SSMFL Bulletin No. 3 now on website

[Wader]

That reminds me Cec. I owe you a tenner for the now infamous Brimmo departure. PM me your address.

[Rhodes]

That's very good of you, you're the first to offer despite Horace clutching at straws and saying your mate might be back at Goldsdown Road by 25 December, I doubt they would have him back even if he was shown the door at Harlow Town.

[Football Man]

Originally Posted By: Rhodes

You still haven't provided evidence that 'the great' Uduma Kalu played a part for Welwyn Garden City at Kingsbury, if and when you do then the cheque will be in the post.

You placed the "wager" and the terms were yours. Therefore, it is YOUR responsibility to check whether he played or not. If you can't prove that he didn't play, then you'll have to pay up.

Incidentally, Welwyn Garden City only produced a single A4 sheet folded over as their programme for Saturday's FA Cup tie and there were no details of their game at Kingsbury in it so I couldn't help you out even if I wanted to.

[Rhodes]

Were you at the Welwyn Garden City v Bowers game on Saturday, how would you otherwise know about the programme and what was the reason for a single A4 sheet, I have to say I'm appalled, surely they will be fined for such a hienous crime.

[Lato]

as long as it fulfills the requirements of the rules of the competititon then is there a problem?

[Horace]

Apparently there's "trouble at th' mill"

[petethegreek]

Originally Posted By: Lato

as long as it fulfills the requirements of the rules of the competititon then is there a problem?

Here is the League Rule. Are they in trouble?

8. PLAYING MATCHES

8.21 The home Club is responsible for publishing a full match programme acceptable to the Board for each of its Competition matches, which must include an advertisement for the Competition sponsor(s) where directed by the Board. A team sheet will not be considered sufficient to comply with this Rule. It is not mandatory to produce a programme for matches in Division Two or the Reserve Section.
The visiting Club must send in writing to the home Club details of the proposed team they plan to field together with their Club history and up-to-date pen pictures of their current players registered with the Competition for the season at least five days before the scheduled date of the match between the two Clubs. The home Club programme must include the details sent by the visiting Club in the match day programme and a copy of each match day programme shall be sent by the home Club to the Competition (Registration) Secretary within 3 days of the match with the relevant match report form.
Clubs will be responsible for all comments in their match day programme in respect of the Competition, the Company or other member Clubs, notwithstanding any disclaimers to the contrary. No part of a Club's programme issued for a match in any competition shall, in the opinion of the Board, bring the Competition or the Company into disrepute.
All Clubs will be responsible for their official website or similar computer related information system, which is within the public domain. Nothing shall be included on the website which in the opinion of the Board brings the Competition or the Company into disrepute.

[HTFCew]

It was an FA Cup match though, so different rules apply.

[petethegreek]

Originally Posted By: HTFCew

It was an FA Cup match though, so different rules apply.

No problem.

FA Cup Rule 17.

PROGRAMME

A Programme or Team Sheet must be produced for spectators with details of both teams.

That answer the question?

[Rhodes]

Originally Posted By: Lato

as long as it fulfills the requirements of the rules of the competititon then is there a problem?

Yes but surely a single A4 sheet does not fulfil the requirements particularly for an FA Cup tie. Also Bowers fans must have been appalled on their arrival as well as any groundhoppers who chose that game to go to and who swear by obtaining programmes from the games they attend.

[petethegreek]

Did it comply with the rule?

 

If so, what's the problem?

[Rhodes]

You sound like John Bacon, there are rules and then there are football programmes!

[petethegreek]

My point is that if the club have complied to the Competition Rules, where is the problem?

 

I'm sure that if they had done anything wrong then the FA would tkae a dim view of it.

[Rhodes]

You're missing the point

[petethegreek]

Originally Posted By: Rhodes

Originally Posted By: Lato

as long as it fulfills the requirements of the rules of the competititon then is there a problem?

Yes but surely a single A4 sheet does not fulfil the requirements particularly for an FA Cup tie. Also Bowers fans must have been appalled on their arrival as well as any groundhoppers who chose that game to go to and who swear by obtaining programmes from the games they attend.

You mean this point?

[Football Man]

clip Rods, this is the pint you keep missing.

Originally Posted By: Football Man

Mind you, I haven't had the £20 cheque for my charity yet. I wonder if I'll have to wait as long as Gavin?

Deliberately, methinks. (Does anyone know the correct way of spelling schister?)

[Rhodes]

Originally Posted By: petethegreek

You mean this point?

No, I don't believe it was. What I'm trying to get at is that if, in the unlikely even, a single A4 sheet does fulfil the requirements then you have to ask yourself what Welwyn Garden City's thoughts were behind producing it as opposed to a proper programme, there must be reasoning behind it and hopefully a valid one such as their photocopier breaking down or their printers going on strike.

[Football Man]

...or the boss looking over their shoulder in the photocopier room at work... Or is that just you?

[Spidermanor]

Originally Posted By: Rhodes

Originally Posted By: petethegreek

You mean this point?

No, I don't believe it was. What I'm trying to get at is that if, in the unlikely even, a single A4 sheet does fulfil the requirements then you have to ask yourself what Welwyn Garden City's thoughts were behind producing it as opposed to a proper programme, there must be reasoning behind it and hopefully a valid one such as their photocopier breaking down or their printers going on strike.

Rhodesy lets try and break this down into very simple bite size portions, so that even someone of your minimal intellect might understand.

The match was FA Cup.

The FA Cup rules allow for a single sheet of paper to be used as a programme.

This takes into account that the clubs involved at the extra-preliminary stage may not have the resources to produce full programmes.

The programme produced was on a single sheet of paper.

This met the minimum criteria for an FA Cup tie.

The wants and needs of potential punters are immeterial as the minimum criteria was met.

End of discussion.

There you go rhodesy, let me if any of the words above were too long for you.

[Rhodes]

Originally Posted By: Spidermanor

This takes into account that the clubs involved at the extra-preliminary stage may not have the resources to produce full programmes.

The wants and needs of potential punters are immeterial as the minimum criteria was met.

Spidermanor - I could answer all your points in turn but I will pick up on just two if I may. Firstly your well intended theory may apply to the FA Vase but not the higher profile FA Cup.
Secondly you also miss the point like Petethegreek did, if you were a Football Man through and through, and lived by the Shankly quote, you would know where I was coming from, rules are immaterial where football programmes are concerned.