Best Value Players ?

[Canary Saint]

 

As it was a wet Sunday afternoon (and I need something to take my mind off Saturday's debacle) I decided to devise a little computer programme to see which of city's players gave best value to the team in terms of points, goals for and goals against. I expect a professional statistician would knock holes in my theory but anyway the results were as folling:

 

BEST VALUE AT TOP DOWN TO LEAST VALUE AT BOTTOM

(players had to have started at least 3 games)

 

Defenders

 

Elphick

Seeby

Theobald

Flynn

Oku'hae

Batt

 

Midfield

 

Marwa

Clarke

Wilde

Hann

Davis

Seeby

Nicolas

Cracknell

 

Strikers

 

Martin

Hakim

Clarke

Jackman

 

Based on this the team would be:

 

Bastock

Seeby

Elphick

Theobold

Flynn

Hann

Davis

Marwa

Clarke

Martin

Hakim

 

It would appear that Seeby is better value in defence and that Clarke is more effective in midfield. It also seems that Batt's presence weakens the defence (although this is not to say that this is made up for when he goes forward)

[Boney Maroney]

Just shows how misleading some statistics can be, CS. You probably need to weight the values against the quality of the different opposition for a start. At least Bastock and Elphick are right but Marwa and Martin? And Batt is probably one of the best rb/rwbs we have seen down at the Park in a very long time. I'd agree on 7 of your starting line up, based on the current squad.

[Rob_the_Saint]

Quote:

Bastock

Seeby

Elphick

Theobold

Flynn

Hann

Davis

Marwa

Clarke

Martin

Hakim

 

Batt instead of Hann, Nicolas instead of Marwa, a new left-sided midfielder who tracks back instead of S Martin and you've got a team.

[Canary Saint]

 

 

Batt instead of Hann, Nicolas instead of Marwa, a new left-sided midfielder who tracks back instead of S Martin and you've got a team.

 

Batt instead of Hann I agree with.

 

I also agree with Nicolas instead of Marwa - but long term I think we could do better.

 

Up front I a big old fashioned centre forward is needed to hold the ball up to bring the midfield into play. Hakim would also thrive on knock downs in the penalty area.

 

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[MarkCol]

How does Benyon fit into this?

[Rob_the_Saint]

Someone should introduce Elliot to Paul then they might actually realise they are on the same side and can pass to each other.

[Boney Maroney]

I'd say they are the least of our worries. They looked pretty good together against York City. When they don't get any service, as in the Grays game, it makes interplay somewhat difficult. IMO Batt should play at RB. What we are really missing is an experienced midfield general in charge of things but I'm afraid they don't grow on trees.

[Hatboy]

You can't have Clarke in as a midfielder and striker.

 

And how the hell can Martin be up there the amount he cost us !

 

Bastock, Seebs, Elphick, Theobald, Scottie

Matty, Crackers, Tommy D, Nicolas

Benyon, Haks

 

Would be my team.

[Boney Maroney]

One of those isn't fit, although granted he would be in my side as well, if he was. 2 of the others are not quite up to it IMO.

 

And no Batt? Are you off your trolley?

[clarke is god]

Bastock Batt Theobald Elphick Scotty

 

Hann Davis marwa Nicolas

 

Clarke Hakim

[Electric ~soul~]

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Hatboy said:
You can't have Clarke in as a midfielder and striker.

Of course you can - that was the whole point of his exercise.

His statistics show that Clarke performs better when he's played in a midfield role than when he's played up front.

[Rob_the_Saint]

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clarke is god said:
Bastock Batt Theobald Elphick Scotty

Hann Davis marwa Nicolas

Clarke Hakim

My turn...

Bastock

Seebs Theobald Elphick Flynn

Batt Davis Marwa Nicolas

Clarke Hakim

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[Hatboy]

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clarke is god said:
Bastock Batt Theobald Elphick Scotty

Hann Davis marwa Nicolas

Clarke Hakim

Your having a laugh, No Seeby !

[Hatboy]

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Electric ~soul~ said:
His statistics show that Clarke performs better when he's played in a midfield role than when he's played up front.

No they show that he has been [****!!****] in attack, He hasn't been any good in midfield either it just happens that when he's played there that Hakim has still performed !

[clarke is god]

i dont rate seeby that highly at all, i think hes an average player and gives it his all which in some cases isnt good enough

[Little Miss Urchin]

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Hatboy said:

Quote:

clarke is god said:
Bastock Batt Theobald Elphick Scotty

Hann Davis marwa Nicolas

Clarke Hakim

Your having a laugh, No Seeby !

You think leaving out Seeby is crazy - he's put Bastock in defence! Crowding out the forwards perhaps.

[jls]

i would be inclined to play 3 at the back gary dave and magnus or (b.martin) damien r wingback lee left wingback (scott when fit)chris as a holding midfielder ahead of him tom and lee with paul and elliot up front.no mention of my adopted son but the the team would benefit from patrick replacing seebs as the holding midfielder.this team would more than hold it's own imo

[clarke is god]

3 5 2 is an ok idea i suppose and bastock would make a good centre half lol! but we have to remember Benyon is on loan for only a month who knows if hes going to be here at christmas

[Webbo MFI]

maybe the extra(?) training session last night sorted them out?

[Hatboy]

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clarke is god said:
i dont rate seeby that highly at all, i think hes an average player and gives it his all which in some cases isnt good enough

How do you think he has made the conference team of the week several times this season then ?