The new Clement Temile thread

[Football Man]

Originally Posted By: Rhodes

I still haven't got the faintest idea who you are talking about unless you mean Dave Rae our high profile physio, I doubt that Dave would do the dirty on us though and join another Club particularly without having the curtesy to let me know first.

Finally, the penny drops! Yes, it is Dave Rae - your high profile EX physio. We are, of course, grateful to you, clip Rods, for mentioning on this forum that Dave was at your club so we knew exactly where we needed to go to get him "back home". I think we may lend him back to you from time to time if our other physio, Johnny Lawton, is available. I'm not sure exactly how that works, though; that's our first team manager's department. I believe one or two of your players still get private treatment from Dave at his gym.

As I say, Dave told me last night that he did speak to you a couple of weeks ago. Perhaps your head was in RhodesWorld at the time?

[Rhodes]

Potters Bar Town - Your post has been overtaken by events now as I have since spoken to Dave who was incandescent, to put it mildly, by the goings on of the last few days and the way he has been portrayed as a Judace. You state on another thread that you had a laugh and a joke with him yesterday at Parkfield however I'm sure that was far from the case and I wouldn't be at all surprised if you are sporting a black eye today, Audley Harrison style.

[Horace]

"by the goings on of the last few days and the way he has been portrayed as a Judace."

 

Who did that then? And it's "Judas"

[HTFCew]

Originally Posted By: Horace

"by the goings on of the last few days and the way he has been portrayed as a Judace."

Who did that then?

Wasn't it Rhodes?

[Rhodes]

Horace - Keep up, this serious matter of Potters Bar Town poaching our physio has been ongoing for nearly a week now.

[Horace]

Originally Posted By: Rhodes

Horace - Keep up, this serious matter of Potters Bar Town poaching our physio has been ongoing for nearly a week now.

I'm up with it, clip! Physios are free to go where they like, and there's nothing you can do about it. If he wanted to stay with you, he would have.

[Sharming Paula]

Horace - thats unlike you not to keep up

[Rhodes]

Paula - Lol, I misread your post at first and thought it said 'that's unlike you not to keep it up', I was going to say that I thought you had a steady boyfriend now.

[Sharming Paula]

I do have a steady boyfriend - what differece would it have made if I had of written what you said??

 

[Rhodes]

Folks - Check out these two links about 'the great one', Clement is now all over the Spanish and Italian press like a rash including the high profile Gazzetta Dello Sport that highlights his whereabouts 'at London Club Kentish Town', why don't you now simply accept the fact that this is a World famous figure we are talking about, why persist in knocking him at every opportunity:

 

http://www.elpais.com/articulo/deportes/futbolista/patria/elpepudep/20070222elpepidep_9/Tes

 

http://www.gazzetta.it/Rubriche/CalcioEstero/Primo_Piano/2007/02_Febbraio/23/toto.shtml

[Lato]

I don't read Italian or Spanish but it seems to me that the stories are more about Toto Tammuz and his passport problems and they mention his father as a former journeyman international in passing. I didn't notice 'Kenitsh Town' or 'London club' in the respective texts

 

No one has ever denied Clement Temile played for Nigeria, wee just don't think he is as world famous as you constantly imply.

[PB!]

Not sure about the spanish translation but the italian one shows no mention of Kentish Town. Goes on to say that Totos father Clement was a member of the Nigeria side that played Roger Millas Cameroon in the African Nations Cup. Then goes onto say that they couldnt dedicate the necessary care and attention to the baby so abandoned him with a friend, Orit Tammuz. Next part is about the fialed adoption process and finally about how he sees Orit as his mother and has taken on her language and religion.

 

Then goes on to talk about his playing career and finally his battle for nationalisation in Israel.

[Rhodes]

Well you don't seem to be looking hard enough or else you need glasses, Kentish Town Football Club are clearly mentioned towards the end of the Italian article which will open all sorts of doors and avenues for us in Italy.

[Football Man]

Look forward to someone translating these articles so we can see how much more embarrassment you've heaped upon Clement and Kentish Town this time. From PB's post, it doesn't look as if we're being told anything new.

[Lato]

Apologies (see I make them unlike some). It does mention Kentish Town in passing as that is where Clement Temile is now coaching. However from running the article through a translation site it would seem to suggest that KTFC is an obscure (it uses the word minor) London based club. It does however make the point that Toto Tammuz wants nothing to do with his biological father although Clement Temile has made efforts to contact him..something that seems to be coming up again and again. You suggest this is otherwise, and I'd like to believe you but if this isn't the case why does it keep being mentioned?

[HTFCew]

This is the Babelfish translation:

 

Toto Tamuz is a 19enne of nigeriana origin, grown in Israel and that with the national mesh of the Middle Eastern one it has already played several games. But a clandestine remains and hour has been put in strike MADRID (Spa), 23 February 2007 - Centravanti, art son, great physicist, good talent, but above all stateless to the deprived of hope search of a Israeli passport. This the profile of Toto Adaruns Tammuz Temile, known simply like Toto Tamuz. One incredible history, that one of the Temile. The Clament father played to the wing, with profit. With the national nigeriana he disputed the goblet of Africa of 1984, lost in end against Cameroun di Roger Milla. In the 1990 he moved himself in Israel. The son, Toto, had two years. Neanche a year after the square who had tesserato Temile, the Beitar Netanya, was melted for economic reasons. The parents of Toto tried to recycle themselves accepting various jobs, but in 1991 not succeeding to dedicate to the child the necessary attentions they decided to temporary entrust it to a companion of square of Clement, Ytzhak Gueta. When Toto had 10 years the parents abandoned determined Isarele definitively and the child to go to living with one mrs. of name Orit Tammuz, one managing that today to 43 years. When it was clearly that its parents would not be never return to you to resume Toto, mrs. Tammuz determined to adopt Toto dandogli its last name, but the adoption process never was not completed because mrs. Tammuz is single and had need of the authorization of the biological parents. The child, clandestine until the 10 years, remained with mrs. Orit, that he considers its mother, growing like a Israeli for language, habits and religion. To 17 Tamuz years he has esordito in the maximum Israeli series with the Hapoel Petah Tikva. Then the call with national Under 19. Tamuz did not have documents: in December 2005 a year was assigned to it to a temporary stay permission, valid, and the Fifa recognized to the case the special status of permettendogli playing with the national Israeli accepting like valid document to lasciapassare instead of the passport. The 1° you open them next compirà Toto 19 years. In the past september it is passed to the Beitar Gerusalemme, it puts into effect them capolista of the championship, and has toed make one's debut in national the greater one, marking against Andorra in the qualifications to the European of 2008. In field also against Russia and Croatia, and in the victories of Under 21 against Wales and France, Tamuz, they puts into effect to capocannoniere of the championship with 10 nets in 20 left (12 from holder) has decided to enter in strike. Against Israel, meant like State, with temporary refusal of the several convocazioni in the representative ones in order to protest against the ostracism of a Country that it feels like its. 7 past February has jumped the friendly one with the Ucraina, the next appointment is the decisive challenge with England of 24 March. What wants Toto? A Israeli passport, that is the acknowledgment of its nationality and the strongest tie that in 16 years has established with Israel. At the Tamuz moment she is a stateless person: neither nigeriano neither Israeli, without citizenship. It feels Israeli, and has more times declared than is ready to support the three obbligatori years of military service. But the continuous Ministry of the Interior to answer negatively to its questions forms them because it fears to create previous a dangerous one for a Country with many immigrates clandestine of origins Africans to you: "the fact that features of a soccer player professional who plays with national not it some is conferred I privilege in matter of citizenship - it has asserted a megaphone of the ministry -. In no case but it will be deported like the other clandestines". Beautiful satisfaction. In the past December Israel it has offered to Tamuz I renew biennial of its permission, than Toto it has refused having carried just the case the Advanced Court of Israel, than it will be pronounced to short. The tifosi have collected 40,000 companies to support of its cause, but the result is uncertain. While its father, with which Toto does not want more to have null to that making (therefore like with the mother), is stationed to London, where until to some time it makes trained the Kentish Town, square of quarter that debates in divisions many minors, while its brother Omonigo Temile, skillful wing of 24 years, from three to the Krylia Sovetov in Russia, as soon as has arrived in national. That nigeriana. Because it when the Temile left for Israel was left house.

[Football Man]

clip Rods, what new information does that tell us?

[HTFCew]

Originally Posted By: Rhodes

Kentish Town Football Club are clearly mentioned towards the end of the Italian article which will open all sorts of doors and avenues for us in Italy.

Quote of the month contender?

[HTFCew]

Originally Posted By: Potters Bar Town FC

clip Rods, what new information does that tell us?

Nothing much, but it does agree with the Wikipedia entry.

[Rhodes]

Originally Posted By: Potters Bar Town FC

clip Rods, what new information does that tell us?

Well granted not a great deal however you're forgetting that the story is going Worldwide with the Spanish and Italians now jumping on the bandwagon and the momentum gathering pace leading up to the Israel v England game on 24 March, still a full month away. I told you didn't I that this unique story could well become the biggest thing in international football since Paulo Rossi in 1982 or Bosman with 'the great one' and Kentish Town caught up in the middle with journalists from all four corners of the globe banging our door down.