Aldershot trouble

[Sth_London_Fleet]

I see that once again Aldershot thugs attacked the Dagenham & Redbridge coaches with rubble and bricks (with fans as young as four on there) in the high street and fans at the railway station. I think the league should take some sort of action along side the police, in my past four visits to the Recreation Ground I've seen conkers, stones & eggs being thrown from outside the ground, ironically at this seasons game I saw nothing.

According to the NLP attendances are on the up through out the conference in general but if any of this news about agro appears in other papers they will soon be on the decline again. There is always a police presence at ground but surely the old bill must have worked out by now that if it's going to happen it happens outside the ground or at the station.

[GNFC til i die]

There wasnt any trouble at this years game but there was alot of intimidation. especially from a group of teenagers and a bloke in an england shirt giving cut throat gestures to us. was also quite funny when an aldershot fan bout 40 had put a jumper over his shirt and joined us in the away end at half time, as the stewards took him away he started giving us alot of lip and was applauded by the teenagers.

[KShep]

I heard a couple of years ago that some teenagers got violent at the station to Fleet fans, so I wasn't too keen to get the train to the Shots game.

[GNFC til i die]

Yes when we drew 2-2 there a couple of years back there was trouble at the station

[Gordon T]

I had forgotten what some of their fans in the east bank were like. madness. I cant believe it was like 40 year olds alongside, which would be encouragement to the teenagers. And they started cos we were 2-0 up

[Fleetbabe]

It's disappointing to think that there are some mindless so called fans who would do something like that to away supporters. It's discusting, and I don't know how those people can call themselves fans.

[Nagasaki]

They say trouble in the ground is the clubs responsibility and outside its criminal and down to the police, well for one its all criminal!

 

I think if its football related inside or out the club or clubs should be fined for it. It may not be fair but the clubs do turn a convenient blind eye to it and nothing can improve matters unless the clubs take some ownership of the situation, be it life bans or private prosecution to recover potential fines received.

 

Maybe the clubs should produce some risk assessment on away travel and advise their supporters of some kind of safety plan.

 

If Aldershot are notorious why the hell havent they been penalised for it.

 

Fine them deduct points, serious points, you have to find some way of hurting these thugs.

[Graham S]

Aldershot are a relatively big club in non league terms, with a large home & travelling support. They have some of the most fair minded & well informed supporters in the non league game, who have traded good natured mutual windups & encouragement with us on this forum since it first existed.

 

On the other hand, they also seem to have been unlucky enough to have attracted permanently some total scumbags. We have always been afflicted by ossasional infiltrations of this type of pond life (the Burbery hat crew at the Notts Co. game & the morons who rushed Barnet supporters in the Plough End, one of them weilding a crutch like an insane Long John Silver, many years ago.) Fortunately, they haven't "stuck." But if we were ever to attract crowds of 2-3,000 let's not fool ourselves, they might well become a permanent nuisance.

 

If this were ever to happen, I hope we would act soon & effectively enough to root it out. It's been an unpleasant aspect of some of Aldershot's "support" for far too long I feel. Not helped a few years back by their employing a mangement team who, in my opinion, sent out the message that it was ok to be a thug & associated with Aldershot FC. There will be many Fleet supporters who remember the Aldershot physio coming onto the pitch to assault one of our players & the then manager, George Borg's attempt to deflect the police when they arrived. How the Shots Board didn't sack Mr Borg & his physio on the spot is beyond me. IMO, through not doing so they sent out a very dangerous message.

 

Terry Brown is as much a credit to the non league game as the true Shots supporters I mentioned at the start, but I believe an awful lot of damage was done by his predecessor.

 

That's just my opinion, of course.

 

Graham S

[Nagasaki]

Well said Graham, and probably right. I still say the way to make clubs aware is to fine heavily, deduct points heavily, they will then be more eager to address the problem.

 

I accept that you wont get the root, its unfortunately tribalism, a social disease, some friendly like the fleet at present and probably the majority of teams, some nasty like Aldershot and a few others.

 

The offenders should at least be seen to try and minimise the problem.

[Nagasaki]

Maybe if there are willing parties on both sets of supporters, set up an equal team of thugs from both sides, stick them in a big cage on the pitch at half time and let them get on with it, a sort of alternative option to the crossbar challenge!

[Slartibartfast]

Its hard to disagree with Grahams thoughts on Borgs Aldershot but just in case anyone is not convinced....

A Borg special

[eufckev]

Luckily I did not go by train, as I was going to. thanks, Scott you probably saved my life!!

[Nagasaki]

Wasnt that an Elton John song?

 

"Somebody saved my life tonight"

 

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[Slartibartfast]

No, 'Scott you probably saved my life' is a quote from Thunderbirds episodes 1, 3, 4, 6, 7 to 24 inclusive, 27, 28, 30 and 32.

[Sth_London_Fleet]

thanks for the first laugh of my day at work, Slartibartfast.

[ifa]

and Terry and June, surely!

[eufckev]

Quote:

Slartibartfast said:
No, 'Scott you probably saved my life' is a quote from Thunderbirds episodes 1, 3, 4, 6, 7 to 24 inclusive, 27, 28, 30 and 32.

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