Costing EUFC Money

[Slartibartfast]

Originally Posted By: Robbo

Just let us stand behind the goal again and we'll be happy. There was no problem the whole of last season, why does there have to be one now?

Or a simpler solution would be if you don't want to sit don't go into an area with seats.
Not rocket science is it?

[1 TOOTH]

i never said get rid of the segregation altogether.the away fans dont need the whole end apart from oxford.why not give them one corner and then the noisey lot can then stand behind the goal at the swanscombe end

[Robbo]

Originally Posted By: Slartibartfast

Originally Posted By: Robbo

Just let us stand behind the goal again and we'll be happy. There was no problem the whole of last season, why does there have to be one now?

Or a simpler solution would be if you don't want to sit don't go into an area with seats.
Not rocket science is it?

Do you not remember how grumpy all the old fogies down the side stand were when the singers moved there last time? For about the last 5 years or so, the way it's worked is that the people who wanna enjoy themselves and make a bit of noise go behind the goal, the people who want some quiet stand down the side. If this no standing rule continues behind the goal that's all gonna change. And people ain't gonna like it.

More importantly though, people sitting down = less atmosphere. Can't remember how many times throughout the years games have been won or lost on how much encouragement the crowd have given the players. If the atmosphere at games continues to be killed by the club, performances will suffer, and more and more people will get bored with games.

[Ebbsfleet Fan Jamie]

thats a good idea, but i cannot see it working as it will be hard to seperate both sets of fans, it was tryed out a couple of seasons ago and was stopped after the a Canvey game due to crowd troble.

[American FLEET FAN No1]

Originally Posted By: Maxman

I am beginning to think the over zelous stewerding is starting to cost the club hard cash.If I was taking a young person to the match and just because he had his toes 20mm on the yellow line he was told to stand up and go back when he was causing no obstruction at all is a bit hard to swallow.There is no reason given and it all seems a bit heavey handed to me.

I must have misread this original post........A young person had his toes 20mm on the yellow line!
The Stewards were quite right, 20 mm of toes could so easily cause somebody to trip, or block a Fire Escape, or cause an idiot(probably a Steward) to invade the pitch, as speedo took the time to give(far less time, I might add that it took me to decipher it!) as an excuse reason.
It hardly seems as if somebody was blatantly flouting the rules, it does seem as if a Steward completely over-reacted!

[Slartibartfast]

There haven't been seats behind the goal for 5 years so it was perfectly ok to stand there, now there are seats and it isn't.The clue is the seats.

There is nothing to say that you can't bang a drum and sing and create an atmosphere from the side of the pitch, and yes you are probably right that some of the people who currently stand there won't like it but it is a big ground and unfortunately it is three quarters empty so there is plenty of space for people to move away from the singing if they want to.

Who knows some of them might even enjoy the atmosphere.

[Harry J Allstars]

I love this thread...

 

I don't like the yellow lines, lest get rid of them. I'm also not happy about segregation or being told to sit down. I also don't like the stewards.

 

But they're all due to health and safety, the stewards are just doing their jobs.

 

I don't like the yellow lines, lest get rid of them. I'm also not happy about segregation or being told to sit down. I also don't like the stewards.

 

But they're all due to health and safety, the stewards are just doing their jobs.

 

I don't like the yellow lines, lest get rid of them. I'm also not happy about segregation or being told to sit down. I also don't like the stewards.

 

But they're all due to health and safety, the stewards are just doing their jobs.

 

I don't like the yellow lines, lest get rid of them. I'm also not happy about segregation or being told to sit down. I also don't like the stewards.

 

But they're all due to health and safety, the stewards are just doing their jobs.

 

I don't like the yellow lines, lest get rid of them. I'm also not happy about segregation or being told to sit down. I also don't like the stewards.

 

But they're all due to health and safety, the stewards are just doing their jobs.

 

I don't like the yellow lines, lest get rid of them. I'm also not happy about segregation or being told to sit down. I also don't like the stewards.

 

But they're all due to health and safety, the stewards are just doing their jobs.

 

I don't like the yellow lines, lest get rid of them. I'm also not happy about segregation or being told to sit down. I also don't like the stewards.

 

But they're all due to health and safety, the stewards are just doing their jobs.

 

I don't like the yellow lines, lest get rid of them. I'm also not happy about segregation or being told to sit down. I also don't like the stewards.

 

But they're all due to health and safety, the stewards are just doing their jobs.

 

I don't like the yellow lines, lest get rid of them. I'm also not happy about segregation or being told to sit down. I also don't like the stewards.

 

But they're all due to health and safety, the stewards are just doing their jobs.

 

I don't like the yellow lines, lest get rid of them. I'm also not happy about segregation or being told to sit down. I also don't like the stewards.

 

But they're all due to health and safety, the stewards are just doing their jobs.

 

I don't like the yellow lines, lest get rid of them. I'm also not happy about segregation or being told to sit down. I also don't like the stewards.

 

But they're all due to health and safety, the stewards are just doing their jobs.

 

I don't like the yellow lines, lest get rid of them. I'm also not happy about segregation or being told to sit down. I also don't like the stewards.

 

But they're all due to health and safety, the stewards are just doing their jobs.

 

 

 

Also best post of the thread comes from Lord Hirsty, Sponsered by Strongbow; when it comes to our stewards "elf" and safety is the correct phrase to use.

[Ebbsfleet Fan Jamie]

yeh ?

[speedo]

robbo if that what u think ur so wrong because some of us do other clubs as well but i stay at the fleet because i like talking to some of the fan's because there are fun to be round and i know that if any of the stewards got into any trouble some of them will help us out. like the millwall match

[American FLEET FAN No1]

Originally Posted By: Harry J Allstars

I love this thread...

I don't like the yellow lines, lest get rid of them. I'm also not happy about segregation or being told to sit down. I also don't like the stewards.

But they're all due to health and safety, the stewards are just doing their jobs.

I don't like the yellow lines, lest get rid of them. I'm also not happy about segregation or being told to sit down. I also don't like the stewards.

But they're all due to health and safety, the stewards are just doing their jobs.

I don't like the yellow lines, lest get rid of them. I'm also not happy about segregation or being told to sit down. I also don't like the stewards.

But they're all due to health and safety, the stewards are just doing their jobs.

I don't like the yellow lines, lest get rid of them. I'm also not happy about segregation or being told to sit down. I also don't like the stewards.

But they're all due to health and safety, the stewards are just doing their jobs.

I don't like the yellow lines, lest get rid of them. I'm also not happy about segregation or being told to sit down. I also don't like the stewards.

But they're all due to health and safety, the stewards are just doing their jobs.

I don't like the yellow lines, lest get rid of them. I'm also not happy about segregation or being told to sit down. I also don't like the stewards.

But they're all due to health and safety, the stewards are just doing their jobs.

I don't like the yellow lines, lest get rid of them. I'm also not happy about segregation or being told to sit down. I also don't like the stewards.

But they're all due to health and safety, the stewards are just doing their jobs.

I don't like the yellow lines, lest get rid of them. I'm also not happy about segregation or being told to sit down. I also don't like the stewards.

But they're all due to health and safety, the stewards are just doing their jobs.

I don't like the yellow lines, lest get rid of them. I'm also not happy about segregation or being told to sit down. I also don't like the stewards.

But they're all due to health and safety, the stewards are just doing their jobs.

I don't like the yellow lines, lest get rid of them. I'm also not happy about segregation or being told to sit down. I also don't like the stewards.

But they're all due to health and safety, the stewards are just doing their jobs.

I don't like the yellow lines, lest get rid of them. I'm also not happy about segregation or being told to sit down. I also don't like the stewards.

But they're all due to health and safety, the stewards are just doing their jobs.

I don't like the yellow lines, lest get rid of them. I'm also not happy about segregation or being told to sit down. I also don't like the stewards.

But they're all due to health and safety, the stewards are just doing their jobs.



Also best post of the thread comes from Lord Hirsty, Sponsered by Strongbow; when it comes to our stewards "elf" and safety is the correct phrase to use.

As my previous post............None of this was in the original post. The original post was about a 'youngster' having his/her feet on a yellow line, and a Steward being heavy handed and upsetting the said youngster, and speedo's escalation of it turning into a pitch invasion!
Bur why let the 'truth' of the matter get in the way of a good rant?
Bring it on!

[Stu M]

Originally Posted By: Robbo

the way it's worked is that the people who wanna enjoy themselves and make a bit of noise go behind the goal, the people who want some quiet stand down the side.

Depends how you define 'enjoyment' and 'quiet'. The only difference in noise as I see it is a drum and some anti-Canvey songs or little ditties with lots of swearing in.

That aside, the noise level is much the same I'd imagine.

[Hirsty]

Yes....very good Harry !

 

Talking of Elf/Elves....how's the beard coming along ?

 

Cheers,

[speedo]

u may have think i've escalated it american but u still don't get it, 20mm or a foot on the line's can cause the club to loose the saft certifecart than how will u have ago at the youngster, same how i don't think so u'll just have ago at us again saying we won't doing our job in the first place

[Hempstead Gaz]

If your verbal communication skills are equal to those of your written ones, it is little wonder there are problems getting the message over to the fans.

Try writing in a semblance of English - or even text speak. Even us oldies can grasp that.

But not the gobbledegook that you churn out!!

[American FLEET FAN No1]

What I understand,speedo,(having been a Safety Officer, for a large firm in Northfleet, for several years),is common sense. Encroachment into the hatched area is an offence, picking on a person for touching a line is nit picking. I have never heard of any club being closed for such(in your mind)an offence!

Being a Steward is not a highly paid job, and tends to attract poorly educated 'Jobsworths', or people who genuinely want to do a service for their club. I think it is obvious by your posts, which category applies to you!

[eufckev]

Originally Posted By: speedo

i stay at the fleet because i like talking to some of the fan's because there are fun to be round.

Aren't stewards meant to watch the crowd, instead of talking to them.

[jc]

Originally Posted By: speedo

and as for segregtion u may not think we need it and sometimes we may not but we don't know if there going to be trouble from one game to the next, so the segregation stay's, or would u like gray's or oxford to come in and cause trouble

Ah, the good old precautionary principle.

Although it's not particularly 'precautionary' when there's no away end burger bar and visiting fans can freely enter the home end to get refreshments anyway. Why then was the gate and 'exclusion zone' at the Stonebridge Road end of the away end in place for the Histon game, when those intent on causing trouble could easily find a way anyway (re. last season, when Crawley fans were 'segregated' but had no burger bar, and a drunken away supporter upturned the condiments table at the home end)?

Again (as I requested in a previous thread), an explanation of segregation arrangements when there's no burger bar at the away end would be most appreciated.

[behindthegoal]

jc - I understand that the situation you highlight is officially termed "semi-segregated"! A conflict of terms as I see it but one that results in a way supporters being able to visit "our" part of the ground to use the "facilities" but us not alowed to visit "their" part of the ground.

This situation is reserved for games seen as lowish risk in terms of trouble potential with low away support.

Anything else is fully segregated with the rare and welcome exception of non-segregated games (where in my experience there is a higher risk of agrro than at some semi-segregated games as the really low away support games usually have a higher % of nutters.)

On Saturday though it was at least very good to see the exclusion zone being moved along to the Swanscombe End goal. A big improvement!!

[mikefleet]

and seems like the midgits have gone as well, and new highvis jackets.

[behindthegoal]

...yes we are certainly getting more steward to the pound now at least in height! The long-haired onE looked quite menacing I thought too...sort of Lenny from Motorhead meets Hari Crishna.