Bashley Game

[Fuzzy]

I cannot believe i am going to write this, and i know i will be slaughtered, but we have a problem in front of goal.

WE have scored loads of goals because we are a very good side and create lots of chances, not because we have a great striker. Don't get me wrong i thnk we have two very good and capable forwards but are they goalscorers, a real striker?

If we had an experienced, proven goalscorer we would have won yesterday and at Swindon, and i would fancy our chances a lot more against King's Lynn.

Does anyone else feel the same way?

To mitigate this i would like to say the team look fantastic going forward and always look like we can score, and it is great to watch and it looks like the players are really enjoying it too (I know i am).

I am not whinging that we are rubish or won't score goals it just worries me this could be the difference between the league and getting into the play offs. The team are more than capable of winning the league and from what I have seen there is not a better side in the league, but if you just look at the last two games against the two other teams, in my opinion, that have looke dthe best against us it has been our inability to convert chances that has robbed us of five points.

Oh, and I though the Bashley report on the game was spot on, nice to read an honest review rather than beatifully written piece of propaganda.

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[Hammerman]

What about Chesham. They where just below us in the league. Our run has come to an end.

Now we must see how they react to the next game.

I think we have 2 good strikers but what are you expecting a Michael Owen type player to turn out for us and score every week. If we did the big clubs (Football League) would have snapped him up.

We just haven't had the luck in front of goal Where as the second bashley goal came from a bad bounce. For me Swindon are the best side I have seen so far and I don't rate Bashley at all.

[Fuzzy]

It worries me that we are going to lose Chennells at some point this season as he is a quality player, but you miss my point.

we score lots of goals because we are a very good side and create a lot of chances.

If we had a quality finisher, we would be only a few points off the top and yes, we would probably lose him at some point in the season as we create so many chances and he would score for fun.

The fact we were looking at other strikers means Simon knows we need something else ass well.

This team is good enough beat anyone in our division but all i was saying was that it is apparent from the last two games we need to take the chances when they come.

It would be a travesty if we din't get promoted and I would hate to think it is because we missed easy chances to sink average sides.

For a side you don't rate they have beaten us three times in the first four months of the season and sit top of the league. For my money that makes them a good side that we made look average and took their chances when we didn't.

[Hammerman]

We had 10 men in the first game and was the better and fitter side.

In the Second we where very poor and deserved to lose.

I don't think we deserved to lose on saturday.

What I am saying is that compared to a lot of the sides I have seen this year I don't think they are very good.

Simon will be looking at other strikers as we are short in that department. Porter and Edgely have been playing on either wing.

As far as I'm concernced we have 2 quality finishers who score goals reguarly.

Not many people on this forum and that includes me thought we would do well this season but we are and there is still time for us to win the league.

I think Fuzzy you want too much!

[mattwefc]

i can see where you are coming from and in some senses i agree.our strikers are banging in the goals for fun and they are being suppilied well form the wings as well but in the past 2 games we have come up against two sets of solid centre backs and we have struggled.however very few sides have partnerships that are that strong so i dont think we should be panicking just yet.as much as we'd all like to win every game it is just not possible and teasm are bound to come unstuck at some point or another over the course of a season.but at the moment we are still in the play offs and going along well so lets not panic yet.

[Woody SUFC]

Amazing. Utterly Amazing....

 

Confident of play offs before the game and still am. Sure a back up striker is perhaps needed but not vital as soon case and ursell will be back fully meaning ben can play upfront more!

[Guest]

 

The old saying is that goals win games - Bashley had about 3 chances to score and did with 2 of them. We had about 10 and missed them all. I don't think we have a major problem, and will almost certainly end up in the play offs. Bashley will probably be there as they look like a team that will play consistently and take their chances, which they have each time we've played them. They are certainly one of the better teams I've seen this season and with the amount of rubbish in this division are not going to find much to bother them.

 

Fuzzy - if we got the sort of striker you are looking for we would bang in 3 or 4 every match, but goalscorers are a rare commodity and will play at a higher level, lets face it we're pretty close to the bottom of the non-league pile in this division. I think Simon has done fantastic to attract and keep as many quality players as he has.

 

As for Kings Lynn, if they were focused on playing us, I really think we'd be in trouble, bet let's face it, FA Cup 2nd Round, at home, live on sky what would be in your mind, particularly after that 1st Dave Tilbury challenge......... need I say more

[Guest]

Tough one to sum up saturday. Windsor have lost to Bashley 3 times now and yet popular opinion is that they're not the best team in the division. Perhaps Bashley aren't the most skillful but they are a very organised and resourcefull side with probably the best keeper you'll see at a non-league ground this season, they came to Stag Meadow with a gameplan of putting themselves about and hitting windsor on the break and it worked.

 

Perhaps if windsor had taken a chance whilst the sun was in the bashley keepers eyes we wold have seen a very different and more positive encouter from bith sides.

 

A poor game, on a poor pitch with poor officials and some very poor finaishing and tactics from Windsor. We've seen windsor look a decent side when having things there own way on dry grassy surfaces, they didn't look like they could deal with it when things weren't so rosey saturday.

 

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[chels - WEFC]

so it's been two games without a win and people are starting to ask questions?

Do we REALLY have a problem in front of goal? Not really, scored plenty this season. Chenns 14 goals, Seeds 10 and Ports with 9.

When we get Casey and Urs back to full fitness, we will have 3 free-scoring strikers.

 

Keep the faith boys

Big game saturday and lets get behind the boys

 

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[mal316]

After sitting here and reading the 'debate' about the game just past I was left with a niggling feeling that I couldn't quite put my finger on, but the it came to me.

 

I re-read A-F-E's comments and thought, OK the pitch isn't as good as it could be or as good as some we have played on this season, the ref wasn't exactly the best we have seen and there were a few chances missed.

 

But then there was the comment about the tactics. I am not saying people can't question the tactics of the management, but what would you have done?

 

I ask this question not to be critical of what people are saying on this forum but to try and get an idea of what supporters feel is our best eleven and formation.

[Hammerman]

For the attention of Bones we scored one goal. We lost 2-1 if i'm correct.

Secondly the pitch is in a very bad state.

Should we ask for our money back?

The pitch was partly at fault for the second goal on saturday taking a nasty bounce.

Thirdly the goalkeeper on saturday was not that good. Wouldn't you have thought that the swindon goalkeeper is better with 2 clean sheets to his name.

I know this is a forum and people are entitled to their opinions but lets keep the faith as the chels would say.

Bring on the Kings Lynn!

[Guest]

Sorry Malcolm sir but i stand by my post.

 

Not a dig at Mr Lane (i've previously posted backing his appointment and the change of direction for the club his appointment represented, and have also shot down in flames the various "anon" posters who were giving it large after the first few games when results were poor.)

 

Saturdays game does raise questions. Living in South London i don't see windsor every game so can only base my comment on what i've seen and what i read. If we take the Chesham game Windsor were allowed to play free flowing football with the time and space to pass the ball and penalty/ sending off accepted where allowed to impose themselves on the game. Against Bashley they were not given that time and space and additionally had to deal with a team who were aggressive, dirty, negative and importantly got themselves in the lead. They came with that game plan and you have to give them credit for it.

 

It is all very well (and iagree with him) that windsor are the superior footballing side but that is of little consequence when over a season you are judged not the "sexiness" of your football but on points. Windsor are a fat 12 of them Behind Bashley and on saturday they did not give the impression handle a side who in old fashioned terms gets up and at em.

If windsor are to win there first title in 25 years or get close to that, they are going to have to learn, fast.

 

Personally i don't think the pitch was playable saturday unless you think deep water filled potholes just outside the box aren't a hazzard but of course if the rumours are to be believed and the club had bothered to pay it's groundsman then that situation may have been different.

 

As for what i would have done, without knowing the players as close these days it's hard to say. We certainly looked more dangerous when Terry O'connor was brought on and got a deserved equaliser. It's not down to me to coach the team though Malcolm it's upto Mr Lane so again, over to you him with me (4 hour round trip to watch windsor from south london every time i bother) and the rest of the barmy army right behind him, all of which pay to get in Mr Williams. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/boxing.gif" alt="" />

[Guest]

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chels - WEFC said:
so it's been two games without a win and people are starting to ask questions?
Do we REALLY have a problem in front of goal? Not really, scored plenty this season. Chenns 14 goals, Seeds 10 and Ports with 9.
When we get Casey and Urs back to full fitness, we will have 3 free-scoring strikers.

Keep the faith boys
Big game saturday and lets get behind the boys

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There's nothing wrong with asking a few questions mate to find out how the team move forward even if our webmaster thinks thats harsh. Nobody can question Windsor and Eton fans support and constructive criticism should be welcome.

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[Guest]

Remember we have been called average by a few teams this season (including Premier teams) and we said let them think that we are average and top of the table. I am sure Bashley aren't bothered either.

 

Chennels want be going anywhere too quickly as he is on contract till the end of next season.

 

Windsor 1 Bashley 2 & PDHM

Current mood: indifferent

 

 

An entertaining game but we lost 2-1. Seedel got the goal. There's a long way to go and games to win. We'll still be there or there abouts.

 

Windsor 1 Bashley 2 & PDHM

Current mood: indifferent

 

 

An entertaining game but we lost 2-1. Seedel got the goal. There's a long way to go and games to win. We'll still be there or there abouts.

 

I thought it was a good even game on Saturday and you make you own luck if we had bobbled in the second goal we wouldn't have been complaining. there's a long way to go and plenty of games to win.

 

URP

[Guest]

Oops busted!!

 

Bloody Copy and Paste!!!

[Guest]

Only got to the ground at half time (although I was just in time to see Malc's fine distribution of the ball from the dugout!)

 

Thought both teams looked well matched. Bashley are obviously a agressive side but I wouldn't say they looked overly dirty.

 

I don't think Windsor have a sriker problem, don't forget Windsor have come up against the 2 best teams (apart from Windsor) in the division imho in the last 2 games which may well be why the goals have dried up. One thing I have noticed the last couple of games is Chennels seems to be spending a lot of time on the wings, again maybe this is because Windsor have played 2 good sides and he's had to go searching for the ball a bit more. He still looks quality and is still worth his place in the team even when he's not scoring. Seedal still looks a handful and causes defenders problems, I don't think he's ever going to be a polific 25 goal a season type of forward but he would still be in my first 11 every time.

 

Hopefully we're start putting our chances away soon and somebody will be on the end of a real hiding....hopefully Kings Lynn on Sat

[Fuzzy]

At the level we are at we will comfortably get in the play offs, we will be up there for the title we know that. With many, many games to go we have a very strong squad and should see ourselves continue to get he results whereas hopefully the others will drop off and get bad results.

But in the last few games the pont I was making was it was not the pitch, the referee, the antics of the opponants that cost us the points but our not taking our chances. I don't think we are having problems or we are a poor side or we have poor forwards. i don't think we will win every game to the end of the season or we should panic about not having a goal scorer just that in my opinion our shots on target to goals scored is probably quite low, and that if we were more clinical in front of goal we very well may have had six out of six of of the last potential points, thats all.

Hammerman, ask for my money back, give me a break, we played entertaining football and my intention was never to belittle what simon and the team have acheived this year, so apologies if that is the way it came across.

See you all Saturday for result of the round!!!

[mal316]

A-F-E, I think you have totally mis-understood what I wrote.

 

I was mearly asking peoples opinions as to what they would have done differently.

 

You were claiming that the tactics were wrong, fine, not everyone shares the same ideas, I too feel that sometimes things could change.

 

Also, what has paying to get in go t to do with it. Whether people pay or not they are entitled to their opinions as are the people that do a hell of a lot of work for the club.

 

All I was asking was a simple question as to what you feel you would have done had you been in Simons shoes.

[Guest]

I did post a response if you care to read it.

 

I think the pitch did us no favours saturday at all and was probably as close to being unplayable as you could get without a an abandonment.

 

I think windsor should have been more adventurous from the off and gave the example of Terry O'connor IT WAS ABSOLUTELY KEY TO PUT THERE KEEPER UNDER PRESSURE IN THE 1ST HALF AN HOUR WITHBTHE LOW SUN IN HIS EYES. We didn't put anywhere near enough decent balls in and with the pitch being sh*te ( i notice my point re the groundsman was overlooked) and when faced with as good a keeper as your going to see at this level we simply did not have the answers against a physical side.

 

Paying to get in has a lot to do with it Malc. I wouldn't wish to question the hard work work you put in to things at the club and indded this website but i would question whether you have the same perspective being closer to the players than those of us standing behind the goal do.

Thas not to say either is right or wrong, but i'd say there certainly different.

 

The key point is this, windsor are good going forward given the time and the space to play but agianst two of the better sides in the division they have been found wanting. If i was boss of a rival side watching the Bashley game saturday what approach do you think they would adopt for a future trip to the meadow?

 

Windsor need to be able to adapt and on the evidence of two recent games, they can't.

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mal316 said:

A-F-E, I think you have totally mis-understood what I wrote.

 

I was mearly asking peoples opinions as to what they would have done differently.

 

You were claiming that the tactics were wrong, fine, not everyone shares the same ideas, I too feel that sometimes things could change.

 

Also, what has paying to get in go t to do with it. Whether people pay or not they are entitled to their opinions as are the people that do a hell of a lot of work for the club.

 

All I was asking was a simple question as to what you feel you would have done had you been in Simons shoes.

[Guest]

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Anonymous said:
Only got to the ground at half time (although I was just in time to see Malc's fine distribution of the ball from the dugout!)

Thought both teams looked well matched. Bashley are obviously a agressive side but I wouldn't say they looked overly dirty.

I don't think Windsor have a sriker problem, don't forget Windsor have come up against the 2 best teams (apart from Windsor) in the division imho in the last 2 games which may well be why the goals have dried up. One thing I have noticed the last couple of games is Chennels seems to be spending a lot of time on the wings, again maybe this is because Windsor have played 2 good sides and he's had to go searching for the ball a bit more. He still looks quality and is still worth his place in the team even when he's not scoring. Seedal still looks a handful and causes defenders problems, I don't think he's ever going to be a polific 25 goal a season type of forward but he would still be in my first 11 every time.

Hopefully we're start putting our chances away soon and somebody will be on the end of a real hiding....hopefully Kings Lynn on Sat

Am 100% sure we'll do Kings Lynn, if it keeps dry before saturday.