The echo

[Guest]

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Ribbit said:
Stop talking such over-dramatic rubbish, MOB.

Ballocks!!

I have read until now, with ammusement your constant negative comments, there is a difference between being realistic and a down right misery guts and you are the latter!

Contrary to your earlier comments, it means a lot to me, the majority of our supporters and players when we beat any team in a sarfend shirt!!

There is no way you can convince me it meant nothing to the players on the pitch on either side, you only had to see our smiles and listen to their moans!!

We have just come through a real negative time at Canvey losing some real friends such as Wardy, Greggors et al.

No so long ago we were worried we had no future, the club has pulled itself up by the scruff of its a^se and had a fantastic pre season. I will enjoy every second of it and sing the praises of every player and staff member at Canvey that has worked tirelessly to turn us around with dignity.

You attitude is that of the sniper and moaner that always wants to play down other peoples efforts!!

That is the attitude that made Jeff search his sole and move of!!

All I know is, from when you get to the turnstile, go to the bar, watch the team come out, listen to fellow supporters its all smiles, hopes and expectations from everybody, where a few months ago there was none. Every result no matter who against and every tackle won fills us with further hope.



If that is rubbish fine, excuse me for not joining you misery guts!!

[Ribbit]

I didn't say the result meant nothing. I said the match meant nothing. There is a difference.

Of course it felt good beating a Southend team, but it may as well have been the Southend U10's for all it means.

 

I don't see the point in the arguement anyway, since you're too blinded by your love for Canvey to even recognise any other team.

[Guest]

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Ribbit said:
I didn't say the result meant nothing. I said the match meant nothing. There is a difference.
Of course it felt good beating a Southend team, but it may as well have been the Southend U10's for all it means.

I don't see the point in the arguement anyway, since you're too blinded by your love for Canvey to even recognise any other team.

More Ballocks!!!

No game means anything other than the winner wins and everyone else does not, the point is they came to win and they did not, so we won!!

Even if it was a cup match, it does not mean by winning we will achieve world peace it means we won, we can only play what is put in front of us and so far we have done fantastic against everything that has been put in front of us!!

We would not have played their under 10's, so we can forget that bit!!

Probably because you are 1/2 sarfend yourself you struggle to be as committed as most others to CIFC, as you cant see my point maybe it is you that are blinded, by your negativity!!

I think I have a fairly balanced view and that is I support CIFC and if they have their back against the wall as they have recently I will do all I can to support them.

I will not come on here saying that the prices are to expensive or some of the negative drivel you have shared recently.

I suggest you should spend some time celebrating how well we are doing and you might enjoy it!!

[boyblunder]

It does not really matter who had played for Southend because at the end off the day you can only beat what is put up against you. A victory is a victory. Lets keep believing in the team and take their enthusism forward into the coming season. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/applaus.gif" alt="" />

[Ribbit]

I'm quite disgusted that you suggest I'm 'half Southend'. I will be going to see Southend this season (outline plan Vs. Norwich 14 September), but only when I'm not working and only when Canvey aren't playing. I also only live ten minutes from Roots Hall, so it'd be rude not to, really.

I'm not 'half' anything. I'm 100% behind Canvey Island Football Club and just why you seem to think that 'I'm struggling to be as commited as other Canvey fans' is beyond me. I don't struggle in any sense of the word.

I get to as many games as I can and have been to four of our friendlies, and since you suggest I'm a Shrimper, one Southend game.

 

This is starting to verge on the same repulsive argument I had with Glenn a while ago and I'm not having it again here.

 

However, on the other comment you made, I don't see the problem in suggesting the prices are too high. They are. I will always pay them and when I said that I wasn't proposing for a minute that I wouldn't, but that the casual fan may be put off. That was all. How that's 'negative drivel', I don't know.

 

I'm not negative for the sake of being negative in the slightest. I was gutted when Jeff walked at the end of the season and everything I said was probably negative. Everything everyone said was probably negative. The more the weeks and months have gone on though, the more positive things have become. I can see we've got a very decent team who should be up there challenging this season, but that doesn't mean I'm going to look at things through my yellow tinted glasses.

 

If being realistic is construed as being negative, then I don't see the point in having a forum. Where's the debate if we all agree that we're doing fantastic (we are) even if we're not? Things aren't going to go well for us the whole time and I'm certainly not one to jump on players backs when they don't, but that doesn't mean I won't come on here and air my feelings.

[Guest]

Ribbit!! You Numpty do not take it personal you said

 

"then I don't see the point in having a forum. Where's the debate"

 

I think you will find we're having the debate!!!

 

You also said your not negative for the sake of being negative, that is not the way it comes across!!

 

PS Just the thought of giving money to sarfend which they will use to build their tea, does not sit well with me!!

[Ribbit]

I know and it doesn't sit well with quite a few on here, but it doesn't bother me. In fact, I'd probably go the other way - I'd put money into their coffers 'cause it'll help Essex football in the long run.

Also, I didn't see the point in hating Southend when there was one division between us, so I certainly don't now there are six. In cup matches and friendlies obviously it's nice to beat them but it could be a long while before we get any sort of real rivalry with them. A long, long while.

[YELLOW]

Nothing against Southend as a team or Tilly, it's just the attitude and arrogance of some of their supporters that gets up my nose.

[The Great Eckscape]

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MOB said:
I was at the other match!!

You know the one where Canvey young guns took on a team nade up with at least half a dozen championship players and a few more who were there to try convince their manager to give them a chance at that level.

I was at the game where our young guns battled for and won balls that they had no right to win!

I was at the game where we fought with real spirit, where our youngsters fought through gritted teeth against all the odds and overcame far superior opposition!

I was at the game where a young inexperienced keeper despite a few jitters made three outstanding championship class saves!!

We made our luck and rode it all the way home like a championship jockey!!!

I must have seen you MOB, cos I was at that game too!

End of the day, if football was about the better team winning then it would be an extremely boring game. Southend had many chances and didn't take any. We had decent chances and took the important one.

I would however dispute our goal being "jammy." Charlie Parker ran like a man possessed to challenge the keeper, something I do not feel he has been given credit for with comments like jammy goal.

[The Great Eckscape]

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Ribbit said:
I'm quite disgusted that you suggest I'm 'half Southend'. I will be going to see Southend this season (outline plan Vs. Norwich 14 September), but only when I'm not working and only when Canvey aren't playing. I also only live ten minutes from Roots Hall, so it'd be rude not to, really.
I'm not 'half' anything. I'm 100% behind Canvey Island Football Club and just why you seem to think that 'I'm struggling to be as commited as other Canvey fans' is beyond me. I don't struggle in any sense of the word.
I get to as many games as I can and have been to four of our friendlies, and since you suggest I'm a Shrimper, one Southend game.

This is starting to verge on the same repulsive argument I had with Glenn a while ago and I'm not having it again here.

However, on the other comment you made, I don't see the problem in suggesting the prices are too high. They are. I will always pay them and when I said that I wasn't proposing for a minute that I wouldn't, but that the casual fan may be put off. That was all. How that's 'negative drivel', I don't know.

I'm not negative for the sake of being negative in the slightest. I was gutted when Jeff walked at the end of the season and everything I said was probably negative. Everything everyone said was probably negative. The more the weeks and months have gone on though, the more positive things have become. I can see we've got a very decent team who should be up there challenging this season, but that doesn't mean I'm going to look at things through my yellow tinted glasses.

If being realistic is construed as being negative, then I don't see the point in having a forum. Where's the debate if we all agree that we're doing fantastic (we are) even if we're not? Things aren't going to go well for us the whole time and I'm certainly not one to jump on players backs when they don't, but that doesn't mean I won't come on here and air my feelings.

I am similar to Ribbit in that I have no problem going to watch Southend or any other club. I would never miss a Canvey game to go elsewhere, but if a game I fancy is available then I'll attend. Don't think Ribbit's half Southend at all, but could be a bit more positive <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

[Ribbit]

Thanks. I am negative in general, but I don't think I'm overly so.

[A Non E Mouse]

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YELLOW said:
Nothing against Southend as a team or Tilly, it's just the attitude and arrogance of some of their supporters that gets up my nose.

If I had won a couple of promotions and was playiing in the Championship with an opening win against Stoke then I'd be rather arrogant as well!

Don't forget that "arrogance" was an accusation slung at Canvey fans a fair few seasons back - not deserved I'll add. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

I used to watch Southend regularly many moons ago, including Pennyfather and Tilson.

Be interesting to see how people will view the Canvey v Spurs XI game afterwards - especially with joint loyalty. Prior to the game I would imagine that it is just a chance to see the two clubs that some people love - and I don't suppose they will read much more into it than that.

[Ribbit]

Oh yeah, I don't think we're in a position to call anyone arrogant. Not that I'd blame anyone for being so. A quick rise through the leagues is always going to do that.

[South Mouth]

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Ribbit said:
I'm not 'half' anything. I'm 100% behind Canvey Island Football Club and just why you seem to think that 'I'm struggling to be as commited as other Canvey fans' is beyond me.

Then why dont you fu*king show it once in a while? MOB is right. A win against Southend is a great result and if we had played badly or were not the better side then why were we 0-0 for the whole game and then went on to score the 'winning' goal? Who cares if we were under the cosh sometimes? The fact is we were holding a Championship side who whether they wanted to or not should have whooped our ars*s for an entire game with a barely tested side. That in itself, whether its a friendly or not (I cant believe you said that. There are no friendly's between us lot. Just remember the last time we played them in a friendly or were you not there?) is a great acheivement that should be recognised by supporters and praised.

See, that's what true supporters do. They take a situation like that where players did really well when they weren't expected to and praise them because soon the hard work begins and there is nothing more downhearted for a player than hearing supporters moan and be negative when there is a lot of pressure on these players to perform for our fans who have just been at the top of the non league pyramid.

You shrug of the fact that your negative very easily and that worrys me. As a Canvey fan for years now, i look around at the people that i am friends with there and there is not one negative face and that is what i love about the attitude of this club. So when i hear you say these things, i struggle to know why your even a supporter of this great little club. Dont get me wrong, i want everyone to come over here and support this club, even you Ribbit but there needs to be supporters here, especially now, that support and give the club encouragement all the time. Maybe not if we truly dont deserve it but after a 1-0 win over Southend United, a championship side and a really big local rival, we so do. And that is not what your seeing ands that is a huge problem with a lot of us.

[Ribbit]

On a similar basis to you questioning why I support Canvey, I wonder why anyone would want to bother when they're accused of not being committed, or being half a fan. Just because I have a different view does not make it any less warranted. Like I said before, if we all agree there's no point having a forum. I'm not going to change the way I talk about things and I certainly don't feel I have to justify my support to anyone.

[Matt H]

I think we're detracting from the point.

 

If we played against Spurs as we did against Southend, I find it hard to believe that those on here that follow Spurs will play down Canvey's performance by making the excuse(s) of "Oh it was only Spurs Reserves", "It meant nothing to Spurs" etc.

 

The point would be to applaud and acknowledge that our young squad matched a team full of professional, full-time players that could well be playing in the Premiership anytime soon.

[Ribbit]

Alright, I accept your point, Matt.

[Guest]

hooorayy!!!!!

[Ribbit]

What? I didn't ever say that we didn't play well. My whole point was, I didn't see anything wrong with the article in question.

[canveyboy18]

the thing wrong with it is that it was meant to be our echo we play very good football never, gave up and kept on fighting till the end and we got fu*k all from the echo who is meant to help us get crowds in!!! hows that going to help us??? if they are not going to help us then fu*k them!!