Tone it down !

[Stu B]

well said,you took my points and made them into something resembling sense. I think that what really matters is the fleet so lets get behind the team and get us out of this slump(whenever we play next,because Yeovil seems likely to be cancelled). If Stonebridge Road became to bad(for a few weeks) is there anywhere we could possibly switch the match to?e.g.purfleet,gillingham etc.?

[Guest]

Actually I think the problem is segregation.

Gravesend fans , along with every other set of fans , are not all a credit to their club/town. They are a bunch of normal people out to enjoy themselves.

When there is no segregation likeminded people stand together and if you don't like the behaviour or language of the people around you then you would move away segregation takes that option away.

I have nothing at all against the people who stand behind the goal, bang the drum and take the p*ss out of the opposition fans and team but I don't want to stand with them.

I think that the Daggers brought the biggest support with them so far this season, no segregation , no trouble and the best atmosphere of the season.

 

[Guest]

Do GNFC currently have a area in the ground which is designated as a family area?

 

If not then maybe this should become as available in the near future.

 

Some people do swear at football, but when they work hard all week, then meet up with there mates to watch the Fleet, it's not a bat thing at all, If that's as far as it goes - just a shame when it's within earshot of children or women.

[Ronnie]

Not just behind the goal Mr Truth. The halfway line take the p**s out of anything that moves ( and in some cases things that don't move much) and the language can be fairly ripe. Wherever you stand at Stonebridge Road or any other ground the language will be of an adult nature and the comments basic playground, part of the fun. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

[David Holden]

I suspect your best bet will be beside the old tea hut next to the stand, although I don't think there is really anywhere in the ground that is actually out of earshot.

[Ronnie]

Maybe behind the old tea hut then you can't hear and don't have to watch either <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" />

[Richard C]

Taking the piss is definitely part of the fun. Nothing is ever meant by it, unless the player really does get the crowd insensed. Swearing has to be accepted in small doses as there would be no crowd left as everyone would be thrown out!

[Guest]

Quote:

Bad language is embedded into the culture of football. Listen to a typical manager's team talk and you will see this is true. And, at the end of the day, they are only words. Lots of people swore yesterday, no one got killed...

And no doubt the same was said the same about racism, do you find that acceptable? After all that is 'only words'! If not where do you draw the line between what is and is not acceptable?
Nobody is suggesting we all have to stand in silence offering nothing more than polite applause but you can get behind the team without having to f and blind, if you want to criticise then keep it constructive shouting foul mouthed abuse at our players, the opposition or the ref helps nobody. The argument about passion is all too often used as an excuse for yobbish behaviour, do we want football to be somewhere to take the family or do we want to stay in the dark ages?

[Guest]

Your a confused little man ain't you Bill? Swearing is part of football culture. It's gone on for the last 100 years and football stadiums the legnth and width of the UK and far beyond. Like I said earlier for many people football is a release from the pressures of life and in particular the working week.

 

I don't go out my way to use bad language as I'm sure many other fans don't, but I accept that I may use bad language occasionally at football. If your expecting an apology for this then I wouldn't hold your breath because you won't be getting one.

 

If you don't like the language at football then, I'm sure you'd be more at home watching something else. There was swearing at football long before you started watching it and will be for a long time after as well.

[Guest]

I think perhaps you are the 'confused little man', its gone on for 100 years, is that the best you can come with? A release from the pressures of life? In other words you wouldn't get away with it at home or work but the mrs lets you out once a week, more like it? And if your waiting for an apology don't hold your breath 'cos you're not getting one, hahaha!

 

 

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Your a confused little man ain't you Bill? Swearing is part of football culture. It's gone on for the last 100 years and football stadiums the legnth and width of the UK and far beyond. Like I said earlier for many people football is a release from the pressures of life and in particular the working week.

 

I don't go out my way to use bad language as I'm sure many other fans don't, but I accept that I may use bad language occasionally at football. If your expecting an apology for this then I wouldn't hold your breath because you won't be getting one.

 

If you don't like the language at football then, I'm sure you'd be more at home watching something else. There was swearing at football long before you started watching it and will be for a long time after as well.

[Guest]

For me and I’m sure I speak for many other football fans, football is not just about the 90 minutes on the pitch but it goes beyond that. Ok the day is largely dominated by the action on the pitch, but football for me goes beyond that.

 

Like I said it’s a release from the pressures of life – paying bill’s, stress at work, and the Mrs!

 

Meeting up with the mate early in the day for a bite to eat then, maybe a train journey to some far away town. A few beers on the train, a look at the newspapers and a chat with some like-minded individuals. “Cor that bird so-and-son pulled the other night….what a wrong-un - I wouldn’t mind a bit of that young bird out of that pop group – or, our centre-forward.what a waste of money, I could do better” can all be heard by men relaxing at football.

 

I can’t understand why someone would set foot in a stadium, if knowing what it were like before entry they suddenly start criticising those who go there. I wouldn’t go to the opera or an ice-hockey match and criticise the paying spectators who go there, so I don’t take kindly with people doing the same to my beloved football!

 

[Alan W (GNFC)]

What I find more annoying are those sad fans who think it amusing to take the mickey out of fellow supporters who are getting behind their team - it might be amusing the first time, but it happens at virtually every match. If these people spent as much effort cheering the team, their efforts would be much more appreciated.

 

Whilst I dont want my kids growing up swearing regularly, I hope that, as a responsible parent, I can bring them up to understand that they shouldnt use swearing as standard everyday language.

 

We all swear occasionally at least, particularly as a release of emotion, and I dont see that it would ever be totally stamped out.

 

And, in any event, I believe that the Oxford English Dictionary now includes many swear words in the normal everyday words.

 

There are far worse things that happen in the world, and whilst this does not necessarily justify swearing, it puts it into perspective.

 

To use Racism as a parallel as someone did earlier, also seems to be a little unreasonable, as it is a totally different scenario - one particular group of people being singled out for abuse rather than words thrown about for the sake of it.

[Guest]

Just to give my final thoughts, I pretty much agree with Alan, I don't want my kids swearing and I'm sure any other responsible parent is the same, having said that most of us do swear at least occasionally, albeit a 'slip of the tongue' but does anyone really want to stand or sit next to some brainless half wit who is f-ing and blinding throughout the game, and you usually find those with the biggest mouths have the least knowledge of the game, if these are the sort of people Alan says get the mickey taken in most cases they ask for it! It was me who mentioned racism, the point is that is 'only words' as somebody said swearing is, I don't see how you can condemn one and condone the other.

Anyway, weather permitting, I'll be getting behind the team tomorrow without using foul and abusive language, I'll also offer some constructive criticism if neccasary but I won't stand shouting abuse at the ref, and before anyone else does they should make sure they know the laws of the game themselves, otherwise they could look rather foolish!

[Richard C]

Half the time I don’t think it’s the referees that are wrong, in fact they never are! As far as their rules go they are always booking somebody for something, it is interpretation of these rules which gets most peoples backs up! When is foul play actually foul play or the opponent cheating and the referee being blind to it? Its a touchy one! Sometimes they use the rules wrongly and this is annoying!

[Guest]

Ref's do inevitably make mistakes but I wouldn't fancy their job, if there are numerous yellow and red cards issued the ref is blamed for ruining the game if he doesn't issue them he is accused of being weak, they can't win. Players don't help by appealing for penalties, free kicks, throw ins etc that they know they aren't entitled too.

[David Holden]

Nobody askes refs to be perfect Bill just consistant.

 

Take Wednesday for example the ref (quite rightly) booked Justin for his tackle from behind, but completely ignored Sodje wrestling Matt Lee (I think) to the ground.

 

That more than anything winds the fans up.