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Sadly, more and more fans are finding better things to do on Saturday afternoons.

Overall at home, entertainment has been limited, 23 league goals in total from 9 games, of which 9 came in one.

Still playing ghastly route 1 stuff (according to the FGR forum), and listening to LD on the radio, problems still in all areas of the pitch.

The main cup has gone, play offs look remote, and only the Trophy and the Setanta cup to play for by 2nd November.I tend to agree with LD, new blood is needed on the pitch.

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Originally Posted By: John Pearce


No Hirsty I wasn't there.....thankfully!

Having seen what can only be described as a debacle against Exeter last week, I thought I'd sit at home watching the back garden grass grow.

Boring and a bit like pulling out teeth without an anesthetic.........sadly much like watching the 'Fleet at the moment but without having to fork out £13.


If the Fleet had won yesterday they would have been one win off of a play-off place, which makes you either a very hard man to please or a complete and utter t*ss*r, I know which my money is on.
Summer is for watching grass grow, in November the grass stops growing and football fans all over the country go and support their football club, most of them are p*ss*d off with what they see because there have to be losers but if they are real fans they keep going back and supporting their team because they are fans. For those of you, like John, who don't know, fans is short for fanatic and support means get behind them and cheer them on.
Some people aren't fit to be football fans and are best suited to watching grass grow even through the winter when it won't actually grow.
Good luck for the rest of the winter John, I hope you have some exciting Saturdays cheering the grass on, I'll be cheeing the boys on and no doubt getting a few dissapointments along the way but I will support thm.


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'Fanatic' not the way I would describe LD after listening to his interview yesterday, talk about 'Buck passing', who picks the team, who changed the game and team after pre-season and early matches. We were watching entertaining, enthusiastic football then, now it is a competition of how long the ball can be kept in the air. Who is dictating a complete change of style and formation. Who is meant to be bringing his team together with encouragement, and training skills, not broadcasted threats. If the side line antics are an insite into the training sessions no wonder the team are confused. Yes we like to win but to me it is secondary to leaving the ground feeling my team have played good entertaining FOOTBALL and have just been unlucky on the day.

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Originally Posted By: The Truth
Originally Posted By: John Pearce


No Hirsty I wasn't there.....thankfully!

Having seen what can only be described as a debacle against Exeter last week, I thought I'd sit at home watching the back garden grass grow.

Boring and a bit like pulling out teeth without an anesthetic.........sadly much like watching the 'Fleet at the moment but without having to fork out £13.


If the Fleet had won yesterday they would have been one win off of a play-off place, which makes you either a very hard man to please or a complete and utter t*ss*r, I know which my money is on.
Summer is for watching grass grow, in November the grass stops growing and football fans all over the country go and support their football club, most of them are p*ss*d off with what they see because there have to be losers but if they are real fans they keep going back and supporting their team because they are fans. For those of you, like John, who don't know, fans is short for fanatic and support means get behind them and cheer them on.
Some people aren't fit to be football fans and are best suited to watching grass grow even through the winter when it won't actually grow.
Good luck for the rest of the winter John, I hope you have some exciting Saturdays cheering the grass on, I'll be cheeing the boys on and no doubt getting a few dissapointments along the way but I will support thm.




Those who know who I am, will know that I have supported the 'Fleet through thick and thin since the early 60's.

Attending matches, home and away, regularly, albeit some seasons more than others for a number of reasons. I therefore treat the response from 'The Truth' with the contempt that it fully deserves.

Perhaps he/she, or more importantly perhaps the club itself, might like to ask themselves why a supporter of the club, over many many seasons, feels so lethargic about the club as I do.

If they cannot convince me to attend games on a more regular basis, what chance have they got to attract new supporters who have never been to Stonebridge Road in their lives?
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Originally Posted By: Chatham Gary
Sadly, more and more fans are finding better things to do on Saturday afternoons.

The main cup has gone, play offs look remote, and only the Trophy and the Setanta cup to play for by 2nd November.I tend to agree with LD, new blood is needed on the pitch.


By definition if you are a fan there is nothing better to do on a Saturday afternoon C.G. possibly you meant more and more casuals.

The play offs looked remote before the season started not only for us but for two thirds of the league. Other than Histon who are this years surprise package, we are sitting higher in the league than all of the teams I expected us to finish above and a couple that I didn't.
We have played all of the top teams, taking creditable away points at Cambridge, Burton and Exeter and beating Torquay.
We are sitting 9th in the league just 6 points off of a play off place.
Currently we are overachieving yet again.
Of course we would all like to see some new blood, particularly a free scoring centre forward but we all know about the budgetary restraints which make it so hard for us to compete against the bigger clubs in this league.



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Originally Posted By: John Pearce

Perhaps he/she, or more importantly perhaps the club itself, might like to ask themselves why a supporter of the club, over many many seasons, feels so lethargic about the club as I do.



OK then, what are your reasons for not watching regularly? And how do they compare with the years you presumably did watch it when the football, the standard of it and the level it was played at must have been far and away poorer than now (I wasn't there, but some of the reports from the late Sixties would seem to suggest that those watching now are in comparative luxury given the level of football and achievement)?
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Originally Posted By: Slartibartfast
Originally Posted By: Chatham Gary
Sadly, more and more fans are finding better things to do on Saturday afternoons.

The main cup has gone, play offs look remote, and only the Trophy and the Setanta cup to play for by 2nd November.I tend to agree with LD, new blood is needed on the pitch.



Currently we are overachieving yet again.

Of course we would all like to see some new blood, particularly a free scoring centre forward but we all know about the budgetary restraints which make it so hard for us to compete against the bigger clubs in this league.


Fully agree with the first point.

Second point, whilst I agree it is hard competing with the larger clubs in the Blue Square Conference. We did have an opportunity to sign what could have been a free scoring striker, certainly before the season started, both were with Kent clubs albeit clubs at a lower level but were certainly worth the risk, but both went elsewhere.

I would not call Forest Green a 'big' club, but they have certainly unearthed a gem in Stuart Fleetwood. If they can do it, why on earth can't the 'Fleet?
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Originally Posted By: John Pearce

I would not call Forest Green a 'big' club, but they have certainly unearthed a gem in Stuart Fleetwood. If they can do it, why on earth can't the 'Fleet?


We did. Last year. Charlie MacDonald. FGR look like being the 'us' of this season and will probably finish top six or so... take Fleetwood out of the equation and they'll still be a reasonable team, but probably mid-table. Like us this season.
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Originally Posted By: eddy
'Fanatic' not the way I would describe LD after listening to his interview yesterday, talk about 'Buck passing', who picks the team, who changed the game and team after pre-season and early matches. We were watching entertaining, enthusiastic football then, now it is a competition of how long the ball can be kept in the air. Who is dictating a complete change of style and formation. Who is meant to be bringing his team together with encouragement, and training skills, not broadcasted threats. If the side line antics are an insite into the training sessions no wonder the team are confused. Yes we like to win but to me it is secondary to leaving the ground feeling my team have played good entertaining FOOTBALL and have just been unlucky on the day.




I don't think you can completely blame Liam for this performance.
He put out a team he felt was capable of winning the game. I, and most probably a lot of other people, thought that the team he put out were capable of winning the game. The players were probably not instructed to go out and play like a pub team who'd never met each other before, in fact, the performances of a couple of players (Paul McCarthy, Michael Bostwick and Chris Mcphee) seem to suggest completely the opposite.
I think he's done the right thing in telling the media that he's not happy with the players, or 'broadcasting threats' as you put it, this perhaps will make the players sit up and take notice. They have had enough warnings and now it's time to get tough with them, the exit of De Bolla suggests Liam has started to do this.
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Originally Posted By: John Pearce
I would not call Forest Green a 'big' club, but they have certainly unearthed a gem in Stuart Fleetwood. If they can do it, why on earth can't the 'Fleet?


John, I think FGR got Fleetwood the same way we got Charlie. We took a chance on a known goalscorer who had had a few injury problems they took Fleetwood when he had missed a season with a viral illness.....he looks to have gotten over it now.



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We did do it. And as a 'little club', we couldn't hold on to a player who could, and is, holding his own in higher leagues. Players like Stuart Fleetwood and Charlie Mac do not come along every season- if they did, we would not be in the Conference, but a higher league. It's our financial contraints which mean we can't hold on to our talent, whereas Stevenage and Steve Morison, for example, can. John, if you want to help the club hold on to their better players, don't give up on the team and go and give £13 a game towards holding on to the next Charlie Mac when he comes along.

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Originally Posted By: hopeful
Some people come on this forum like they think they own it.Why give abuse just because somebody gives their opinion,you want to know why gates are down,people tell you why they dont come anymore and all you can do is call em a t***er.Grow up and take note.


You may, or may not, be aiming this at me. However, I have not seen any "abuse" whatsoever. As has been said before, this is a forum for debate.....of course there are going to be differences of opinion...it would be boring if we were all the same !!

My opinion, to which I am just about entitled these days, as are you, is that I cannot understand why some people:-

a) seem to want us to lose or not do well &
B) refuse to come again because of the change of name

Now, don't get me wrong, that is entirely the choice of the individual concerned. but I just can't understand it !

A question to John P:-

You have said that you have been following the Fleet since the early 60's and good on yer.......but why give up now ?
We're in the Conference and doing ok....could be better, could be worse....but surely an improvement on the Ryman/Southern league days when attendences were 200 - 300 and some of the football I saw was awful !!

OK, yesterday was bad, but overall I'd rather be were we are today than playing Carshalton ( no disrespect to them.....just a name plucked at random )in the Ryman/Southern.

I respect your view & decision, all I have trouble with is understanding it.

Cheers,

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On a seemingly rare occasion, I have a deal of sympathy for LD after yesterday. He sounded clearly hacked off with certain players - no-one specific, but he blamed all areas of the side.

If the team resort to route 1 despite instructions to the othewise, he clearly cannot substitute all the guity players.

Possibly it was my good fortune to miss yesterday, my mood hasn't been so badly damaged as those who did go, but now is the time for the men to stand up and be counted, and to let the boys move on to other clubs.

That is what LD said on RK, by the way.

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I felt a bit of sympathy for Nade yesterday....reminded me of when I used to play up front for Fleetway.....chasing all sorts of long ball here there & everywhere against 3 defenders.

 

If we had played like we did in the last 10 minutes for longer periods of the game, then we may have got something out of it !

 

Cheers,

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Originally Posted By: Slartibartfast
Chukki didn't look 100% fit, I wonder if he came back from injury too soon due to our shortage of frontmen.
George was the surprise choice upfront the previous week and with him out injured on Saturday it was hard to see who else Liam could have picked.


Spot on!

It was obvious that he wasn't 100% and he deserves credit for putting himself about as much as he did. Mind he wont get any credit because he is thought of in certain circles as a lazy good-for-nothing!

I think the same was true with Macca too.

Earlier in the thread, reference was made to us not picking up one of the two "decent" strikers who were/are available from other Kentish clubs.

If thats meant to mean Deanny Hockton and John Main? I think everyone is a little mis-guided.

I watched Hockton several times last year and frankly was glad we didn't bid for him as I'm not at all sure he would have made the grade. his work rate was pretty damn poor for starters and he isnt exactly setting the world alight at Bromley. Also I am led to believe the move to Bromley was a "done deal" anyway.

I've not seen Main and can't really comment on him except to say that several clubs have been looking at him and decided against taking the risk which says a lot.

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