Malcolm

[Guest]

I would like to point out that I know Malcolm does alot at the club and is appreciated. It was quite startling to find out how much he actually does. Maybe at the beginning of next season we could advertise all these jobs and see who is willing to pick up some of the jobs and see what is left. I don't mind helping out when needed. I have worked in the shop and on the turn styles this year. Sometimes the help is just needed.

 

It's a shame the supporters club is not a strong as it use to be because the idea of the supporters running a (even a mini bus) coach would probably be a great idea.

 

Humpty

[zoom]

Originally Posted By: Windsor_Sec

I don't think there's any sort of 'You're just supporters' attitude from anyone within the club as the club wouldn't exist without the support whether it be just paying your entry fee on a match day through to those that give up their time to do more!
The simple fact is that there are lots of small jobs that could be easily handled by a number of people instead of one or two people taking everything on and getting no thanks for it at all.
The situation with the coach to Paulton was, I felt, explained quite clearly last week but, to reiterate, we were told they only had a 35 available and then turned up with a 52, without the benefit of a crystal ball I can't see what we could have done about it!
For those that did make it to Paulton I hope you had the opportunity to read the article they had reproduced from a recent Dicot Town programme where the club was asking for help around the club as they couldn't see how they were ever going to progress up the non-league ladder if more people didn't get involved. It was an interesting [and sad] article that should open a few peoples' eyes! If you take into account the superb facilities at Didcot, couple with their recent successes and still find out they're struggling purely on a manpower basis it makes you sit up and wonder about the future for a lot of non-league clubs!.

Sorry but nobody forces anyone to do anything for the football club. If anyones taken on too much then thats down to them and if it's causing problems they can always step aside. I remember in the early 90's when there were dozens of us willing to help out on matchday beit selling programmes, making tea or whatever and concerns were raised at the time because too many people were doing various tasks.

[Hammerman]

With only a few games being over an hours drive away.

We were told that coaches would be made available.

How much extra would it cost to make it a 52 seater for certain games. ie Newport (IOW), Lymington etc.

 

Secondly to the slough fan. We only usually have about 20 people that go away regularly and some of them drive. So to have a coach for supporters is a bit pointless.

We mainly have about 12 people that would use the coach.

 

To Malc. I think you do a good job on the website but you can give off an atitude of a your just a supporter.

Also the league table has been out of date for ages.

I know you do lots of good work and long may it continue.

[zoom]

Originally Posted By: mal316

Originally Posted By: zoom

I respect what Malcolm does for the club and this website of course. I would submit however that people do not appreciate the "your just supporters" impression that is picked up where Mr Williams is concerned. I've been going to games just as long as our webmaster, have worked behind the bar at the club both paid and voluntarily, have worked on the clubs lottery, have given up my time to put up fixture posters in and around the town and various other things down the years. Do i give it the large ones to anyone who hasn't done those things, no i don't because we all pulling together in our own way to help the club as we see fit.

Zoom, I have never given it large, a you put it, about what I do at the club. I have always done whatever I can to help the club run smoothly because there are usually very few people who will speak up and offer their services.

Originally Posted By: zoom

As someone else pointed out, is it healthy to have one individual with so many fingers in so mnay pies? For example i've heard down the years that many people have tried to get involved with the website and our webmaster has always sought to keep complete control. Great for a webmasters CV, but perhaps not so great when we have to wait 3 days for match reports and up to date fixture info.

Firstly, yes people have offered to help with the site and I have always been thankful to anyone who wants to contribute any work to the site that they want to send me. I have never turned anyone away from helping with the site, but whenever anyone does offer they never follow it through. As for late match reports, yes one or two do take a cople of days to upload but this is normally due to geting back from games in the early hours of the morning, then going to work the next day and also having a life outside of the club. Also the fixture information is always upto date except straight after a game and when I am waiting for the re-arranged dates from Steve.

Originally Posted By: zoom

Sorry Mr Webmaster but if you put yourself forward to run things then you deserve the respect and kudos when things go well but also the backlash when things go pear-shaped and yes that does include fans frustration when they see a 50+ seater turn up having been told there will be no coach.

As for the coach I suggest that you get your facts straight before coming on here and trying to take the piss out of me. The coach was ordered by Steve Rowland and he ordered a 35 seater coach which was what was relayed to me. How can I do anything about a coach which is ordered as a 35 seater and turns up as a 52 seater. I'll tell you what, next time I will waste my phone bill and phone all the supporters and see if they want to rush to the club and get on the coach!

No you have given it large Malcolm and thats not just my opinion either, Simon Lane spoke to me after the Cinderford Town game on the very subject so if he notices how things MAY come across to us true supporters then obviously other people are going to, so think on.

I accept what you say about the coach, but i can assure you Malcolm that saturday there were some very unhappy chappies who feel they are constantly messed about so trying directing your angst where it's needed.

As for the website i acknowledged your work here but strange how there seems to be absolutely nobody else out there who has either the know-how or the dedication to enable you to share the workload. Could it be that actually you don't want the site taken out of your control? Fine Mr webmaster if thats what you want but wouldn't it just save alot of time if you put that on the record?

Am i to take it that nobody connected with the club can be questioned or criticised in a reasonable fashion as whenever anyone does on this site we have you, the club sec, "Big" JR and the like pulling ranks. Sorry if that deflates your collective ego's but there's alot of us not happy with things at the club this season. We've no playable pitch, a manger that also gives it large but as of yet can not match the talk with performances, problems with suporters getting on coaches and all set against decades of promises and tittle-tattle where promises have been made about new stands, club houses and training pitches. None of which have been delivered.

Ps Malcolm the day you make a first team appearance is the day i throw my lot in with slough.

[Windsor_Sec]

Pinksy, the previous poster has no official capacity within our club but is involved with another club and is pointing out that it's not just us that struggle for help.

And you're right, no one forces anyone to do jobs around the club but the jobs have to be done nonetheless and if they're not done the club doesn't function, therefore there is some pressure to do those jobs knowing that the end result is no club!

I'll bow down to your obviously better memory as I can't recall ever having had too many volunteers at the club - I do remember having lots of volunteers with only a few doing anything [including yourself] and the rest never actually being available on match-days when actually asked to do something!

I'll give an example of four jobs that spring to mind, if anyone's interested talk to me at a game or at the club for more details.

1. Security at the players' entrance X 2 people required.

2. Matchday raffles.

3. Someone to take the money for seating in the stand.

None of these involve missing watching the football but would help the club in terms of security and fundraising.

[mal316]

Originally Posted By: zoom

No you have given it large Malcolm and thats not just my opinion either, Simon Lane spoke to me after the Cinderford Town game on the very subject so if he notices how things MAY come across to us true supporters then obviously other people are going to, so think on.

I stand by my comment of 'never giving it large'. I have always worked to try and help make this club as good as it can be along with the help of many other people. Also, to try and make out that I am not a true supporter when I have served on the supporters club for the past five years and have given so much time over the past 16 years for no reward, I must not be a supporter of any kind.

Originally Posted By: zoom

I accept what you say about the coach, but i can assure you Malcolm that saturday there were some very unhappy chappies who feel they are constantly messed about so trying directing your angst where it's needed.

If you accept what happened with the coach then why carry on about it. If they have a problem about it then they should go and seak to the person who deals with ordering them because that is not me.

Originally Posted By: zoom

As for the website i acknowledged your work here but strange how there seems to be absolutely nobody else out there who has either the know-how or the dedication to enable you to share the workload. Could it be that actually you don't want the site taken out of your control? Fine Mr webmaster if thats what you want but wouldn't it just save alot of time if you put that on the record?[/qoute]

I never said that there was no one out their that couldn't do anything to help. What I said was that people have come to me in the past and offered to supply me with items for the site but they have never delivered. If you want names then I will supply them but I don't see why I should list them just for your amusment.

Am i to take it that nobody connected with the club can be questioned or criticised in a reasonable fashion as whenever anyone does on this site we have you, the club sec, "Big" JR and the like pulling ranks. Sorry if that deflates your collective ego's but there's alot of us not happy with things at the club this season. We've no playable pitch, a manger that also gives it large but as of yet can not match the talk with performances, problems with suporters getting on coaches and all set against decades of promises and tittle-tattle where promises have been made about new stands, club houses and training pitches. None of which have been delivered.

Everyone is entitled to an opinion and no one has pulled rank. The biggest problem is people trying to pass comment on something that they know nothing about. Yes the pitch has caused probems but do you know the story why? Yes recently the performances have not been the best but have you taken into account the missing players. Plans were displayed for a new stand, clubhouse and training pitch but these will not happen until the money is available.

Stop trying to create problems and start trying to help with the solutions!!

[mal316]

Originally Posted By: zoom

Sorry but nobody forces anyone to do anything for the football club. If anyones taken on too much then thats down to them and if it's causing problems they can always step aside. I remember in the early 90's when there were dozens of us willing to help out on matchday beit selling programmes, making tea or whatever and concerns were raised at the time because too many people were doing various tasks.

Your are correct, nobody forces me to do what I do at the club and I have not taken on too much or causing myself problems.

I do what I do at the club because I enjoy it.

What is causing the problems are people like you coming on here and trying to [****!!****] stir!!

[Guest]

Windsor Sec. I am willing to run a raffle if you wish.

[Guest]

Windsor Sec. I am willing to run a raffle if you wish.

 

Humpty

[Martin]

Originally Posted By: Hammerman

Secondly to the slough fan. We only usually have about 20 people that go away regularly and some of them drive. So to have a coach for supporters is a bit pointless.
We mainly have about 12 people that would use the coach.

Well perhaps run a minibus then? It does not take a lot to build up a relationship with a hire company in order to ensure that you can get a decent rate on the hire of a minibus every other week.

[Windsor_Sec]

Thanks Humpty, see me at Lymington on Wednesday and we'll have a chat about it.

[Guest]

Well done Humpty,

 

True supporters arent just those who pay to get into matches.

 

Malcolm, Steve and Geggy (plus others) have not paid to get into a game for a while, but the fact that they probably havent missed a home or away game for a number of years(without a very good reason)prove that they are as 'true' and those that pay every week.

 

I think its really sad that we have to debate this as we only have a small number of fans and the last thing we need is a them and us scenario.

 

Some people maybe of the opinion that Malcolm deos everything and wont let anyones else help, but there have been times where people have offered and then not delivered. I personally would rather have someone like Mal that may be delayed in updating things, BUT will keep doing jobs year after year.

 

Dan - (Not a true supporter as I dont pay to get in).

 

[Guest]

Sorry Steve but I won't be at the Lymington game due to work but the next game I will make sure I come and see you about this.

 

Humpty

[zoom]

Originally Posted By: mal316

Originally Posted By: zoom

Sorry but nobody forces anyone to do anything for the football club. If anyones taken on too much then thats down to them and if it's causing problems they can always step aside. I remember in the early 90's when there were dozens of us willing to help out on matchday beit selling programmes, making tea or whatever and concerns were raised at the time because too many people were doing various tasks.

Your are correct, nobody forces me to do what I do at the club and I have not taken on too much or causing myself problems.

I do what I do at the club because I enjoy it.

What is causing the problems are people like you coming on here and trying to [****!!****] stir!!

Blah blah.