Woking Thread

[Bernard]

I didn't make the game tonight. I'm very annoyed it was moved because that meant I still haven't got the Woking yet, after five years in the Conference!

 

This result is not the end of the world and certainly doesn't look bad in comparison with the shockers against Stafford at home and Cambridge away. We have easier games to come but also many harder ones (Kiddie away, Daggers away, that Halifax game we've already 'lost' once). The Oxford game was not a blip - we were beaten by the better side on the day in a very tough game - but we need to pick ourselves up quickly, which would have been made easier by a win last night.

 

Whatever people's views on the Trophy, a win at Northwich might set our season back on course a little. However, I can't help thinking we'll capitulate and lose, just as we could have done at Havant and we did do against AFCW at home.

 

I'll be off to Kiddie on the 3rd and I hope many Fleet fans will make the journey up there to see us pull off a win like we did last season. Their soup and their chicken curry also come highly recommended!

[Harry J Allstars]

Do they do chips at Aggborough, Bernard? If not then I'll have a Kitkat.

[Bernard]

Make it a Kit-Kat Chunky and you're in.

[jc]

This late equalizer was different to the one at Crawley - there, we sat back straight after going ahead, and the late goal was coming (McCarthy cleared one off the line just before it). Last night, on the other hand, while we did drop off a little, the last-minute goal was a real bolt from the blue - Woking had barely threatened all half.

 

Although dropping two points right at the end was hugely disappointing, it was pleasing to see a second half comeback after a listless first half display, which we certainly wouldn't have seen last season.

 

Originally Posted By: Alan W (GNFC)

the ref suddenly decided he had to add 5 minutes (although he only added 2 in the 1st half when there were mmore stoppages)

 

Most gallingly, this injury time was largely created by the earlier timewasting at 1-0 by Bittner, meaning his side actually ended up benefiting from the resulting time added on.

[Alan W (GNFC)]

Whilst we only drew last night, it should be noted that Daggers also drew 2-2 earlier this season & Oxford lost 1-0. Yes, I know other play off hopefuls have won there as well, but the result wouldnt have been that bad in itself - it was more the manner in which it came about that was frustrating.

[Riverview Supporter]

My post may have been mis read. I just get annoyed with quotes from people who didnt see the game.

 

Last night we were poor in the first half. I would have taken the draw at that point. We battled to a lead of 2-1 and the were stunned by a cracking shot deep into injury time.

 

radio does not do a game of football justice . If people are putting up christmas decorations , plumbing in washing machines or sorting their cd collection into alphabetical then date of release order then good luck to them ,they shouldnt make comments relating to the game. A simple "Well done lads" will do with subsequant comments after reading the match reports on here and elsewhere on the net.

 

Not everyone will make away games due to cost , timing etc........ but their opinions should be curtailed.

[Stu M]

Originally Posted By: Riverview Supportter

Not everyone will make away games due to cost , timing etc........

So is your signature called for?

[eufckev]

Originally Posted By: Riverview Supportter

My post may have been mis read. I just get annoyed with quotes from people who didnt see the game.

Hear, hear!

It was a poor first half from us, the 2 substitutions seemed to give us the boost, hence Jon Keeling was my man of the match. He came on and ran his socks off throught the second half. Charlie gave 100%, shame he could not convert the chance he had during the five minutes of injury time. It's great to see Varney score on his debut for Gravesend, seems to be a bright prospect. Nice one, Alex!!
I was a bit annoyed with the first goal we conceded, the wall seemed to be a lot more than 10 yards back, but Woking's second goal was excellent. Hope it goes down as one of the goals of the season.

We have a tough match away and a long journey up North to Northwich! I would be estactic if we came away with a win from that match. A draw I would be satisfied with. Northwich have obviously played well to reach the quarter final stage, and will no doubt raise their game against us. We should do the same! Slatts will be back for this game as well, so let's go there feeling positive and lets BELIEVE!!

Up the Fleet!

[UP FLEET]

so when i pick up a sunday national paper and read the reports, together with the saturday commentry, oh yer i missed match of the day, im not allowed to go to work on a monday morning and comment about the match ive been reading about, freedom of speach if i want to crittise my team based on reports i will do so, and then when ever i get to see them i will always give my team the full vocal encouragement, because i dont believe in shouting at the team on match days, that doesnt help,it doesnt make anyone a better surporter just because you go to more games than the next man.

[Riverview Supporter]

Originally Posted By: UP FLEET

so when i pick up a sunday national paper and read the reports, together with the saturday commentry, oh yer i missed match of the day, im not allowed to go to work on a monday morning and comment about the match ive been reading about, freedom of speach if i want to crittise my team based on reports i will do so, and then when ever i get to see them i will always give my team the full vocal encouragement, because i dont believe in shouting at the team on match days, that doesnt help,it doesnt make anyone a better surporter just because you go to more games than the next man.

Is that not what I said. Its the rapid comments as the final whistle goes that annoy many

[Hempstead Gaz]

Tough.

This is a forum, where we have and give opinions.

Some you may like, others you may not.

Debate it, don't ban it.

I simply said closing a game down with 5 mins left with a goal advantage and against 10 men should be within the remit of most teams.

Over the years we have had a knack of doing the opposite, particularly in cup games.

 

[Hirsty]

Originally Posted By: UP FLEET

.... freedom of speach

God bless her and all who sail in her !

Cheers,

[PatMan]

Originally Posted By: UP FLEET

it doesnt make anyone a better surporter just because you go to more games than the next man.

Erm, surely it does? A supporter by definition would be someone who 'supports' his (or her!) team by actually going to watch them play live [financial support]. Therefore the more you go, the more you support, making you a better supporter.
This however doesn't mean they are any better at giving their views, criticisms, opinions of the team. It often makes them worse as they are full of themselves for being a 'better supporter'

[BustaGut]

ummmm so lets get this right, If you listen to chas commentate on the radio, you cannot take any notice of it, so what you are saying is he does not give a fair reflection of the match??? so are you saying he has done a crap job ????it was only back in the 60,s that all you had was radio,s unless you were at the game. so did that mean in them days no one was allowed a opinion??? or allowed to pass comment??? what crap some of you talk on here!!!

[Harry J Allstars]

I can't see why anyone has a problem with this, it's not that hard you just have to think about it. If you havent seen the game you can't say "Charlie Mac had a blinder and played well" just because Chas Webster said so. Now I used to listen to Chas' comments but don't anymore as I go to all the games but when I did listen to them I loved them. I also talk to Chas from time to time and and he is a nice bloke who gives up his time to travel around the country so to give those not so fortunate to make the game a chance to listen.

 

It's about oppinions and the only way you can make an oppinion is if you see the incident/game for yourself. I see where Patman is coming from regarding the better supporter thing but I don't really agree. It's a touchy subject and if I was to come on here sayig I was a better supporter than anyone else just because I had seen all the games whereas this other may have missed a few then it wouldn't be right. Some people can't go because of family commitments, work, finance etc but then if they do everything they can then surely thats fair enough.

 

Sorry to go offtopic a bit but this reminds me of something I read a few years ago after the Tsunami. Some female pensioner gave somethig like £100 to the fund while a millionair gave £2,000. £100 was all the pensioner could afford yet the millionair, who obviously gave more could probably have afforded more, although I'm sure they were greatful to receive the money he gave. There was then a debate about who was the better person, the woman who gave all she could afford or the millionair who gave a lot more and therefore proabably helped more people.

 

I don't see why the "better supporter" debate has to come into it anyway, it's really just about oppinions. How can you say how good the game was if you haven't seen it? You wouldn't be able to give evidence in court because of something you've heard on the radio. I think this really all started because people feel gutted about not being able to make a certain game, say for instance Exeter away this season. People would have felt really jubilant over this result and so wanted to say how well everybody must have played with out actually seeing the match for themselves. If thats the case then thats your problem and you should just get over it. No one blames you for not going but don't have a go at the people that disagree with you over a certain factor and then use the argument that you didn't see the game and therefore can't comment.

[BustaGut]

I actually do go to most home and some away., I grant you that you, can give a more objective view by being there, but listen to a commentary gives you the right to a opinion of what you have heard. A bit like a court of law there not there when the crime is commited, but make a judgement on what they are told !!

[UP FLEET]

Originally Posted By: PatMan

Originally Posted By: UP FLEET

it doesnt make anyone a better surporter just because you go to more games than the next man.

Erm, surely it does? A supporter by definition would be someone who 'supports' his (or her!) team by actually going to watch them play live [financial support]. Therefore the more you go, the more you support, making you a better supporter.
This however doesn't mean they are any better at giving their views, criticisms, opinions of the team. It often makes them worse as they are full of themselves for being a 'better supporter'

depends on which way you view the term surporter, in my book fan/surporter is the same thing, but i can see where your coming from on this, and to determin the word surporter in the way you do, means your description is correct.but we all surport our team, by puchacing replica shirts, products,etc,just not as much as the next man. good example by harry and the old woman, lol.im getting lost now,but i think all this started from cg saying about killing off games, and that is his opinion, and i think hes correct wether ive seen the match or not.

[jc]

Originally Posted By: Stu M

Originally Posted By: Riverview Supportter

Not everyone will make away games due to cost , timing etc........

So is your signature called for?

I think the point that is being made is that people shouldn't feel the need to post excuses for missing games on here - a roll call of who will and won't be at a forthcoming match isn't really necessary.

Originally Posted By: UP FLEET

so when i pick up a sunday national paper and read the reports, together with the saturday commentry, oh yer i missed match of the day, im not allowed to go to work on a monday morning and comment about the match ive been reading about

It depends on the nature of the comment. Obviously.

Originally Posted By: Chatham Gary

I simply said closing a game down with 5 mins left with a goal advantage and against 10 men should be within the remit of most teams.

Of course it's a concern - but as has been indicated by those at the game, the goal was a real bolt from the blue, and a fine strike that Cronin and/or the defence could do little about.

Originally Posted By: BustaGut

ummmm so lets get this right, If you listen to chas commentate on the radio, you cannot take any notice of it, so what you are saying is he does not give a fair reflection of the match??? so are you saying he has done a crap job ????

However good Chas' commentaries are, he (or any other radio commentator for that matter) cannot be an equally good substitute for actually being present at a match. If you give opinions based on Chas' commentary, you are merely recycling his opinions (however spot on they may be) without knowing whether you would agree with them were you at the game, whereas if you give opinions on a game you have seen, those opinions are far more likely your own. In fact, you've summed it up perfectly yourself lower down the thread:

Originally Posted By: BustaGut

listen to a commentary gives you the right to a opinion of what you have heard.

As Harry says, it's not really that difficult.

[chris blanc]

Originally Posted By: Harry J Allstars

it's not that hard you just have to think about it

Not all people are as smart as you... and millionair has an 'e'

Originally Posted By: Harry J Allstars

It's about oppinions and the only way you can make an oppinion is if you see the incident/game for yourself.

So I had best change all my opinions about Hitler, never saw him have anyone killed, all hearsay.

Umm I think I can go to jail for saying that in some parts of Europe

[Harry J Allstars]

Originally Posted By: chris blanc (GN

Not all people are as smart as you... and millionair has an 'e'

You missed out the full stop.