Bromley Commentry

[Jimmy]

11 was Chris Triantis - played a few games for the reserves but usually as a more central holding player.

 

16 was Jack Roberts - decent youngster who is worth more of a look in in the future.

 

It was curious as to why Triantis played when Fuller could have played in the left and either Johnson or Slatter in the middle and on the right.

[Fleetbabe]

You couldn't deny last night that 3 games in 6 days has taken it's toll on the side. Looking at the team that started last night, 7 of them (Craig, Ross, Dan, Slatts, Brad, Luke and James) all played on Tuesday night.

 

Danny's shot was unstoppable, and in my opinion, from where I was standing, their winner looked offside. We had a penalty appeal turned down, and so did they. When the ball came back off of James, it looked to be over the line, but the linesman was so far behind play it was unbelievable.

 

One thing I will say is that we need to look forward now, to next season, not dwell on last night.

 

I'm just hoping that Craig is ok, and that his injury isn't as bad as it looked.

[mikefleet]

didnt go last night and now im glad. no news about the game on radio kent this morning either, poor all round on everyones account i think. roll on 4:45 tommorow and get some players and new manager in

[Fleetbabe]

Well, I did go last night, and considering that they have played 3 games in 6 days, you couldn't fault the effort in the second half and in extra time.

[Stu M]

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Fleetbabe said:
I'm just hoping that Craig is ok, and that his injury isn't as bad as it looked.

I doubt it'll sway him to sign a new contract either way...

[James GNFC]

Sorry CG you are obviously missing the point yet again. Liam was as I am sure he will tell the KCFA if they decide to take the matter further that he was trying to bring on Aaron for and injured player and the fact that the first goal was conceded was all due to the linesman being a prat and getting a descison wrong.

 

As regards to Liam during the season he was set a task to do by the Board and he has completed that task to the best of his ablities.

 

The reson as to why the KCFA decided to put a Ref who was only 18 and looked as if he should be delivering newspapers insted of refing a Cup Final is a matter which will have to be rased with that other prat at KCFA Keith Masters.

 

I am sure CG that if you would like to raise your points with Liam and Alan they would be happy to listen to you but with some of the rubbish you have been going on about on her I doubt they would listen somehow.

 

Just picking up on your point about Wages do we really care and is it up to the fans to decide how much money we are paying to players??? I am sure that is up to the management and the board.

 

Andy Ford if I am not wrong is no longer at Stevenage unless you missed that peice of news CG.

 

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[Hempstead Gaz]

Couldn't fault the effort the boys put in last night, most of them looked dead on their feet by the end - and who can bleme them?

Taken in isolation a 3-2 defeat away against a big, strong and physical side such as Bromley woulsn't be considered a disgrace, expecially as the team is so tired and so threadbare - but it does pose the question why has it been allowed to deteriorate to such an extent?

I have a hunch the club have financial issues that are not being mentioned, part of which is the reason for the expected cull after tommorrow.

 

Have we really made any progress in the last year or so, having turned from proabably the best part-time club in the country to one of the worst full time clubs?

 

At the end of the day, fans, players, forum moderators, official web site administrators and the board can spin out no end of reasons and excuses for our situation - which most would agree is pretty bleak, but ultimately it is the manager who must carry the can, he signed the players, he decides the type of training, he picks the sides, he motivates them and he decides on tactics.

[Stu M]

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Chatham Gary said:
Have we really made any progress in the last year or so, having turned from proabably the best part-time club in the country to one of the worst full time clubs?

No, I don't think we have progressed, you're right there. But I think there was always a danger that going from a decent part-time club to one of the worst full-time clubs was probably quite a natural step in our first season, and it will be interesting to see how Southport and Tamworth are affected next season. Next year is crucial, much more so than this season.

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the manager who must carry the can, he signed the players, he decides the type of training, he picks the sides, he motivates them and he decides on tactics.

I think, despite the many opinions about us getting relegated, that last summer was one of the busier and better periods of transfer activity the Fleet have enjoyed in any summer in recent memory. A lot of players arrived at the club, most of them quite decent. Trouble is, because we've fallen away so badly, and the latter half of the season has been woeful, Daish has to do it all again this year, perhaps on a lower budget. As I said above, next season is crucial, as is the clearout and rebuilding of this side over the summer. Get that wrong, and we're in for a long, hard slog.

[John Pearce]

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Stu M said:
Daish has to do it all again this year, perhaps on a lower budget. As I said above, next season is crucial, as is the clearout and rebuilding of this side over the summer. Get that wrong, and we're in for a long, hard slog.

You are probably right about Daish having to rebuild the side in preparation for next season on a lower budget. The worrying thing is that he has hardly done a very good job with the budget he had for this season, god only knows what we can expect from him next season.

Kids from the North Kent Sunday League probably??? and his excuse for much of the problems this season was lack of experience, you wait until next season!

Looking from the outside inwards the whole thing looks like a disaster and a complete and utter farce.

At a time when the club arguably has the greatest opportunity to go forward; new ground etc.etc. At a time when the club also perhaps faces its biggest threat; the possibility of Gillingham moving to the town. We have the current situation. No wonder the club is losing support hand over fist.

[Hempstead Gaz]

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James GNFC said:
Sorry CG you are obviously missing the point yet again. Liam was as I am sure he will tell the KCFA if they decide to take the matter further that he was trying to bring on Aaron for and injured player and the fact that the first goal was conceded was all due to the linesman being a prat and getting a descison wrong.

As regards to Liam during the season he was set a task to do by the Board and he has completed that task to the best of his ablities.

The reson as to why the KCFA decided to put a Ref who was only 18 and looked as if he should be delivering newspapers insted of refing a Cup Final is a matter which will have to be rased with that other prat at KCFA Keith Masters.

I am sure CG that if you would like to raise your points with Liam and Alan they would be happy to listen to you but with some of the rubbish you have been going on about on her I doubt they would listen somehow.

Just picking up on your point about Wages do we really care and is it up to the fans to decide how much money we are paying to players??? I am sure that is up to the management and the board.

Andy Ford if I am not wrong is no longer at Stevenage unless you missed that peice of news CG.

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Not sure where you are coming from James. I haven't damned Daish in my posting. In fact I had some sympathy for his well justified rant.
It did leave the ref with no alternative, though.

I have always gone on record in saying that Liam is one of the best talent spotters we have had, probably as good as Fordy.

I reiterate that being professional is doing the little things correctly. For example at half time , Holloway was left to hop across the pitch unaided; he looked in agony - why couldn't someone give him a helping hand. Has it made his injury worse? If he is out of contract after Saturday, did the club care?
Why didn't Kerr have a shirt?
Why didn't we kick the ball out to enable Craig's substitution?
My old Sunday league were better prepared than that.
It just gives the impression of a club that has lost it's way and lo longer cares.

As for wages, yes as a fan I do care. If Luke IS getting only £75 per week here, it gives him the option of getting more cash at almost every Kent league club upwards. If the club think he is such a good prospect, then if his wages are correct the club seem to be douing precious little to keep him here.
I think he is a real prospect. Add a stone and bulk up in the summer, he could be a real handfull, but will he stay if he can double his wages at Dartford/Maidstone/Welling/Margate/Ramsgate/Dover/Tonbridge/Bromley?
Would you?

It is hardly conducive to team spirit if there IS such a huge disparity between the salary of junior players to old veterens. I would expect some differences, based on age, expereience and seniority at the club, but the club does need a transparent wage structure if it is to succeed as a full time outfit.
We are a small club, and simply cannot affords to have 1 or 2 stars on huge wages, it always ends in tears.

As for Andy Ford, I'm sure he would have given Westley the low down on ANY players he thought would do a good job for Satanage during his time there.
Fleet players would have been his expertise.
Westley may be a figure of hate , but he is not stupid. He has to rebuild his own team for next season, why would he not look at the likes of Drury, Slatter or Johnson?

[John Pearce]

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Chatham Gary said:

Rumours, rumours, rumours were abounding last night on the terraces, most of which were seriously damaging, ranging from High Court actions because of share prices, legal actions by the protheroe camp, wages of £75 PER WEEK to Luke Moore whilst Paul McCarthy picks up £750+.
Rumours of Fleet being almost bankrupt, hence the loan signings of cheap 18 year old, the ridding of quality part timers such as Jay, Jacko,Macca and Skins, not only because they are part time, but because of their wages.

As you say CG only rumours, but as you also say there is rarely smoke without fire.

If the club are aware of the rumours then they really should come clean and respond to them, as soon as is possible. Otherwise what confidence is left in the club and the what support the club still enjoys will be seriously undermined even further than it currently is.

The sad thing is that the recent history of the club with regard to communication is very poor, so I wouldn't bet your house on it happening.

[Graham S]

I went last night with a friend who has been a Birmingham City season ticket holder for the best part of 3 decades & had never before seen a non league game. He said: he was surprised by the quality of football which was much higher than he'd expected; that the game wasn't won by the better team - Bromley just wouldn't lie down & took the breaks they were given; there were 2 longish periods, one in each half, where we just held possession & imposed ourselves on the game when it looked like we would win it easily.

 

I was disappointed by the result but it was a cracking game for a neutral to watch & the team we put out played with commitment & had some bad luck at crucial moments (classically the goalie's double save to rectify his own ballsup.) I was disappointed with giving away the free kick which led to their equalizer: their crosses from open play were easy to deal with; from dead balls they were much better than I expected & we should have done our best to avoid them. I groaned lodest when we surrendered possession going forward at 2-2, a moment of casualness which led immediately to what proved to be the (very well taken) winner.

 

I very much hope the rumours about financial constraints & Danny Slatter are just that - rumours. Danny was MOM by several lengths last night. When I get time I'll stick a video clip of his volley hitting the net on here. Unfortunately I haven't quite caught it leaving his boot, but you can see what a goal it was all the same.

 

Graham S

[Hempstead Gaz]

I thought Bradley Johnson run Slats closely. Playing way beyond his 18 years.

Clearly a classy prospect, and is scoring goals as well.

[Hirsty]

....so you will be changing your name again then FF ? of course FF could stand for Fleet Follower.....or maybe, with a greater field size, you could add a constraint ? something like ...Fleet Fanatic when they are doing well, but when they are not doing well, I won't bother about them anymore ?

 

Just a thought, nothing personal !

 

Regards,

[John Pearce]

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Hirsty said:
....so you will be changing your name again then FF ? of course FF could stand for Fleet Follower.....or maybe, with a greater field size, you could add a constraint ? something like ...Fleet Fanatic when they are doing well, but when they are not doing well, I won't bother about them anymore ?

Just a thought, nothing personal !

As far as I am concerned FF can call himself exactly what he wants.

Its all very well having a cheap 'dig' at him for honestly admitting that he prefers to go and watch West Ham rather the rubbish being served at Stonebridge Road, but he probably isn't alone. Certainly by the number of so called 'missing fans' he isn't the only one that has decided to go and watch their football elsewhere.

[Matt (GNFC)]

I came solidly to all home games for 18years. This season is the most games ive ever missed, why, becuase there's nothing to motivate me to come down and watch the games. Bring back Andy Ford, get some passion back at the club with players who really want to play for the club and the fans will come back. Lets get Daish out after the Burton game, its a shambles it really is.

[John Pearce]

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Matt (GNFC) said:
I came solidly to all home games for 18years. This season is the most games ive ever missed, why, becuase there's nothing to motivate me to come down and watch the games. Bring back Andy Ford, get some passion back at the club with players who really want to play for the club and the fans will come back. Lets get Daish out after the Burton game, its a shambles it really is.

Another one....who's next?

[FleetFanatic]

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Hirsty said:
...Fleet Fanatic when they are doing well, but when they are not doing well, I won't bother about them anymore ?

Oh yeah and Gravesend have been ever so successful in the conference, haven't they?
Just like I had a crystal ball to forsee how West Ham's season will pan out?
Gravesend in the Football league? It'll never happen.
That's the reality - it's a pipe dream.
Gravesend can't attract the fanbase it needs nor keep them.
The club won't help itself so why should I anymore?
The majority of supporters are treated with distaste - dare to slag off performances and you get a message from the chairman criticising people for daring to speak their opinions.
I like Brian but that is one thing that has left a bitter taste.

50k loss in the first season in the conference - how expensive will this season prove to be???

I enjoyed the performances under Andy Ford - Daish is a clown.

Feel free to continue the lambasting but I'm only one of many.

[KShep]

Didn't go last night- coursework to do and no lift! Sounds like we were hard done by to lose, and I won't try and put the defeat in line with the disappointing performances and losses this year.

 

However, the squad don't look at all motivated- especially at the Woking game, there was an air about the place similar to the many pre-season friendlies we have- by no means the atmosphere of a league game in which we beat formidable opposition. And things do not look to be getting better, as rumours about the ground, debts, our better players leaving etc accumulate, hopefully they remain rumours. We have taken steps back- last year we finished 14th, with 50 points (granted, Fordy's first half of the season didn't exactly help matters) and this year we can finish at 13th at the highest- 17th at the lowest, with the possibility of emulating last year's total by two. A new manager and his new ideas, the new players he brought in, the prosperity of Gravesham should have brought along at least some progress, but it obviously hasn't. There were rumours that Hessenthaler was interested in the Margate job- why not invite him here? Daish looks to be taking us down into the Conf South, and whilst things continue to plummet at this rate, why not take a slight chance on something that could be very rewarding?

[Robbo]

Can anyone tell us the team from last night and preferably the numbers? Had no idea who was who without names on their backs. I'd like to know how many first teamers actually played though, didn't recognise a lot of 'em.