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coach et 64 Newbie

coach et 64

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Originally Posted By: Uncle Urchin
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even on a saturday you are asking players and officials to cross that bridge twice at busy times like shopping hours on saturday.too much travelling as well.it's called ESL and should include ALL clubs in Essex.We have enough clubs in Essex and the FA should enforce that.Stanway,Tiptree,Saffron Walden,Clacton,Halstead,YOU ARE ALL IN ESSEX! hump


agree and then we can see all these forum donkeys play...or not as the case may be....

coachey for ingurland... grin


feck the development...we'll call back Eddie Nash,Kevin Maddocks all that lot plus a few thugs from the southend borough combination grinwe'll make toughies like that Jerry,Silencer,Onebreast,Smallsy and Kingy-Stingy look like pussies and win all the home games only by sheer intimidation.Not only that...we'll make the opposition getting changed in the ladies changing rooms close to the bar! alk
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What I've seen of the Essex Senior League the standard is poor and I wouldn't waste my money to watch football in that league.

Elsewhere in the county there is a better choice of non-league football to watch, ie clubs in the Ryman League or even clubs below the ESL such as those who play in the Boarder League or the Olympian League. Many of these clubs who are below the ESL have better pitches, clubhouses and several of them bigger support. I can't see the likes of Coggeshall Town, White Notley or Hatfield Peverel wanting to join the ESL they would rather move up the footall ladder through the Eastern Counties League, just for travelling reason's for a start. Would the likes of White Ensign, Ongar Town and Writtle be better of moving up to the ESL, I think not.

To improve the ESL would yes have 2 divisions but where would the clubs come from. I can't see the likes of Clacton, Halstead Town or Stanway Rovers wanting to switch leagues because of the travelling costs alone and the distance a midweek fixture from one side of the county to another.

Also, would clubs in Kent wanted to join a revamped ESL for the same reason's as stated. Trying to get over the Dartford Crossing is a bitch at the best of times or a trip on the M25.

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Arenaboy...ma vaffanculo :Dgo back to your brentwood chores!brentwood in the southern league,you're having a laugh bearwhere did you see them playing?what a load of baloons2

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and you say that after watching your "second club" brentwood or brentwood fc for over 30 years in the essex senior league.you are an expert,aren't you? doah

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The best way of getting two divisions for the ESL immeadiately, is to merge with the Kent League (call it Thameside League) and create two leagues of seventeen teams.


We discussed this some time ago and I suggested that we stayed our own side of the river for evening games and went over the river for Saturday games.
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The best way of getting two divisions for the ESL immeadiately, is to merge with the Kent League (call it Thameside League) and create two leagues of seventeen teams.


We discussed this some time ago and I suggested that we stayed our own side of the river for evening games and went over the river for Saturday games.


Exactly. I can see how using the crossing wouldn't be ideal, but it'd give the ESL the boost it needs.

Clubs like Clacton, Harwich and Stanway etc. aren't going to just up sticks and move to ESL, they need to be forced. Travel costs are a cop-out of an excuse. They're only being asked to travel across a county, not across a bloody country.
The other reason I've heard of those teams not wanting to join the ESL is due to poor crowds in the ESL. All that'd change if they were to join, so again, it's a cop-out.
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It's been successful over the years, but the quality of the clubs is dwindling. Crap like Mauritious do more harm to the league than anything else. If Clacton et al were to come over, there would be a lot more competition. Though some of those clubs may be in Ridgeons 2 at the moment, Clacton surely wouldn't be far from the top of ESL.


way your going ribbit you'll be joining them all soon anyway... grin


That'll be fun, won't it? tongue
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It is a lot easier to goto clubs like Stanway / Clacton / Tiptree / Saffron Walden than it is to goto Herne Bay / Faversham Town / Deal Town! (even on a Saturday!). However, the Ridgeons clubs would have to be forced to move by the FA to the Essex Senior! I have never worked out why teams like Tiptree / Clacton would want to play at step 6 in the Ridgeons rather than step 5 in the Essex Semior League?

 

I still think there is a place for a step 6 league that is a division 2 to the Essex Senior League using clubs from the Olympian League and the Essex & Suffolk Border League as its base of getting clubs!

 

As I understand it, the FA have said to leagues that to have a step 5 league you need to have a step 6 league that at least is a feeder league to you! Essex Senior League does not have this at the moment? and is therefore in danger of being relegated to Step 6? (Perhaps to feed the Ridgeons / Spartan South Midlands Premier divisions?)

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It isn't the clubs fault there is no step six. Try the intransigent Essex FA for one, for being so bloody picky as to ground-grading. It should only come into force from step four onwards. Have a look at the ESL attendances, hardly full of yob culture.

Ergo, why should the clubs suffer and move down a step?

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It isn't the clubs fault there is no step six. Try the intransigent Essex FA for one, for being so bloody picky as to ground-grading. It should only come into force from step four onwards. Have a look at the ESL attendances, hardly full of yob culture.
Ergo, why should the clubs suffer and move down a step?


Couldn't agree more Coups old chap. But all the criticism in the world won't alter the EFA's obduracy!
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