Spurs are at it again - Pure Vandalism!

[andyetfc]

Anybody tried getting up and down Southbury Road recently? Nightmare or what!

[Duke of York]

I'm not too sure what the hold up is. I found it much quicker to divert via Sketty Road nipping back onto Southbury.

[Hawkeye Pierce]

Try walking!

[andyetfc]

The hold up is the sheer amount of traffic trying to get through the Town after the recent new design and layout of the 'vastly improved' road system!

[andyetfc]

Interesting reading in the Gazette today. Something about Spurs possibly assisting the Council with the redevelopment of the QE2 for use by ETFC. Front page so I am not making this up.

 

Now where did I read something on this forum about section 106 agreements???

[Arkwright]

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andyetfc said:
Anybody tried getting up and down Southbury Road recently? Nightmare or what!

Not as much fun as trying to get through the traffic in Waltham Abbey & Waltham Cross since the work started at Holmesdale!!!.

[Lil Dave]

ok if spurs was to get planning permision and said that we could use the facilities, like a joint training ground what would people say then because i am quite happy for spurs to move in if an agreement can be made.

[MbrunoB]

And then we could keep running our team with no bar takings and pay them a higher price for the honour than we pay now, seems like a win win situation for us.

[lovely stuff]

No bar takings??? Pay for the hire of the ground???

 

Why do you think either of those two things would automatically happen?? For Spurs to comply with 106 agreement,i would suggest that our club (or the council on our behalf) are in a good position to negotiate a favourable arrangement (that idealy could well include nominal rent and the taking of our own bar receits)

 

Of course,this is only just conjecture and speculation at present.With a groundshare with Spurs at QE11,a long way off(if it ever happens).Let alone final details and arrangements.It is a promising step though.

[MbrunoB]

Of course I forgot Spurs & the council want to make money for everyone else and are not concerned with making it for themselves, now I really do fell silly. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />

[lovely stuff]

I feel you prejudice against Spurs is clouding your judgement.

 

Yes, anything Spurs or the council do for ETFC will be because 'they' would benifit out of it.BUT if their actions also benifit OUR club in the process,why moan.

[MbrunoB]

No, I am just concerned about Enfield Town F.C. and the income that will be needed to take OUR club on.

[Jim Cunneen]

LS - forgive people for being cynical. Anyone who was around at Southbury Road is bound to be that way. Trust is somthing that has to be earned and no one has earned that from an ETFC point of view.

 

I suspect it has more to do with that natural cynicism than the fact that it is Spurs. Speaking for myself I would, and do, carry Brunobs sentiments whoever was involved. If Tottenham, and again I repeat whoever!, are saying anything about helping ETFC it is only to further their own cause and not to do somthing out of the goodness of their hearts. I have concerns which I think are quite natural.

 

Jim

 

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[lovely stuff]

Why the concern about Spurs doing it for their own good.The main criteria should be,WOULD any proposal be in the interests of ETFC.Whether it would also benifit another club,is irrelivent.

 

If we didn't recieve bar money,we wouldn't be interested.

 

If running costs were much higher than Brimsdown,we wouldn't be interested.

 

Whats to be confused or concerned about??

[MbrunoB]

Because spurs ARE only doing it for their own good not OUR club or the borough that they want to move into.

[lovely stuff]

SO WHAT???

 

Brimsdown are only letting Town groundshare for their OWN good.We don't give a monkeys what Brimsdowns motives are,because the arrangement benifits OUR club.

 

The same should apply to Spurs.If they agree to build us a two million pound conference-grade ground,i don't give monkeys what their motives were in doing so.

[Jim Cunneen]

for goodness sake, how many more times

 

THE CONCERNS HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH IT BEING SPURS.

 

I dont give a tinkers cuss who it is!

 

No one is going to give us something for nothing. Why do you have such a problem with anyone voicing an opinion that is different to yours. If you bothered to read what people are saying then half the arguments wouldn't happen.

 

It has nothing to do wiht Spurs! People are just expressing concerns, nothing more - nothing less! THis forum is for people to discuss things on in a rational matter. Stop trying to tell people what to think! <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/icon_smokin.gif" alt="" />

[lovely stuff]

Jim.Please read posts more carefully.I have made NO mention in the last couple of posts about anyone being biased 'because' it is Spurs.The arguement had moved on too whether it was right to accept a proposal to benifit OUR club, if that proposal was only offered because the other party were doing it for their own interests.I suggested that our only concern should be OUR own interests,not what the other party are or are not getting out of the deal.

 

Spurs,Brimsdown WHOEVER.They are all in it for themselves.Any team who ever agree to allow a groundshare with another club, only do it to benifit their OWN interests.

 

You say that no one is going to give you something for nothing.of course not.Who ever suggested that?

If Spurs redevelop the QE11 for ETFC, they will do that for the SOLE purpose of securing planning permission on the Bulls Lane site.The plan would be mutually benificial to them,and as a consequence,ETFC as well.If we as a club don't like or agree to their proposal.We say NO.

[andyetfc]

Which could leave the door open for another non league club to accept!

 

No doubt Monday's meeting at the Council will be interesting.

[lovely stuff]

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Which could leave the door open for another non league club to accept!

 

Exactly.Thats why we must take any offer very seriously.