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Costing EUFC Money - Part 2

JimGNFC

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Its more than just the Stewards thats costing the Club money.

 

a) Re-naming the Club to Ebbsfleet United F.C. has resulted in a drop in attendances - over 10% to date. another's website (http://www.tonykempster.co.uk/confatt.htm) indicates the average attendance this season is 1011. Last season the average gate was 1165.

 

Why are the Club not asking where the 154 fans have gone?

 

B) Season ticket sales were significantly down on last season. Why have the Club made no effort to contact those that failed to renew season tickets?

 

c) Where's the publicity for the newly branded Ebbsfleet FC? Most people I've spoken with feel the name change, mean's the Club no longer represents the 2 main towns in the area. With this in mind, there is a need more than ever to market the Club.

 

The banner opposite Tesco advertising future games is a good idea but is this the extent of the advertising campaign? If Dartford F.C. can advertise on the back page of The Gravesend Reporter, then why can't Ebbsfleet F.C.?

 

d) The Fleet forum is riddled with stories about ex-Millwall supporters causing trouble and stewards acting like dictators. Anyone thinking about taking their kids to the Fleet for the first time, will quickly be pursuaded otherwise. What action are the Club taking on this matter?

 

e) Why aren't thousands of tickets for games being given out to local schools? A few hundred is not enough.

 

More worringly, 2-3 years ago the Board described Accrington Stanley as being a role model for the Fleet, as they won promotion with attendances only marginally better than the Fleet's at the time.

 

After a couple of seasons in the Football League, they appear to be need of new investment with under 1500 turning up to their last game. Is this really the vision the Board has in mind for Ebbsfleet F.C.?

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/a/accrington_stanley/6976009.stm

 

Far from being a criticism of the Club this is intended as a "wake-up" call to those running the Club. They have lost fans over the name change, especially "seasoned" season ticket holders, are continuing to ignore stewarding/fan issues and are failing miserably to promote the new Ebbsfleet F.C. within the 2 main towns that the Club's name bears no association with.

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some every interesting points there, i think maybe a simple solution to the lower attendances would be to lower the admission prices, then we would not only be getting more fans at games but the club would be making the same amount of money, if not more money. if the prices were less we could make more money by more people paying to get and then more people buying programmes and food, although £2 for a portion of chips is a bit expensive. so i thnk we could still get hgher attendances despite the name change. i dont no why we arnt advertised n the paper yet dartford are tho, seems silly to me. somethng does need to be done about stewards and some supporters aswell, and giving out thousands of tickets would be a good idea to.

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I don't want to ruin your rant with some facts but:

 

Originally Posted By: JimGNFC
(a) Re-naming the Club to Ebbsfleet United F.C. has resulted in a drop in attendances - over 10% to date. another's website (http://www.tonykempster.co.uk/confatt.htm) indicates the average attendance this season is 1011. Last season the average gate was 1165.

 

If you compare the average for the same matches last season, then this season is 1,059 and last season is 1,179, but this is inflated by the fact that the Northwich match last season was free admission. Obviously it's not great that attendances are down, but it's far too early to draw any conclusions, and to say that it's all down to the name change is just plain daft.

 

 

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B) Season ticket sales were significantly down on last season. Why have the Club made no effort to contact those that failed to renew season tickets?

 

Actually, season ticket sales this season are up on last season's figure.

 

 

Obviously there is always more that can be done in the marketing department, but you cannot expect it to happen overnight.

 

As you rightly said we have made a start with the banner, and there was a half-page advert in one or two of the papers for the opening matches, so some effort is being made.

 

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d) The Fleet forum is riddled with stories about ex-Millwall supporters causing trouble and stewards acting like dictators. Anyone thinking about taking their kids to the Fleet for the first time, will quickly be pursuaded otherwise. What action are the Club taking on this matter?

 

I suppose that the club could ask the administrators to close down the forum, buceasu IMHO these problems are more imagined than real. Those people complaining about the stewarding obviously don't go to many away matches or that would realise just how easy going our stewards are compared to a number of other grounds.

 

As somebody said in the other thread, the yellow lines are there, we all know what they mean, so why does anybody feel that they are an exception and can stand/sit wherever their fancy takes them.

 

As regards any trouble-makers, unless someone points then out, then there is little that the club can do. Every match could be segregated and we could pay for a police presence within the ground, but I can imagine how well that will go down with those people who already thisnk we are over stewarded.

 

Things are far from perfect I agree, but to continue to blame the name change is hardly constructive.

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As DH has said, on a like-for-like basis there is not much difference. When we have played Aldershot and Oxford a more meaningful figure should emerge. However, what would be more informative would be comparing home fan attendances in segregated matches. I do not know if these are available.

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[quote=David Holden

 

Those people complaining about the stewarding obviously don't go to many away matches or that would realise just how easy going our stewards are compared to a number of other grounds.

 

Thats a good point, i suppose our stewards arnt so bad compared to some teams, such as at rushden this year when they wouldnt let us sit n the seats behind the goal even tho behind the goal was for away fans.

 

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David as I said in Pt 1 it is the not the yellow lines that are the problem.It is the way the stewerds go about inforcing the rules.As I said if I was the parent who had attended with these young children for the first time I would be very reluctant to return.There was no reason given to these people as to why they had to remove theit toes from the line as stated communication skills are zero and by the way I attend a lot of away matches.I think a blending of a more mature stewerd may help the matter with a few human communication courses.I just think it needs "commonsense on all parts".

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All these problems have arisen since there's been a new head steward I have noticed, maybe the rules enforced are over the top for non-league football, its understandable about yellow lines and gangways etc. but its the no standing rule I don't get, anyone would think we're in a Premiership ground.

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Originally Posted By: Kevin - EUFC TIL I DIE!
All these problems have arisen since there's been a new head steward I have noticed, maybe the rules enforced are over the top for non-league football, its understandable about yellow lines and gangways etc. but its the no standing rule I don't get, anyone would think we're in a Premiership ground.


You can stand in nearly two thirds of the ground.
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Originally Posted By: Kevin - EUFC TIL I DIE!
All these problems have arisen since there's been a new head steward I have noticed, maybe the rules enforced are over the top for non-league football, its understandable about yellow lines and gangways etc. but its the no standing rule I don't get, anyone would think we're in a Premiership ground.


The trouble is not standing, Kevin, it's standing in the seated area. They should never have allowed those with the drum to stand in the seats. Sit down in the seated area or don't go there. If you want to stand bring a drum.
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Originally Posted By: Ebbsfleet Fan Jamie
Standing in the side stands is not the same as standing behnd the goal tho, but if the stewards insist we must st down then we will all just hve to move to the side stand if we want to stand up then.


Great answer to your own question.
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