H&R match comments

[Boney Crisp]

Yes but my the point of my post is that if alcohol was banned from the terraces then the lino would not of had beer thrown over him.

[Pagey]

Hey Beagle, there is a job for Pfizers waiting for you

[Boney Crisp]

lmao, brilliant Andy

[The Slathering Beagle]

Careful Tucker or else I'll bite your ars*e as well.

 

woof woof

[Rob_Butler]

I wouldn't beagle, you may catch rabies

[The Slathering Beagle]

Don't worry, I have had my injections, 'he' made me have them and kept saying good boy as the bloody great needle went in. I am definitely going to rip my masters pants off and then I'll get Butler. I like bitches and bones.

 

woof woof

[michael]

A bit late in the day, but sort of need to post to get yesterday out of my system.

These were my own particular footballing lowlights of the day:

 

Pre-match-you watch H and r warming up and get the impression that they are a physically strong side who go through a very professional series of pre-match warm-up routines.Not the half hearted efforts you get from many Ryman sides

 

H and R first goal-not a free kick, but you could see the goal coming-our defenders were static, but all H and R forwards (not just Hodges ) were moving around to make space.Poor defending-

 

2nd goal-dubious penalty imo,but RT you should have been more careful.

3rd goal-opinions vary-and i was on halfway line, but looked a certain penalty to me.I think the red mist was still around PS after arguing with Mckimm and he lost concentration.

 

Two penalties given away by our central defenders, but our midfield were not firing yesterday-they should have had the quality to prevent H and R making such penetrative balls; and also should have created more for Pinns and DH.

DH was static throughout the game-frankly-he did not look very fit- and was not making much space for himself and to give options to the midfield

 

Credit must go to H and R for 'stopping us playing'.

 

It could all have been so different though had Abbo not put one of the three half chances over the bar in the first 20 minutes.

Although they were very much half chances, Abbo should be scoring more if he is going to justify his place in the side

 

I don't think anyone else has mentined that H and R actually got a fair fourth goal when C.Mitten -and i think it was Sappleton- collided and ball was put in the net.I could see no reason for that to be disallowed (from P.Watts thread re:who should be in goal:

 

' At HT the physio comes from the Dressing Room and summons Protheroe, luckily it's not for McKimm, but tactical for Abbott. I often think that Trotty's achiles heel as Boss is his 'macho' stance on discipline - it appears he's not picking his best team just to enforce team discipline (2 examples Proths should be in ahead of Abbo, SCS ahead of Charlie [especially after his display at ETU] but both appear to be missing for non footballing reasons .. I can't see any reason for their absence)'.

 

back to my thoughts:

Skinners sending off -suicidal and he had been playing so well.

 

2nd half performance-i liked the spirit shown,and if it comes down to goal difference,we did well to pull those two goals back and as others say-the guys deserve credit accordingly

Thank goodness Protheroe came on (see P Watts comments as above on similar)

 

Mckimm-unjustifiably sent off.

Lucky moment-Trotts blatant trip on their forward near the dugout halfway late in second half-players have been sent off for less !!

 

Best ball of the day-Standens ball to Hockton who took the goal very well.

 

Despite two debatable decisions-Mckimms sending off,and the first penalty,i did not think the referee was as poor as many have suggested.

 

Overall, i think H and R did just about deserve the win.

 

We were never going to win every game but whats needed now is bouncebackability at Harrow

[margateshot]

Protheroe being called for by the physio while out on the pitch forms another talking point. Why are the subs not in the changing room with the remainder of the team going through the half time talk. If there was an injury just after the second half kick off they would not have a clue what the tactics were for the team.

[abdullah]

Ah, margateshot my friend, you are a man of wise words! In a team game you would think that everyone who might have a part to play in the match would be in on any game plan! A grand idea to foster team spirit and to encourage the lesser lights that they are an important part of the team structure!

 

However, it seems that the half-time kick around is deployed to (1) warm up the subs in case they are immediatly needed for the second half , which rarely is the case,

(2) give them valuably needed activity (in 10 minutes) so that they are always matchfit and can slot straight into the side as required,

(3)make them think that though they did not get a game they did at least have a taste of the action, especially on those long boring away trips and

(4)knock cups of tea etc out of the hands of unsuspecting fans when some half-time pop at goal goes horribly wide and causes havoc! And so, entertain the crowd!

 

In the old days , when there was only one sub, you didn't have half time kick abouts - basically because if you kicked the ball nobody was there to kick it back! Instead we had young girls marching bands! Much more fun!

 

Abdullah 12th Man!

[Cookie]

I enjoyed that post Abs. One of your better ones might I say!

[Frankie100]

Can I just add here that Charlie pulled off a point blank save late in the second half.

 

Also I might be mistaken but during injury at the end of the game I thought I saw Hampton awarded a corner which even they thought was dubious. Their player then played the corner straight to Charlie with no Hampton players even going forward.

 

If true then shows that even Hampton thought ref was poor.

[Hornet]

What I would like to know is why on earth would anyone want to call themselves L*ton?

[michael]

Here's the Hampton view of the game :

 

http://www.hamptonfc.com/matchreports/270107.html

 

Can't say i particularly disagree with their posting which is maybe a bit less myopic than some of our own biased opinions.

 

Respect to them for not raising the rather unsavoury spectator incident ,and not making too much of the sendings off.

 

Can we sign Hodges please.

[Chris1]

Thanks for that link Michael.

 

Interesting to read that 'Some of McKimm`s team mates were none too pleased with his actions' [leading to his sending-off].

 

If you read the H&R message board you will find that this story comes from the referee justifying his actions to someone associated with their club. The person relaying that, known as Les, is a respected poster on the MB, and may indeed be Les Rance their press officer.

 

I do not know if the allegation is true, but in any case what the hell is the ref doing giving interviews to the home club, and smearing (at best) or slandering (at worst) the away team's captain?

 

I have not changed my opinion one bit of this referee, and will be interested to see whether officials shooting their mouths off after the game is sanctioned by the FA.

[Cookie]

The referee aside,hasn't McKimm done this in the past.Did he not get sent of for similar before or maybe it was a booking? I can understand the adrenaline that might be flowing by getting back into the game but to get involved like this by trying to get the ball back to get the game going is counter productive surely. How much time did the sending off take up? Surely best to just go back to the centre circle & wait for the ball to be retrieved & placed for the restart.Am sure that by the time all players are in position the ball will have been retrieved with hardly any loss of time.Its easy to say I know when you aren't out there & that adrenaline is flowing.Good to see McKimm or anyone with that good attitude but we don't really need to do this do we.

It wastes time more than saves it in the long run & we cant be doing with losing other players in the future for such a small crime,whether mistakenly made or not.The referee will deal with it as he sees it & we cant afford anymore of these silly sendings off!

[Chris1]

I agree with what you say Cookie, but the point I am making is about the referee.

 

How are officials going to be seen as impartial when they have a cosy little chat with the home club after the game, justifying their actions by slagging off the opponents?

 

Can anybody tell me what the FA's stance on this is?

[Cookie]

Sorry I was veering off your point I admit. No reason whatsoever for the referee to get involved after the match. He should remain in his dressing room & keep quiet.No need to comment at all on any part of the game & especially to one & not the other.I see what has been said & I take into consideration the high regard of the person who posted it.Without actually calling the guy a liar it does seem to me to be a bit odd for the referee to comment in this way but if he did then its just another flaw in his abilities to referee.i.m.o.

[ColinHRBFC]

A few points I feel the need to make.

 

Glad to hear that most of you felt the report from Les was decent. He does tend to call it as he sees it without very much bias and will tend to slate a Hampton player if he has seen an indiscretion on their part. If he doesn't mention it then he won't genuionley wouldn't have seen it.

 

Match Referees do tend to visit the board room after the game, this i believe is the case at most grounds - unless he really has had a shocker. Over a drink and some nibbles the board of both sides will, obviously, discuss their own viewpoints on incidents throughout the game. I'd expect anyone who referees to defend their decisions or say, at the very least, they thought they got it right at the time. This is not unusual! Les flits in and out of the boardroom after the game as he does more than just the match reports. I don't want to defend the old git too much though as he might think i like him. Parents can be so embarrassing some times.

 

As for the beer on the terraces, the club got permission from the ryman league to allow alcohol in plastic glasses on the terraces and, so far, only two incidents have happened - saturday and AFC W'don last season. It is a benefit to the customers that they can go outside with their drinks, especially as our bar is non-smoking. I'm sure if this troublemaker had not had a beer in his hand he would have managed to do something else. Throw a bin perhaps, or leap the barrier and assault the lino. He could equally have thrown a cup of tea or a burger at him, so the beer itself is not the issue. Just the idiocy of one man.

 

Our stewards, who are all volunteers naturally - and most are of shall we say, a certain age - are normally very relaxed and personable. I can only presume they stepped up the 'threat level' following the beer incident much the same as the police would after a bomb threat.

 

As i've said on the ryman forum, I wasn't there as I had to work, but it all sounds like one idiot went to far and as a result everyone else over-reacted a bit, fans and stewards alike. Football is an emotive game. Where would we be if we all stood by quietly and let everything pass by without comment or reaction?? That's right people - Switzerland!

 

I'm sure some of your criticism is justified but lay off the people who put themselves out for the good of the club - as i believe many people at Margate FC do on a daily basis - they are just trying to help out.

 

Good luck for the rest of the season, I'm sure we will meet again in the Connie South.

[Frankie100]

Thought the stewarding at Hampton just fine as spent the second half chatting to two of them by the players entrance. We were able to have a sensible conversation about the match throughout.

 

They did almost lose one steward as John Cooper's son wanted to take Banjo the dog home with him (funny how both Hampton and Horsham both allowed dogs into their grounds. Surprised the league rules allow it but there again shows the relaxed atmosphere at non league football)

 

As for drinking beer on the terraces I did as well but there is no way I would waste any on an official however annoyed I might be.

 

[keffyh]

Originally Posted By: Frankie100

Thought the stewarding at Hampton just fine as spent the second half chatting to two of them by the players entrance. We were able to have a sensible conversation about the match throughout.

They did almost lose one steward as John Cooper's son wanted to take Banjo the dog home with him (funny how both Hampton and Horsham both allowed dogs into their grounds. Surprised the league rules allow it but there again shows the relaxed atmosphere at non league football)

As for drinking beer on the terraces I did as well but there is no way I would waste any on an official however annoyed I might be.

If Banjo was going to go home with anyone else - then I'd be happy for it to be with a Margate fan. Your his 2nd favourite team after H&RB.
Veering away from the topic slightly - I've been able to take Banjo to quite a few away games..Tonbridge, Folkestone, Staines,Dulwich, Met Police,Bromley....in fact the only ones I've approached (I'll always ask the away club first) who said no were Leyton.
Guess they didn't want to have an attendance in 3 figures !!