20000 v 1000

[FleetFanatic]

Originally Posted By: thegaffer

As if i really care, I follow chelsea, this is just a laugh, so chill out. Besides, its only £35

Jesus, as if you dont all support a proper club anyway

One day, Chelsea will go bust.

Remind me to laugh.

[BustaGut]

Originally Posted By: FleetFanatic

Originally Posted By: thegaffer

As if i really care, I follow chelsea, this is just a laugh, so chill out. Besides, its only £35

Jesus, as if you dont all support a proper club anyway

One day, Chelsea will go bust.

Remind me to laugh.

That will be ok MyFC will buy them out lol

[Unrecognized Genius]

Originally Posted By: Kentish Expat

I have registered as I would like to disassociate myself from all the stupidity that has been posted on this thread.

I was born and raised in Kent. I now live 200 miles away. I did not sign up to MyFC for an ego trip - I thought it a good idea.

With regards to voting, my main intention is to use the guidance provided by Mr Daish to advise me.

I hope to be able to attend the match at Kidderminster on 2nd February. I sincerely hope that I will be made welcome by the fans who loyally attend matches every week.

Ebbsfleet has a proud history. Even though the name may have changed recently, 'The Fleet' has been around for years. It is one of the few Kent clubs that have managed to stay around, and for that everybody involved in the club, in management and in the fanbase, should be proud.

If anyone wanted to swan in, play silly beggars and discard the club like an unwanted toy I would hate to be associated with them. My sincerest hope, and belief, is that the vast majority of members do not want to do that.

Now I have said my piece I wish to remain on this forum and learn more about the club from those from whom it is important to learn - the fans.

Well said, Kentish Expat. Welcome to The Fleet.

As for the self appointed Gaffer, you weren't Fleet Loyal in a previous existence were you? He had the same pathological need to wind people up. Don't bite people. The bait's very ordinary.

EC

[Kentish Expat]

Thanks for the welcome

[DA11]

Originally Posted By: leebee

how can that gaffer wanabe say that Ebbsfleet is a small and irrelivant club, anyone watch skysports news for the announcement? would an irrelevant club be on TV because of a takeover?
How can anyone even compare a group of championship manager playing wanabes to a smaller number of surprisingly passionate and persistant fans that get behind our team? i myself have been to all the home games this season and have all the programs, how many of the new owners have? what can the thousands of dreamers say about our team, how can they pick our eleven when they don't know our squad? I say leave Liam Daish, Alan Kimble, Jason Botley, Adrian Feltstead, Roly Edwards, Mick Ward, Brian Kilcullen and Duncan Holt to do their jobs and the fans to do theirs and get behind the team through thick and thin like we've been doing all season and always have.

They probably would given the novelty value of the story.

[AF_Fulham]

Originally Posted By: urchin_mentalist

Originally Posted By: gaspode

Yes, I agree with Busta. I have no doubt that the team will continue to be picked by Liam. The purchasing of players will still be lead by Liam / The existing board. Others may have input, but it will take a large group of like minded idiots to alter any of the informed decisions handed to them.

All that has changed is that we have got a huge investment and a higher profile.

It may not be what most people here think, but count me in.

I asked quite a few of the people around my office and the response was unanimous - it sounds like a good idea. When I asked if they would like it for their team the response was - "for £700k - no", but they are mostly premier league team supporters. If you change the sum to £700 million, most would go along with it. Ask Chelsea fans whether they like having Abramovich in charge

Ask the cheslea fans that used to follow the club through thick and thing whether they like abramovich.Alot will say they preferred life under Bates.
Money isn't everything,sometimes its actually better to achieve things in football through hard work not chasing the buck

Ask any Chelsea fan about anything and your likely to get a dull look...

[AF_Fulham]

Originally Posted By: leebee

how can that gaffer wanabe say that Ebbsfleet is a small and irrelivant club, anyone watch skysports news for the announcement? would an irrelevant club be on TV because of a takeover?

How can anyone even compare a group of championship manager playing wanabes to a smaller number of surprisingly passionate and persistant fans that get behind our team? i myself have been to all the home games this season and have all the programs, how many of the new owners have? what can the thousands of dreamers say about our team, how can they pick our eleven when they don't know our squad? I say leave Liam Daish, Alan Kimble, Jason Botley, Adrian Feltstead, Roly Edwards, Mick Ward, Brian Kilcullen and Duncan Holt to do their jobs and the fans to do theirs and get behind the team through thick and thin like we've been doing all season and always have.

Not much, that's why i encourage you to become an owner fan as well.

[AF_Fulham]

Originally Posted By: BustaGut

Originally Posted By: thegaffer

f*ck off you losers. I'm going to be involved, why dont you just do the same. Your current owner wants to sell so what you moaning about.

You have paid for about 0.05% of Ebbsfleet for one year, I own more than that each time I buy PROGRAMME, so who are the losers, at least I get something for my money, what actually do you own???? if its not you, some other mug will be giving us our money, so losers, ???? think about it lol

Sory mate, but a programme doesn't give you a share last time i checked. £35 squids will though... And just to mention, we are not for profit, which means the share holders (i.e me and my mates) can never take money out of the club... even if we sell the club the money goes to charity... so what would you prefer? A single share holder who wants to make money? or real fans who care about your club? The choice is yours, the deal will be ratified by our members, we can easily pull out if you prefer...

[FleetFanatic]

How can you "care" about a club you had probably never even heard of before today?

[BustaGut]

Originally Posted By: AF_Fulham

Originally Posted By: BustaGut

Originally Posted By: thegaffer

f*ck off you losers. I'm going to be involved, why dont you just do the same. Your current owner wants to sell so what you moaning about.

You have paid for about 0.05% of Ebbsfleet for one year, I own more than that each time I buy PROGRAMME, so who are the losers, at least I get something for my money, what actually do you own???? if its not you, some other mug will be giving us our money, so losers, ???? think about it lol

Sory mate, but a programme doesn't give you a share last time i checked. £35 squids will though... And just to mention, we are not for profit, which means the share holders (i.e me and my mates) can never take money out of the club... even if we sell the club the money goes to charity... so what would you prefer? A single share holder who wants to make money? or real fans who care about your club? The choice is yours, the deal will be ratified by our members, we can easily pull out if you prefer...

A share of what, a Share of nothing is still nothing, you own naff all, I own a programme, and when I buy my next one I own two and so and so on, you still have nothing,or a share in a trust that has 51% of Ebbsfleet, which you rent for a year or three years or what ever you pay for, I own my Programme for ever.You rent yours I own mine, there is a big differnce.

[American FLEET FAN No1]

Be fair......They get to own a one, two, or three year inflated ego!

[Steve (YCFC)]

The title of this thread should be

 

20000 who will be around for 1 year v 1000 who will be around for 20 years.

 

This whole myfootballclub farce is based around, 20,000 people paying £35 year after year after year which just will not happen, they will get bored and disinterested after 1 year.

 

Ebbsfleet will then be saddled with their decisions to pay player X, who did well for them on Football Manager and therefore was bought, £2000 a week on a three year contract.

 

Ebbsfleet fans resist at all costs.

[FleetFanatic]

The only reason the majority of people are donating the cash is so they get to play Football Manager with a real club. They have no emotional attachment to us, they probably hadn't even heard of the club before today, and very very few will ever go to a game. Lets not forget it's actually supporting a club by attending games that makes a supporter, with exception of AFF in America (who used to when in the UK) and a few others currently working or living abroad.

 

I assume most of the people who are donating already support another club, so are they really going to actually support us, except by pushing buttons on their PC? Are they going to give up there current club and become fellow fans? Of course not.

 

They aren't even getting a financial stake in the club. So, they have to get something for the cash or else they wont donate, so what you're giving them is the chance to interfere with team affairs. If you just said "give us some cash because this non league clubs needs funds" people wouldn't donate.

[doheochai]

Originally Posted By: Steve (YCFC)

Ebbsfleet will then be saddled with their decisions to pay player X, who did well for them on Football Manager and therefore was bought, £2000 a week on a three year contract.

Ebbsfleet fans resist at all costs.

At the risk of boring the pants off people by repaeting myself for the X time. The rules of MyFC prohibit the membership making any decision that puts the club in any financillay vulnerable position. In effect the club will have to be run on a break-even basis.

And, by the way, anyone that mentions Football Manager on the MyFC forum (there is an occasional person) is immediately taken to task. I have never played Football Manager - and the vast majority of MyFC members are hostile to any mention of it.

[PatMan]

Originally Posted By: doheochai

Originally Posted By: Steve (YCFC)

Ebbsfleet will then be saddled with their decisions to pay player X, who did well for them on Football Manager and therefore was bought, £2000 a week on a three year contract.

Ebbsfleet fans resist at all costs.

At the risk of boring the pants off people by repaeting myself for the X time. The rules of MyFC prohibit the membership making any decision that puts the club in any financillay vulnerable position. In effect the club will have to be run on a break-even basis.

And, by the way, anyone that mentions Football Manager on the MyFC forum (there is an occasional person) is immediately taken to task. I have never played Football Manager - and the vast majority of MyFC members are hostile to any mention of it.

At the risk of boring the pants off people by repeating things over and over... MyFC and its members have NO LONG TERM commitment to Ebbsfleet - whereas a player has a contract for 3 years which would have to be fulfilled. See, this is the kind of worries that happen when 20,000 people think they can run a football team! If the rules state you cannot put the club into a financially vulnerable position, then you can NEVER enter a long term contract!

[doheochai]

Originally Posted By: PatMan

If the rules state you cannot put the club into a financially vulnerable position, then you can NEVER enter a long term contract!

Yes they can - in such a situation money can be ringfenced from existing funds to cover the contract.

Remember the involvement of MyFC has the potential to at least double the turnover of the club. It would be a serious waste to blow it all just because its there. There is likely to be a significant sum set aside for future financial planning - including looking at the development of a new ground - if necessary.

[Steve (YCFC)]

Originally Posted By: doheochai

Originally Posted By: Steve (YCFC)

Ebbsfleet will then be saddled with their decisions to pay player X, who did well for them on Football Manager and therefore was bought, £2000 a week on a three year contract.

Ebbsfleet fans resist at all costs.

At the risk of boring the pants off people by repaeting myself for the X time. The rules of MyFC prohibit the membership making any decision that puts the club in any financillay vulnerable position. In effect the club will have to be run on a break-even basis.

And, by the way, anyone that mentions Football Manager on the MyFC forum (there is an occasional person) is immediately taken to task. I have never played Football Manager - and the vast majority of MyFC members are hostile to any mention of it.

So you are saying that because of the structure of MyFC (as you like to call it) you are unable to make any long term financial plans as you have to run at breakeven and your income could fluctuate wildly depending on the committment of your members.

You therefore could only set budgets once all the members have paid up, or not as the case may be. This must mean that players could only be offered 1 year contracts as offering them longer contrcats would put the club in a financially vunerable position.

With 20000 people your memebers will be a diverse bunch, so for everyone committed to the long term success of the venture there will be probably 10 who think that for £35, less than the cost of a computer game or a night on the piss, they can have a buy a club, have a laugh for a year or two and walk away without feeling any guilt if it all goes wrong, after all it is only Ebbsfleet.

[PatMan]

Originally Posted By: doheochai

Originally Posted By: PatMan

If the rules state you cannot put the club into a financially vulnerable position, then you can NEVER enter a long term contract!

Yes they can - in such a situation money can be ringfenced from existing funds to cover the contract.

Remember the involvement of MyFC has the potential to at least double the turnover of the club. It would be a serious waste to blow it all just because its there. There is likely to be a significant sum set aside for future financial planning - including looking at the development of a new ground - if necessary.

Ringfencing existing funds, new ground development - FFS, you are only putting in just over half a million, that doesn't buy much, esp if you expect Fleet to rise thru the leagues!

[speedo]

so some of u on myfc think this is just a laugh,and your a chelsea fan gaffer will kiss my behind i know some fans who watch the club for years and there fathers before them when it was two clubs over 100 years of history were player come and player go but the fans the true fans the one's who been there throw the good time's and the bad have stayed. now the directors should have let us know about all this or that it was in the pipe line but there didn't there just went behind our back. now for all those in myfc who do what this to work and try and get on with the fans good luck. now my premiership team is liverpool and u no how much we passionate about them it the same for all the ebbsfleet fans me as well as there my local team. so gaffer come to a home game and see how passionate we areabout the fleet before u put another comment on here and that goes for all the myfc who think this is just a laugh, because till than u know f-all about football

[Roger Kint]

Originally Posted By: PatMan

Originally Posted By: doheochai

Originally Posted By: Steve (YCFC)

Ebbsfleet will then be saddled with their decisions to pay player X, who did well for them on Football Manager and therefore was bought, £2000 a week on a three year contract.

Ebbsfleet fans resist at all costs.

At the risk of boring the pants off people by repaeting myself for the X time. The rules of MyFC prohibit the membership making any decision that puts the club in any financillay vulnerable position. In effect the club will have to be run on a break-even basis.

And, by the way, anyone that mentions Football Manager on the MyFC forum (there is an occasional person) is immediately taken to task. I have never played Football Manager - and the vast majority of MyFC members are hostile to any mention of it.

At the risk of boring the pants off people by repeating things over and over... MyFC and its members have NO LONG TERM commitment to Ebbsfleet - whereas a player has a contract for 3 years which would have to be fulfilled. See, this is the kind of worries that happen when 20,000 people think they can run a football team! If the rules state you cannot put the club into a financially vulnerable position, then you can NEVER enter a long term contract!

Just out of interest Pat, how many players at this level of football do you think get to see 3 year contracts?