GarySTFC Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 Well, at the moment I have no idea if the Trust are hoping the club fold so that they can take it over or if they are planning on helping out to keep it afloat? And yes, I fully appreciate I am not signed up to the Trust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 And why not? Ted slaps Gary with a large trout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarySTFC Posted March 14, 2007 Author Share Posted March 14, 2007 Because we'd be a season without football if it were to happen this summer, and my understanding of the Trust setup, aside from community links, was to help the club? Yes I appreciate it's not in the best condition, but I'd rather the club was kept afloat and in a position to be built back up than starting up at the bottom with no potential to get back to where we are now, let alone anything else. You can stick your trout you green ginat.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Scott Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 Originally Posted By: GarySTFC Well, at the moment I have no idea if the Trust are hoping the club fold so that they can take it over or if they are planning on helping out to keep it afloat? And yes, I fully appreciate I am not signed up to the Trust. I'm not signed up either for precisely that reason. the trust have made no plans for the future of the club should the need arise for three years and I won't re-join until they do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 Gary,the why not was about being a trust member. What I picked up from the meeting was that the trust are looking at contingency plans should the worst happen, but that everyone hopes it won't. The meeting was really all about seeking input as to what the trust should do if......a variety of situations happened. No one wanted the club to fold, but views were sought as to what the trust should do if that did happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarySTFC Posted March 14, 2007 Author Share Posted March 14, 2007 Personally, I don't see what I would gain from being a member of the Trust and sadly much of the support which comes in through the turnstile feels the same given that only around half, if that, who attend matches are signed up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 I think that too many people believe that there is a magic wand out there somewhere, and that all that need happen is for someone to come along and wave it and all will be well. There are no quick and easy solutions for anyone here. Not for Roy, not for Wilko, not for the fans and not for the trust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarySTFC Posted March 15, 2007 Author Share Posted March 15, 2007 There is no simple fix at all, but club, manager, fans and trust will all need to be singing from the same songsheet if we're going to get out of this mess. At the moment, I think that is very far from the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brighton_rebel Posted March 15, 2007 Share Posted March 15, 2007 Personally i'm finding it hard to sing from the same song sheet as those that run the club. If half our regular support are Trust members then that's a very good take up. I thought it looked like a good EGM meeting with lots of debate, and i can't get my head round people like Gary not being members, Just the Trust being in existance is surely a contengency plan if the club fold; why make battle plans until you know they will be definetly needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorshamRebel Posted March 15, 2007 Share Posted March 15, 2007 Warren, I thought it was only texts you sent out with not enough letters on. Above initially said "I" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brighton_rebel Posted March 15, 2007 Share Posted March 15, 2007 edited, so people won't know what you mean! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Posted March 15, 2007 Share Posted March 15, 2007 Not enough letters on would be good at least we would have a rough idea what Warren is on about, its the blank ones that get me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brighton_rebel Posted March 15, 2007 Share Posted March 15, 2007 i'll explain it to you Sue slowly on saturday, once i've had a few drinks.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Posted March 15, 2007 Share Posted March 15, 2007 So Gary/Liam, do you think the Trust should be handing over sums of Trust money to pay things like player fines and for "luxury" coaches to Folkestone/Ramsgate? If you were members of the Trust then you would have been able to give your views at the EGM. Do you think the Trust should form a breakaway club like Enfield? If you were members of the Trust you would have been able to give your views at the EGM. The Trust board represents the Trust members and the purpose of the EGM was to hear what the membership wanted us to do to best represent their interests in terms of the football club. Your not members, that doesn't stop you airing your views but your not the one who has to sit there and vote on these issues when you've got one camp saying if we say no the club might fold and we will have at least a year without football and the other side saying we are throwing trust money into a bottomless hole which reaps us no rewards. When I read comments like yours on the web - I really do think sod it. Why should I bother giving up my time to attend trust meetings when I'm going there and representing the views of people I agree with who can't even be bothered to pay 10 [****!!****] pound to join the Trust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarySTFC Posted March 15, 2007 Author Share Posted March 15, 2007 At the moment neither the club "songsheet" or the Trust "songsheet" is one I agree with, so abiding by one or the other isn't totally right. We do need changes in the club to stop thinking we're a big club. We're not, and we need to start budgeting like a Brook House rather than a Conference South side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Scott Posted March 15, 2007 Share Posted March 15, 2007 It's precisely because the Trust have given the club money that have convinced me that I'm not going to bother joining it. For three years before this season the trust did nothing, said nothing and communicated nothing to its members. If the Trust is planning to take over the club, is there a plan in place? Sure its very nice Sliski and his yes men saying that there is but unless its written down is just more hot air. Barely any of these semi-regular meeting minutes are made available and one solitary EGM a year and that's it. How [****!!****] hard is it to type up a set of minutes for these Thursday meetings is it? Why did the Trust membership have to find out through Chinese whispers that they had paid a weeks wages to the players? Now it seems that the Trust is essentially now an emergency fund when there is a lack of money by whatever d1ckheads are running the club, so again what is the [****!!****] point of the trust? Tell me, and I might reconsider my position but I have heard and seen absolutely NOTHING that gives me any confidence that anyone knows what the f*ck they are doing and quite frankly I'm even beginning to think that my eight quid a week could be spent better elsewhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Posted March 15, 2007 Share Posted March 15, 2007 We do need to start budgeting like Brook House but the Trust has no control over the budget of the club. So what do you personally think the Trust should be doing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Scott Posted March 15, 2007 Share Posted March 15, 2007 well, doing more than its presently doing to get hold of whichever idiot is running the club and finding out what his plans are for next season for starters. It might be a good thing to remind him that there's five months until next season starts and we don't have anywhere to play yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Posted March 15, 2007 Share Posted March 15, 2007 Asking the questions is easy - getting clear straightforward answers that can be relied on is not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarySTFC Posted March 15, 2007 Author Share Posted March 15, 2007 What should the Trust planning on doing? Here's two. - Working with the club not against them. By this I don't mean handing over all the money they have so it can be wasted, but to look at things they can take on to help with the running of the club, things which have receipts and can be accounted - matchday officials for example. The trust has to get some experience in running the club somehow. This should help get some input into how things are done. At least I would hope it would. - Communicating to its members. For some reason it's ok for the likes of Hendon to openly publish notes of meetings but not ours? I know the whole club has some sort of web phobia, but I can't understand the logic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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