will I qualify as a Ebbsfleet fan, and if I do should youy still get free membership whilst I pay?

I think 1 years free membership as a gesture of goodwill would be effective but we would have to consider how we could prolong this if at all.

How many season tickets do you think £35 will get you? 10 years of your £35 wouldnt buy you 2 season tickets! Thats goodwill is it?

[Slartibartfast]

You could always buy a season ticket.

 

My season ticket, funnily enough, only lasts for this season so the free membership would also only last for one season. When I fork out for next seasons ticket then you could provide another free membership for that season. I reckon that after say 10 years I will have paid an awful lot more than you.

 

All of that is blindingly obvious of course but I actually don't think anyone should receive free membership, as a supporter of the Fleet for 37 years and a fan who pays for season tickets for myself and both of my children each year and pays for my son to sponsor one of the players kit I would rather pay my own way thank you.

 

If this thing is going to work it needs as many people as possible to cough up their £35:00.

 

 

[toddybad]

Patman - I see what you are getting at but MyFC will come up with a solution that fits both sides of the argument.

 

Bear in mind that behind this argument is the fact that if a one man band turned up and purchased the club you'd get NO say, NO conversation about having a say, and probably higher ticket prices.

 

At least with MyFC we are open to suggestion and it may well be season ticket holders get free membeship - that has been discussed many times and is bound to be discussed again.

 

You can be sure that we wil consider any ideas the fans have but we also have to be realistic - we are bringin maybe £1m per year to the party. If we want this cash to go to the club there are limits to what we can give up.

[PatMan]

Originally Posted By: toddybad

Patman - I see what you are getting at but MyFC will come up with a solution that fits both sides of the argument.

Bear in mind that behind this argument is the fact that if a one man band turned up and purchased the club you'd get NO say, NO conversation about having a say, and probably higher ticket prices.

At least with MyFC we are open to suggestion and it may well be season ticket holders get free membeship - that has been discussed many times and is bound to be discussed again.

You can be sure that we wil consider any ideas the fans have but we also have to be realistic - we are bringin maybe £1m per year to the party. If we want this cash to go to the club there are limits to what we can give up.

I think this is where MyFC are causing problems - a lot of questions that have been raised are answered with "MyFC will look into that", or "We can decide on that later".

It looks like its only half been thought out - MyFC must have suspected that whatever club they rolled up at would want questions answering. The fact these cannot be answered just leaves Fleet fans wondering what kind of tin-pot organisation they are deal;ing with

[rsheard]

I agree with Slarti...again. The membership price and the ticket prices are better left separate. I don't expect a discount on tickets or merchandise because I chose to be a MyFC member. The point of MyFC is to help the club. Discounts on membership and tickets run counter to that goal.

 

Now, that said, if it's feasible and fiscally responsible to lower ticket prices for all fans as a means of filling the ground, I'm all for it. I'd rather see the ground full and have the club make a little less per ticket. It's often made up in concessions and merchandise sales, plus a full ground improves the whole experience. Just my two cents' worth.

[Slartibartfast]

Originally Posted By: rsheard

Now, that said, if it's feasible and fiscally responsible to lower ticket prices for all fans as a means of filling the ground, I'm all for it. I'd rather see the ground full and have the club make a little less per ticket. It's often made up in concessions and merchandise sales, plus a full ground improves the whole experience. Just my two cents' worth.

Two cents a ticket eh?

Its a crazy idea but it just might work.

[toddybad]

rsheard probably has hit the nail on the head - the thing is, until we actually purchase the club we won't be able to make any changes and so there won't be any votes (so you know the voting system isnt live yet - the club and MyFC need to be integrated before the whole kaboodle starts so nothing wil change at first apart from liam daish wil have some money to spend).

 

If you ask questions that relate to the way MyFC is run then we can answer you but in terms of what will you do if x or y happen we can't because 1- it hasn't, and 2- we would need to have a vote so it's pure guesswork.

 

I realise this might not be that helpful to you, and I have seen plenty of jokes about us having to go and vote on whether to fix kettles etc that it seems infuriating but really its simple - what could possibly happen that we wouldn't have time to vote? Things that need ionstant decisions (like substitutions or the fine details of player purchases) will be dealt with by Liam Daish and the club board - we will have overall control but will be exercising it in a manner that allows internal club stuff to stay internal until things have happened - ie votes will be caried out but the results kept secret

[toddybad]

* until they have been carried through

[urchinboy2]

for me this is going to be a terrible move, there will be arguments between the 'voting' for players , and i very much expect to see a club in turmoil very soon ..

[TimmyBrianYad]

Without an up or down vote from the EUFC supporters on this takeover, BEFORE the takeover is complete, i will vote NO on MyFC when it comes for members vote.

[Slartibartfast]

Originally Posted By: urchinboy2

for me this is going to be a terrible move, there will be arguments between the 'voting' for players , and i very much expect to see a club in turmoil very soon ..

Why are Hornchurch going to be in turmoil?

[FleetingFan]

Interesting thread, paid up MyFC member & keen follower of Blue Square Football (Made a fair bit of doh @ the bookies).

 

Hopefully the millitary style coup will gradually sit well with the existing (or should aye say true & loyal) fans and the benefit of vastly increased financing will see Ebbsfleet scale new heights.

 

To be honest it was always going to be obv that the existing fan base were going to be apprehensive if not appaled at the idea and concept and of that there should have been no doubt.

 

However, aye come in peace, aye hope to help and aye for sure am going to enjoy following Ebbsfleet Utd aye fink !

[barred]

I think beer at a penny a pint is a damn good idea!

[Glover]

This is the kind of thing that supporter power can stop - Chairman and directors on the fiddle and no one to stop them!

 

The Football Association has issued more than 50 charges in connection with alleged breaches of rules at Luton Town, after an extensive investigation.

The charges relate to player transfers and contract renegotiations between July 2004 and February 2007.

 

The club, former chairman Bill Tomlins, ex-finance director Derek Peter and current directors John Mitchell and Richard Bagehot have been charged.

 

Six licensed players' agents have also been charged.

 

The charges are as follows:

 

 

Luton Town have 17 charges, relating to payments to agents for nine specific player negotiations which were allegedly made through the club's holding company Jayten (also known as J10) Stadium Limited, rather than through the club as required by FA rules.

The Hatters have also been charged with provision of misleading information to the FA, not holding representation contracts with the relevant agents for the above negotiations, and dealing with unlicensed agents (both through Jayten and directly).

Former chairman Bill Tomlins has been handed 15 charges. It is alleged that he was directly involved in 19 of the rule breaches listed above (except negotiations with two unlicensed agents which were not conducted through Jayten).

Former finance director Derek Peter is alleged to have approved payments made by Jayten in relation to the nine player negotiations.

Current directors John Mitchell and Richard Bagehot are charged with failing to report the alleged rule breaches when they became aware of them.

Licensed players' agents Sky Andrew, Mike Berry, Mark Curtis, Stephen Denos, David Manasseh and Andrew Mills are each charged with failing to ensure that payments to them were made and disclosed through the proper channels, and failing to enter into representation contracts with the club for specific services rendered in relation to to above negotiations.

 

[Glover]

I see Cronin kept a clean sheet in Finland , nice one Lance

[Hirsty]

I sincerely hope that you are not casting that comment at the Board of EUFC ? If you are then retract it !

 

I may not agree with the Board on their decision in this instance, but have no qualms about their integrity.

 

'Kin £35 boys, think they rule the world ! Which one are you Bush or Blair ? Thanks for letting me live on your planet !!

 

P*ss & wind !

 

 

[Glover]

No its about the Luton board but its what can happen when you have to trust a couple of indiviuals with all the money.

Why do you keep on with this holier than thou attitude , where did i mention ruling the world - in any of my posts you reaaly need to get back down to earth , i see you didnt comment on the other important post that Cronin had a good game for England or are you too full of trying to shoot people down to care

[Uncle Urchin]

Originally Posted By: Slartibartfast

Originally Posted By: urchinboy2

for me this is going to be a terrible move, there will be arguments between the 'voting' for players , and i very much expect to see a club in turmoil very soon ..

Why are Hornchurch going to be in turmoil?

ha ha...keep dangling the bait fartarse and I'll keep biting....the only turmoil we have is whether to put 4000 seats in the new stadium at st marys lane or 2000 now and 2000 should we ever reach the connie proppa...we thought of fcknmyclubup.com but realised that we needed 4 million to pay for the new site and their paltry 700k was no use...so we sent them over to a smaller club with a much greater need on the estuary....