Paul Kelleher, 37,

[ESG]

The sentencing of that bloke is debatable.

What is it with blokes that support Thatcher and pontificate about rising crime and the decline of moral values in our society?

What is a moral value?` Locking up an indigent bloke because society cares so [censored] little about war and [censored] poverty in our midst while sqandering billions of pounds on military toys in some [censored] adventure in Iraq. So blokes can award themselves medals everytime they fart in the direction of an enemy. Wars just aint like thy used to be.

Now it's all cowards pushing buttons and watching the technology do all the work.

It uneases me that at any moment some [censored] psycho like bush is capable of ultimately ending civilization as we no it. And [censored] Thatcher and her glitterballed lunacy, if anyone thinks she was any friend of football fans you obviously wear a floral hat live in Cheltenham and think George Bush is the second coming.

Thatcher is a woman that blamed fotball fans for the fire at Bradford and wanted everyone arrested that attended that sad sad event at Hillsborough.

The [censored] slag supported Pinochete a bloke that makes Saddam Hussien seem like a nursery assistant.

I could go on, but do I need to? GET A GRIP!

UP THE SPRINGBOX!

[Colin Zeal EFM]

You can't go around smashing up statues of ex-World Leaders, I'm afraid. It just ain't cricket.

 

Don't worry - he'll be out by Easter.

 

 

[CANV EFM]

if he had merely stolen it brandishing a kitchen knife and confessed to 42 previous's he'd be out by now. working for the government somewhere with a free house to help with his rehabilitation

[ESG]

 

http://www.contrast.org/hillsborough/

[CANV EFM]

ugh i cant read all that.. cant you summarise it for me SSL?

[ESG]

basically all about Hillsborough......

 

The history of Hillsborough begins with the deaths of 96 people and the physical and mental injury of countless others.

However it does not end there. The enormity of the Disaster goes beyond even this.

Hillsborough becomes a metaphor for British society today. It is a microcosm of how society operates. Viewed in this way the history of Hillsborough becomes the history of injustice, of cover-up, and collusion.

History will record 'Hillsborough' firmly within the bounds of civil rights, and the bereaved and survivors of the Disaster will long be remembered for the heroic stances they took against the might of bureaucratic forces in the name of justice.

What follows is a chronological outline of what exactly happened on the 15th April 1989 at Hillsborough and the aftermath...

The build up to the Disaster >

To read and hear accounts from the survivors of the Disaster, the families of those who lost their loved ones and the Liverpool team on the day

[CANV EFM]

far to depressing for me today i'll give it a shot tomorrow.. i always had the coppers done as grossly incompetent but really put the blame on all the tossers doing the serious pushing

[Laz]

SSL, go and have a beer!

[Colin Zeal EFM]

It was the fences that killed them, unfortunately. That, and the people who took back-handers on the turnstiles.

 

 

[Laz]

Have you ever seen Scousers entering a football stadium?

They usually bunk under the turnstiles. I've seen them in action.

[ESG]

you forgot about them pissing on corspes as well (didn't you?)

 

............april 11 1981

 

mines a nelson

[GHA EFM]

Stella

 

(wrong thread again, sorry)

[The Lyrical Tarantula]

wish someone would take a cricket bat to the real Thatcher!

[EFM's Librarian]

Hillsborough is a very interesting subject with regard to CZ's favourite 'news'paper, as I'm sure you're all aware. Perhaps a reminder is necessary of the fact that it was your wonderful rag that claimed that liverpool fans were pissing on policemen and corpses, and stealing from corpses and then refused to apologise when it was subsequently proved that this was all nonsense. Oh sorry I forgot, the Sun never gets anything wrong, does it?

[The Lyrical Tarantula]

And Richard Littlejohn is also a credit to paper and not a twat!

[CANV EFM]

please stay calm... some one pushed the wall over... someone shoved people into a fence in shefield.. the common denominator is????????????

[CANV EFM]

someone did something that contributed to many disasters.... lets not blame the people who are supposed to be in charge for the reactions of the mob....

[CANV EFM]

mm seems i was talking to myself last night .. and looking at the nature of the posts it seems that last night i was 'indignant moral drunk man'.. excellent..

[Colin Zeal EFM]

Quote:

And Richard Littlejohn is also a credit to paper and not a twat!

Today's Littlejohn, just for you, Thornsy!!...



MEN IN WIGS AND THE MAGIC WORDS by Richard Littlejohn

EARLIER this week Simon Barnes, senior producer on my Sky News TV show, travelled to Hampstead to try to persuade a Taliban member given asylum in Britain to come in to the studio to explain himself.

The man wasn’t co-operative and his English was poor.

It was clear he didn’t want to come out to play but Simon persisted.

Eventually, the man reached for his mobile phone and told Simon that he was going to ring “human rights”.

And with those magic words, all his troubles would be over.

As I have said before, the European “human rights” convention is one of the most wicked pieces of legislation ever brought into British law.

Some of us warned that it was little more than a charter for terrorists, gangsters, illegal immigrants, drugs dealers and a goldmine for lawyers.

We were predictably dismissed as racists, Little Englanders, enemies of justice, blah blah blah.

But time and again we have been proved right. And it just keeps on coming.

We can’t send back members of the Taliban, even though we are still, technically, at war with them in Afghanistan.

They were part of one of the most brutal, oppressive regimes on earth but we can’t deport or even detain them.

Under the “human rights” laws we have to put them up in a council flat and shower them with benefits.

Home Secretary David Blunkett has, to his credit, tried to sort out the asylum chaos and stop the abuse.

But he is thwarted at every turn by the Men In Wigs, who take a perverse delight in overruling elected politicians.

This week Mr Justice Collins kicked out Blunkett’s plans to deter illegal immigrants by denying them benefits.

Collins ruled that would be a breach of their “human rights”.

The same judge had previously ruled that we could not kick out nine al-Qa’ida terror suspects or detain asylum seekers behind locked doors at accommodation centres.

Blunkett will appeal against this latest verdict. But he’s on a hiding to nothing unless Britain withdraws completely from the “human rights” convention and the 1951 convention on refugees.

Tony Blair was panicked a couple of weeks ago into promising to look at pulling out. But, as I explained at the time, it ain’t gonna happen — not least because the Wicked Witch wouldn’t let him.

Lawyers like the WW are filling their boots from “human rights”. The bill for lawyers, translators and legal aid in asylum cases alone has trebled to £260million a year.

Asylum, bogus or otherwise, is costing us all in the region of £2billion.

Under the “human rights” act, we have no right to decide who lives in this country. We are expected to house, feed and pay benefits to anyone who turns up and utters the magic words.

Judges take no account of the will of Parliament or the will of the British people.

Until we make them accountable, nothing is going to change.

I’ve always believed that if judges want to play politics, they should have to stand for election.

But they think they’re above all that. They’d rather hide behind their wigs.

Since we couldn’t get the Taliban in to the studio, we thought we’d ask Mr Justice Collins instead.

If he thinks he has more right to decide what’s in the interests of the British people than those we elect to govern us, perhaps he’d like to come on the show and explain why.

He wasn’t playing ball, either.

It’s probably a breach of his “human rights”.

www.thesun.co.uk


Footnote to AFF - they're Mr Littlejohn's words, not mine.

[CANV EFM]

aahhh .. the cold steel sword of reality