Harrow result

[Arkwright]

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andyetfc said:
The news is to remember to follow our result on Saturday.

I have news for you, Brunob - I will not win the lottery tonight even though I have a ticket!

Then instead of buying the ticket you should have donated your money to the Town...

[lovely stuff]

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andyetfc said:
We had a c..p pitch for two seasons before Roy got to work on it.

We very rarely lost a home game until Roy got his hands on it.

Roy has produced a miracle in getting the pitch to the standard it is with very limited resources.

We have lost some home games this year - let's blame the pitch! Next, people will want to get rid of Roy and want the sand back - remember the Carshalton game!

Sorry,Andy.But your talking rubbish.

Our home record has always been a lot poorer than our away record.Remember the poor home form on 'the dustbowl' a few years back.Yes, Roy has worked miracles on the pitch,but we still have no watering system and still rely totally on the weather.

I'm sure Jim Cunneen could come up with stats that show how many points per game we get in the middle half of the season.Compared to how many points we average in the first and last quater of the season.

[Arkwright]

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andyetfc said:
We had a c..p pitch for two seasons before Roy got to work on it.

We very rarely lost a home game until Roy got his hands on it.

Roy has produced a miracle in getting the pitch to the standard it is with very limited resources.

We have lost some home games this year - let's blame the pitch! Next, people will want to get rid of Roy and want the sand back - remember the Carshalton game!

Sorry,Andy.But your talking rubbish.

Our home record has always been a lot poorer than our away record.Remember the poor home form on 'the dustbowl' a few years back.Yes, Roy has worked miracles on the pitch,but we still have no watering system and still rely totally on the weather.

I'm sure Jim Cunneen could come up with stats that show how many points per game we get in the middle half of the season.Compared to how many points we average in the first and last quater of the season.

What do you put that down to, why are the respective records so different?.

[lovely stuff]

Simple.Pitches are harder and more dumpy at the start and end of the season.

 

Regarding our home record.Its partly down to the pitch and partly down to away teams defending deeper.

[Son of Sam]

I have to hand it to you stuffy ,you do come out with some good'uns. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />

[lovely stuff]

So you accept that Tennis players can prefure some types of playing surface to others,and perform better on some than others.

 

I presume you also accept that some races horses perform better on hard ground,whilst others perform better when the going is soft.

 

So why do you find it so hard to believe that a football teams style of play is better suited to one type of surface over another?

[Son of Sam]

Both sides have to play on the SAME SURFACE same as all horses in a race and tennis opponents swap round , I dont go in for all this blaming the pitch/surface old cobblers , Its who does the biz and who doesn't on the day.

[OldTowner]

There is no point in coming on here with crap excuses and blaming everything on Gods earth including Roy and "his" pitch.

Christ that man has given everything to ETFC.

 

How about Jim and HIS Team getting their bloody act together and the Town TEAM working their butts for a common goal, which it looks more and more likely, will be two play-off wins from two home games.

If we can't do that we don't deserve anything.

 

Yes it is dissapointing after such a good season, but THE PLAYERS blew it over the last few games - so now lets live with it.

How many other teams would swop with TOWN ?

 

Now is the time for positive thinking. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/boxing.gif" alt="" />

 

ps. Corby have lost at home twice so far.

Pots Bar 1 - 3 and Arlesey 1 - 2.

Yes Corby are favorites, but it is a funny old game and Waltham Forest also HAVE to win if they want to get in the Play-offs.

[andyetfc]

Son of Sam - Well said!

 

I put our current home record down to the fact that other teams have scored more goals than we have when we have lost!

[Duke of York]

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Our great runs always happens in the middle half of the campaign,when the pitches are at their softest and most compliant.

Do you mean like Potters Bar Town away?! We only won one game during January when the pitchwes were, as you put it 'softest and most compliant!'

[Arkwright]

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lovely stuff said:
Simple.Pitches are harder and more dumpy at the start and end of the season.

Regarding our home record.Its partly down to the pitch and partly down to away teams defending deeper.

I see.
So last season when we only lost one league game on a pitch that was not as good as now was presumabably a blip?.

[lovely stuff]

Check out the overall stats.I stand by them.I stand by the fact that we play less well, and are more easily nullified on bumpy hard pitches.

 

I'm sure the Town players and those of us that have played at a decent level,will acknowlege that some styles of play are more suited to particular conditions over others.

 

Son Of Sam.I'm making excuses and we are 29 points above you.Whats you excuse for that???

[lovely stuff]

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Arkwright said:

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lovely stuff said:
Simple.Pitches are harder and more dumpy at the start and end of the season.

Regarding our home record.Its partly down to the pitch and partly down to away teams defending deeper.

I see.
So last season when we only lost one league game on a pitch that was not as good as now was presumabably a blip?.

When did we lose that one game,and when did we lose the one away game in the same season. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

[discodan]

corby have lost 2 home games to two very poor sides which makes me think that we play when the pressure is on like we did against you stamford and boreham wood. this really is a pressure game and i think the lads will be up for it unlike the 2 defeats

[lovely stuff]

Simple scientific facts.If a surface is hard,a ball will bounce higher on it, and thus spend more time in the air.All our 5 foot 5" players should be as good in the air and as strong headers of the ball ,as they are with the ball at their feet? but life ain't perfect.

 

To suggest that conditions do not affect performance and are equally benificial for both sides,is plainly wrong.

 

Example: When i used to play Sunday league,we too had a small skillful team.We regulary used to play this pub team from Cuffley.They were animals,most were over six foot and about 16 stone.We used to beat them regularly every season.The only two games we ever lost to them were on bone hard pitches in windy conditions.Those conditions suited their players and their playing style to a tee.Soft flat sufarces suited out style to a tee.So yes, conditions are always equal for both teams.That doesn't mean that conditions are equally suited and benificial for both teams.

 

Rather than argue about it, we should be discussing why we cannot adjust our style to these sorts of pitches ,or have players in the squad that would better suit a more arial/physical game when conditions called for that sort of approach.

 

PS..Old Towner.No one has criticised Roy at all in this or any other thread.He does a remarkable job.It is not his fault that the pitch is not regualry watered.That is entirely down to piping and equipement limitations.

[Jim Cunneen]

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lovely stuff said:
Simple.Pitches are harder and more dumpy at the start and end of the season.

Regarding our home record.Its partly down to the pitch and partly down to away teams defending deeper.

I see.
So last season when we only lost one league game on a pitch that was not as good as now was presumabably a blip?.

When did we lose that one game,and when did we lose the one away game in the same season. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Actually we lost to Abbey away in the middle of December and the conditions had bugger all to do with it and the other game was Concorde at home in May and was the last game of the season with everything done and dusted.

Overall stats are not available for when or why we lose games. All the info is available on my stats sheets tho if someone wants to spend the summer working it out. The match reports will also mention the prevailing weather at the time as well.It might say whether the referree had a good game or, heaven forbid, that the opposition played better than us on the day.

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[Robson]

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andyetfc said:
I put our current home record down to the fact that other teams have scored more goals than we have when we have lost!

ALSO...

Take into account that a lot of the teams that have visited us since our formation are not used to 300+ crowds - and that DOES give you a boost knowing you're playing in front of a lot of spectators. Someone said from the ESL a while back, playing Enfield Town is like a cup final, because the chances are they will never play in front of a crowd like that again.

But as we progress through the leagues, we'll be playing against teams who'll have better attendances than us, and perhaps it'll work the other way round in our favour?

My two penneths worth.

[andyetfc]

Good players like myself can play on any surface!

 

Before anyone starts, I didn't say at what sport!

[Son of Sam]

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Son Of Sam.I'm making excuses and we are 29 points above you.Whats you excuse for that???

Having several players who couldn't care less about results and whose sole interest was to get what they could out of the board,Also Losing 4/5 players to Ryman /southern prem clubs very early on didn't help much ,But of course its not the playing surface's fault. We've had our problems with certain players but thats life. We got over it and now have K L in charge who is well connected and has got some good young lads in who want to play and do well. Oh and did you notice whose in the champions league final and who Isn't , And that was down to luck and top class defending and nothing to do with the pitch.

[Robson]

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Son of Sam said:

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Son Of Sam.I'm making excuses and we are 29 points above you.Whats you excuse for that???

Oh and did you notice whose in the champions league final and who Isn't , And that was down to luck and top class defending and nothing to do with the pitch.

Not to mention a bloody good goalkeeper <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />