Woking Thread

[Harry J Allstars]

Also you can't go to jail for not having an opinion on whether the holocaust happened, you can go to jail for outright denying it happened.

[PatMan]

This has got to be one of the most skewed threads ever!! The amouint of topics covered from coach travel, to commentary, to the Holocaust, to "Best Fan Ever" debate!! LOL.... I love t'interweb for just this kind of reason!

 

And, as for 'better fans' - ALL 'Fleet fans come into that category!!

[Bernard]

I don't think views on Adolf Hitler are as subjective as views on a football match...

[David Holden]

Actually they're probably far more subjective as they tend to be the views of of the victors.

 

Take Richard III for example.

[Bernard]

That's somewhat different, partly because no-one alive can remember him (except Bill Deedes) and partly because propaganda was easier to implement back then, without any dissenting political writers.

[Stu M]

Originally Posted By: Bernard

I don't think views on Adolf Hitler are as subjective as views on a football match...

He was definitely offside at Stalingrad.

[Slartibartfast]

Originally Posted By: Bernard

That's somewhat different, partly because no-one alive can remember him (except Bill Deedes) and partly because propaganda was easier to implement back then, without any dissenting political writers.

How do you know that Bernard? As David pointed out history is written by the winners everything we learn about the past is distorted by the views of the people who recorded/reported the event.
Propaganda is much easier to implement today than it ever has been, we don't get any less biased views we just get access to more than one sides propaganda.

[Riverview Supporter]

Its only the rebellious press like The Express that will ever bring out the truth especially about Diana Princess Of Wales

 

The Mail is 50p tomorrow. probablydue to imiigrants saving all the change and hence newsagents dont have any to givr you when you hand over a pound.

[Hirsty]

Your're not telling me that Richard IV didn't exist ? And he didn't have sons called Harry & Edmund ?

 

I still reckon Sheff Wed won the cup in 1645 though.....with Big Roneth as Lord of the Manor !

 

And not to forget the great cup win ( non league ) of Gravesham the year following, as found in the parchments scribed by someone who called himself Gareth of Chatham.....must be true ?

 

Cheers,

[Stu M]

Originally Posted By: Hirsty

Your're not telling me that Richard IV didn't exist ?

I often used to think Richard Newbery didn't exist, most especially on Saturday afternoons.

[Hempstead Gaz]

Originally Posted By: Hirsty

Your're not telling me that Richard IV didn't exist ? And he didn't have sons called Harry & Edmund ?

I still reckon Sheff Wed won the cup in 1645 though.....with Big Roneth as Lord of the Manor !

And not to forget the great cup win ( non league ) of Gravesham the year following, as found in the parchments scribed by someone who called himself Gareth of Chatham.....must be true ?

Cheers,

NOT, true, you cad!! All those parchments were burnt in the great fire of Grave's End in 1665 started by some wind borne embers from Pudding Lane.

They must be forgeries!!

[American FLEET FAN No1]

Originally Posted By: Stu M

Originally Posted By: Hirsty

Your're not telling me that Richard IV didn't exist ?

I often used to think Richard Newbery didn't exist, most especially on Saturday afternoons.

[kmj]

Historians today examine contemporaneous source materials to try and work out what was actually going on. Granted, that if the original sources are inaccurate to begin with it makes the pursuit of truth very difficult. Until then we had better simply rely upon the evidence. This is that it is easier to comment upon Hitler than Richard III due to technological advances and numerous eye witness accounts.