like in the.....

[coach et 64]

ancient Greece the Sophists used to show you the other side of the coin....

 

Saturday, 11th August Essex Senior League

Barkingside 3 vs Hullbridge Sports 1

 

On a bright sunny afternoon at Oakside it was Barkingside it was Barkingside who started the season on a high with a fine win over Hullbridge Sports.

 

It was an important victory for Tony Fenn, Kris Taylor and their staff as a mixture of players from last season and exciting new signings blended together to produce a flowing performance that was well worthy of the win.

 

The first competitive goal at Oakside came after just 8 minutes, Lance McDowell’s whipped in corner was to much for Richard Mann in the Hullbridge goal to handle and Paul Kavanagh was on hand at the back post to volley home.

 

Then on 14 minutes Mark Benterman lost his marker to meet Anthony Reeves cross to equalise for the visitors.

 

The Side management team were furious at this lapse and their words were heard as the lead was restored 3 minutes later, an interchange of four passes saw Mark Steadman break clear with great pace and his cleaver finish was to good for the advancing Mann.

 

Greg Thompson was in dynamic form and he had a chance to double the lead just before half time as he went close with a long range effort that just skimmed the cross bar.

 

The second half started with a bang as substitute Brad Foley rose above all to head home Jamie Langtons perfect corner on 47 minutes. This effectively was game over. Side remained in control as they endeavoured to not concede further and to conserve energy in the searing heat.

 

After the game Side joint manager said “we’ve gone quietly about out business this close season while others have grabbed the headlines, we think we’ve got it just about right on balance throughout our squad and it was there for all to see today, we are very pleased to get off to a good start.”

 

The Barkingside line up Clark; Jamie Langton (Russell); Kavanagh; Bly; Frew; Thompson; Harkins; Foley C; Steadman; Doyle; McDowell (Foley

Subs not used. Tallon; Taylor; Newcomb.

 

Plenty of immagination and flair on the goals.... might be Rich m and his mates that played can give a better version of events.Anyway everyone tries to bring grist to his own mill

[coach et 64]

just for the less cultured ones.... definition of sophists..

 

Sophists

 

The growing demand for education in 5th century BCE. Greece called into existence a class of teachers known as sophists. They were a professional class rather than a school, and as such they were scattered over Greece and exhibited professional rivalries. The educational demand was partly for genuine knowledge, but mostly reflected a desire for spurious learning that would lead to political success. They wandered about Greece from place to place, gave lectures, took pupils, and entered into disputations. For these services they exacted large fees, and were, in fact, the first in Greece to take fees for teaching wisdom. Though not disgraceful in itself, the wise men of Greece had never accepted payment for their teaching. The sophists were not, technically speaking, philosophers, but, instead taught any subject for which there was a popular demand. Topics included rhetoric, politics, grammar, etymology, history, physics, and mathematics. Early on they were seen as teachers of virtue in the sense that they taught people to perform their function in the state. Protagoras of Abdera, who appeared about 445 BCE. is named as the first Sophist; after him the most important is Gorgias of Leontini, Prodicus of Ceos and Hippias of Elis. Wherever they appeared, especially in Athens, they were received with enthusiasm and many flocked to hear them. Even such people as Pericles, Euripides, and Socrates sought their company.

 

The most popular career of a Greek of ability at the time was politics; hence the sophists largely concentrated on teaching rhetoric. The aims of the young politicians whom they trained were to persuade the multitude of whatever they wished them to believed. The search for truth was not top priority. Consequently the sophists undertook to provide a stock of arguments on any subject, or to prove any position. They boasted of their ability to make the worse appear the better reason, to prove that black is white. Some, like Gorgias, asserted that it was not necessary to have any knowledge of a subject to give satisfactory replies as regards it. Thus, Gorgias ostentatiously answered any question on any subject instantly and without consideration. To attain these ends mere quibbling, and the scoring of verbal points were employed. In this way, the sophists tried to entangle, entrap, and confuse their opponents, and even, if this were not possible, to beat them down by mere violence and noise. They sought also to dazzle by means of strange or flowery metaphors, by unusual figures of speech, by epigrams and paradoxes, and in general by being clever and smart, rather than earnest and truthful. Hence our word "sophistry": the use of fallacious arguments knowing them to be such. Early on Sophists were seen to be of merit as people of superior skill or wisdom, as we find in Pindar and Herodotus. We learn from Plato, though, that even in the 5th century there was a prejudice against the name "sophist". By Aristotle's time, the name bore a contemptuous meaning, as he defines "sophist" as one who reasons falsely for the sake of gain.

 

With the revival of Greek eloquence, from about the beginning of the second century CE., the name "sophist" attained a new distinction. At that time the name was given to the professional orators, who appeared in public with great pomp and delivered declamations either prepared beforehand or improvised on the spot. Like the earlier sophists, they went generally from place to place, and were overwhelmed with applause and with marks of distinction by their contemporaries, including the Roman Emperors. Dion Chrysostom, Herodes Atticus, Aristides, Lucian, and Philostratus the Elder belong to the flourishing period of this second school of sophists, a period which extends over the entire second century. They appear afresh about the middle of the fourth century, devoting their philosophic culture to the zealous but unavailing defense of paganism. Among them was the emperor Julian and his contemporaries Libanius, Himerius, and Themistius. Synesius may be considered the last sophist of importance.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Uncle Urchin]

ah right then...

 

that all explains why you lost on saturday....

[MCP]

thats far too intelligent for me

[Uncle Urchin]

not if you read it slowly....nowt ever changes...

 

clever coachey post as it goes...

[coach et 64]

at least someone on the same wavelength..

[coach et 64]

Originally Posted By: MCP

thats far too intelligent for me

i'm sorry MCP,i tried to put it in a philosophical way so we don't upset anyone.. sorry mate i'll try my best to translate it in plain English.. you know i do hate jargon

[Uncle Urchin]

Originally Posted By: coach et 64

Originally Posted By: MCP

thats far too intelligent for me

i'm sorry MCP,i tried to put it in a philosophical way so we don't upset anyone.. sorry mate i'll try my best to translate it in plain English.. you know i do hate jargon

don't try to hard coachey...he is from romford after all.....

[coach et 64]

good plebeians with an eye for sharing things...

[Beachboys]

So Barkingside aint that good then ?

[kattyann]

better than Holebridge obviously

[Hookey]

Hey Coachie, you need a result on Friday night, even if it's only a draw. Otherwise you could be the FIRST club in the WHOLE country to go out of the FA Cup!!!!

[Beachboys]

He He !

[Big_d]

wait for the bite

[coach et 64]

we could be the first one to get through then

[coach et 64]

Originally Posted By: crfcboss

So Barkingside aint that good then ?

well as they said it was a good win....last night 0-0 with Bowers spankers Barking so they ain't bad and they go quiet about their results...no fancy pictures in the paper

[Hookey]

Originally Posted By: coach et 64

we could be the first one to get through then

That's the spirit Rico!

Either way, an ESL team could be the first through or the first out!!!!

[coach et 64]

Originally Posted By: Uncle Urchin

ah right then...

that all explains why you lost on saturday....

another Sophist...the Southend times

HULLBRIDGE SPORTS were undone by a bumpy pitch and some clinical finishing on the part of opponents barkingside,as they lost 3-1.Twice an unusual bounce deceived a Sports player to allow the home team a route to goal in the first period,and twice they made the most of their opportunity.There was a hint of off-side about the first incident,but once the ball had been played in from the right,the Hullbridge stopper seemed certain to gather.However,he had not anticipated the height the ball would rise,and could only watch as the ball looped over his head and landed for Barkingside Steadman to finish with aplomb.Hullbridge peppered the home goal with shots in response,and eventually got their leveller when a fine move allowed Benterman to smash home from close range.The lead didn't last long however,and when a similar fate to his keeper befell a Sports defender ,it was Kavanagh who profited to reinstate his team's advantadge.The visitors would not recover this time and foley's strike two minutes after the restart sealed their opening day fate.Hullbridge's league cup opponents are Concord and their fa cup rivals are stansted.

[kattyann]

[quote=coach et 64

HULLBRIDGE SPORTS were undone by a bumpy pitch

 

R U JOKING U ITALIAN IDIOT!!!!!!

 

my dad's gonna have a great laugh at that one!!

 

Got to hand it to u tho - an excellent thought of excuse

[MCP]

tbf to coachie isn't that from the papers report