John Terry.............. A RACIST?!

[coach et 64]

the all society is racist and you're not gonna change that.racist meant being afraid of someone different from you because of his religion,social class,colour skin,political belief and from a foreigner country.

[inthemixer]

but that doesnt make it acceptable in football, this is a sport where the sport is more important than any opinions off religion etc.

[coach et 64]

it is unacceptable but if is true,it will be brushed under the carpet because terry is an england player and could cause a lot of embarrassement. myself,i called once one of my best mates, a black [****!!****] because i was angry with him and i don't class myself as a racist.there is resentment in society,in general,some people don't accept the fact that your next door neighbour could be black,indian,arab,chinese etc.it's a multiracial society these days,heritage of years of colonisation from the major european countries.france,italy,germany,spain they all have the same problem.we should take a leaf out of canada and see how 120 different races live together in that country.one of my older sister's daughter has married someone from trinidad & tobago and they have two daughters who my sister loves them to bits.one of my brother in law brothers didn't go to the wedding because he was black!my father didn't come to my wedding because my wife was protestant!people are just scared to accept someone that is different,that's all!football or sport can play a big part in fighting this.

[inthemixer]

i wonder if at anytime in those peoples lives, will they ever look back and say , damn i was stupid.

i can remember once playing and i heard 1 of my own defenders call there forward a black c***, i was shocked as i got on well with the player and wouldnt have thought this of him, but whenever i saw him again, that was the first thing that came to mind about him, maybe it was part of his deul with the player, but there was no need to go to that extreme, my beleif is, that is on par with spitting in an opponent face, absolutely disgusting, and i know how i would react, and really would not care about getting banned for life because of my actions.

i accept your excuse as to why you called him that and respect you for coming out on the forum and saying it, but you could have said something else, put yourself in his shoes, he has to put up with that all his life.

(its getting a bit deep on here init? we should really lighten the mood) <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/orange.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/yay.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/yay.gif" alt="" />

[Uncle Urchin]

all good PC stuff but hands up who hasn't said something similar at some time in their lives....

 

I called my missus a slut the other day and she just larfed...I had a dog called nigger when I was a youngster and he loved me to bits and followed me everywhere...I loved him as well and cried when he died.....I lived through apharteid in south africa and would never wish that on anyone...

 

its all bollox...

[Eastside Urchin]

well he does dome from dagenham so nothing would surprise me.I actuallu think that there is something in this as i couldn't believe how mad the spurs players(especially the black ones) were going at the time and i said to my mate in the pub "he has said something naughty there"

but he may of just called him a yid [****!!****].!

[inthemixer]

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Uncle Urchin said:
all good PC stuff but hands up who hasn't said something similar at some time in their lives....

I called my missus a slut the other day and she just larfed...I had a dog called nigger when I was a youngster and he loved me to bits and followed me everywhere...I loved him as well and cried when he died.....I lived through apharteid in south africa and would never wish that on anyone...

its all bollox...

was that what your dog was really called <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> i hope you didnt live in a "urban" area <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />

[Jenko]

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mister said:
the all society is racist and you're not gonna change that.racist meant being afraid of someone different from you because of his religion,social class,colour skin,political belief and from a foreigner country.

Sorry to be padantic but thats incorrect. The ture meaning of racist is to feel that you are superior to someone else based on their race. It doesn't mean you are scared or afraid of them.

Secondly you are not racist because you make a racial comment. It can be said to hurt someone or in the case of football wind someone up to get them sent off.

Finally there are racist footballers simply based on probablity and based on probability some of them are in the premiership. Just because you have black players in the team doesn't mean you don't have racist players both black and white.

[stl1]

im not a racist but i can understand if jt did call him that ''not as a racist but to single him out'' just if some1 called me a ginger [****!!****] its to single me out rather than being hairest....and if some1 is fat you would single them out for this e.tc. e.t.c,

 

p.s if some1 abuses some1 and they take it to heart does that mean they cant accept themselves??

[Jenko]

I agree with you. Its to cause offense and to get a reaction.

[BOROMAN]

Boys........ why do we have these conversations. None of us were on the pitch on Sunday afternoon so how do we know?

 

It's a bit like the my mate's dad's cousin's window cleaner knows a bloke who knows a bloke that drinks with the programme seller at Chelsea, well he reckons that Ashley Cole is.............

[Jenko]

....well tell us!!!!!!!!!!

[BOROMAN]

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EMFC said:
....well tell us!!!!!!!!!!

Having carrots with his pie and chips tonight.

[Jenko]

I can't believe it!!! No peas?????? Thats well out of order and racist against peas!!!!!

[smallsy]

great debate.

 

i think being a racist and trying to cause offence is different.

 

some black people take comments about their skin colour light heartedly and others real offence. same as some fat people take banter about their weight well and others do not.

 

some short people may not like banter about their height, whereas others just laugh at themselves.

 

hi smallsy <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/wave.gif" alt="" />

[Jenko]

Small Cnnt!

[smallsy]

dont go off topic emfc

[kattyann]

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smallsy said:
great debate.

i think being a racist and trying to cause offence is different.

some black people take comments about their skin colour light heartedly and others real offence. same as some fat people take banter about their weight well and others do not.

some short people may not like banter about their height, whereas others just laugh at themselves.

hi smallsy <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/wave.gif" alt="" />

smallsy that is a very good point. I'm short, fat and ugly, but i can take the banter as i am comfortable with myself and can laugh about it <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

[smallsy]

me and jerry always joke about our skin colour. he laughs at me for being white and vice versa. suppose it depends on the person.

[Kaiser Jnr]

jerry is a genuine chocolate face...

 

smallsy and me and vanilla faces...

 

Hi Borat <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/wave.gif" alt="" />