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Well, folks you have the patience of Job and I respect you all for that ! I am now delighted to welcome on board, thanks to the good offices of the Essex and London F A's , our 17th and final team in the Constitution for season 2007-8 ... the newly " Senior " .... Mauritius Sports & Pennant FC who will be ground sharing at Aveley and Managed by two pretty well known faces in the Senior League, Micky Leslie and Tony Mercer . I am sure you will all wish them well and one League Cup section will now have five clubs , that section will be advised on 15th July. This has not affected the issue of fixtures which cannot be actioned until we receive the Step 4 fixtures and they don't come out until mid July so as you have all proven to be so patient I trust you can wait a little longer. The History and Statistical Record of the ESL from 1971-2007 by Keith Roe has now gone to print and should be ready in about 2-3 weeks - its a biggy and has a brilliant cover !

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Mauritius Sports, formerly Mauritius Sports (CMB), have come from the Middlesex County League. (CMB stands for Carnaux Metalbox, by the way).

 

Pennant FC were originally a London Spartan League club playing at Wadham Lodge. When the original Walthamstow Avenue folded, they changed their name to Walthamstow Pennant. When Wingate pulled out of Leyton-Wingate, the bulk of the Leyton club merged with Walthamstow Pennant (although a group stayed behind to keep the Leyton name going and that is the club now playing in the Ryman Premier) and became Leyton Pennant before changing their name to Waltham Forest a couple of years back. When Leyton Pennant were formed, a new Walthamstow Pennant emerged and played on the outside pitch at Wadham Lodge in the Middlesex County League. The new Walthamstow Pennant side didn't last very long but, on their demise, another Middlesex County League side, Leyton County (who had been groundsharing the outside pitch at Wadham Lodge) took over the name Walthamstow Pennant. After one season, they merged with the reformed Walthamstow Avenue (2000) and, for the last two seasons, had played at Town Mead in Waltham Abbey under the name Walthamstow Avenue & Pennant, still in the Middlesex County League.

 

What isn't clear, at this stage, is whether it is the Pennant bit of this club that have broken away from Avenue to join forces with Mauritius Sports, and left the Town Mead club to revert back to Walthamstow Avenue, or whether there has been a committee split with some staying at Walthamstow and some joining Mauritius. Maybe LC can shed some light on this?

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as i thought coup.I have moaned about the ground grading situation before.Teams are being killed with these ridiculous laws.I mean,you can be chucked out of certain leagues for not painting yellow lines in some areas.It really is stupid.

Saying that,i blame the scousers!!

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The ground grading rules are ludicrous at all levels of non-league. On one hand I don't have much sympathy for a club that simply ignores, overlooks or forgets a rule, even (especially?) if it's something as simple as yellow lines.

 

What I object to are over harsh penalties - for example a club should be given a week or something to add the yellow lines, and face a fairly stiff fine if they don't. Great bug fine if the y still don't do it Not chucked out of a league for the first offence!

 

Secondly the standards are way too high. What is the point of a 150 seater stand and 300 covered terraces places for a club that barely gets a gate of 100? Why have to have a seter stand at all in the ESL when most clubs get a gate of less than 50? EWven Conference standards are too high - 4000 capacity for an average gate of 1500? It's all wasted money that could be better spent on bogs etc for the small number that do come. the actual playing facilities (the whole point of the game!) and youth and womens teams etc.

 

Thirdly, there should more help and understanding in upgrading for promoted clubs. It's madness forcing clubs to spend money on stands (that won't be used - see above) on the chance that they'll be promoted. Let's have at least a season's grace and how about a few more grants, when Prem players are demanding over 100 grand a WEEK and transfer fees are over 20 million!

 

End of rant....

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Originally Posted By: The Invisible Man
The ground grading rules are ludicrous at all levels of non-league. On one hand I don't have much sympathy for a club that simply ignores, overlooks or forgets a rule, even (especially?) if it's something as simple as yellow lines.

What I object to are over harsh penalties - for example a club should be given a week or something to add the yellow lines, and face a fairly stiff fine if they don't. Great bug fine if the y still don't do it Not chucked out of a league for the first offence!

Secondly the standards are way too high. What is the point of a 150 seater stand and 300 covered terraces places for a club that barely gets a gate of 100? Why have to have a seter stand at all in the ESL when most clubs get a gate of less than 50? EWven Conference standards are too high - 4000 capacity for an average gate of 1500? It's all wasted money that could be better spent on bogs etc for the small number that do come. the actual playing facilities (the whole point of the game!) and youth and womens teams etc.

Thirdly, there should more help and understanding in upgrading for promoted clubs. It's madness forcing clubs to spend money on stands (that won't be used - see above) on the chance that they'll be promoted. Let's have at least a season's grace and how about a few more grants, when Prem players are demanding over 100 grand a WEEK and transfer fees are over 20 million!

End of rant....
Erm the bit about the conference Vizzy Re 4,000 capacity , Quite often these clubs get into the F A cup and have long runs in the FA trophy ,I think its why they need the greater ground criteria for when the bigger clubs visit them. Remember Tamworth' run last season or even salisbury v Nott'm Forest .
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Originally Posted By: Brewerytown
I agree about ground grading, two grounds we visited last season prove the point, Worthing United(ask Lge Chairman) and Oxhey Jets. How they got senior status is beyond me, they are downright dangerous.


well at least they have their own ground and don't wander around looking to lay their eggs in someone else's nest...

lose both of those games did you...? grin
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