Daish has got to go!

[FleetFanatic]

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Slartibartfast said:
Just as a matter of interest, and there is no reason why you shouldn't be the same people, but are any of the people calling for Daish to go now the same ones who wanted Andy Ford out last season?
Oh and who would you replace him with?

Get well soon C.G. hospital food sucks.

Now who were the candidates to replace Andy Ford?

Ignoring the laughable ones such as Neil Ruddock.....

[Harry J Allstars]

Its not the phone I hate Gary, yesterday it was the way you used it.

[kmj]

I also hope that you get well soon. If Liam wants to use the "I have an inexperienced team" line, then he cannot complain if when results fail to improve he perhaps finds his own contract not being renewed. As you rightly point out he has experienced players who are fit but for reasons that aren't clear ( we can asume it is an ego thing) he won't play or even select. He is just making a rod for his own back. I had also hoped to speak to him yesterday ( to put across an average supporter's view about our respect for our remaining part-timers ), but 50 minutes after the game had ended he had not appeared which is when I left. And I might add as part of the sponsors itinery we were supposed to meet the manager too!

[Ian_D]

Exactly what I was thinking after their second.

 

When Daish first came in I gave all my support to him, I dont agree with those that didnt give him a chance. But how long does that chance last for?

 

My mate suggested during the match the verdict should be made towards the end of next season but for me, and I would guess for many of you, thats far too long. The honeymoon perod finished months ago. I am now agreeing and find myself nodding with all the Daish Out comments. Until Daish prooves himself I am in the the crew. I just thought I would announce this for the world to know.

 

However, I will keep on supporting the Fleet, as I am sure I will for years, but I agree with Riverview Suppor that maybe we should go back down to part time, and of course get a new manager in. Get the new stadium built, and as mentioned get ourselves in the right position to take the step up and progress properly.

 

For the short term Passion and a new manager is what I think we need.

 

Please, Brian. Lets get Daish out.

[pehams]

I have read all the many postings and would like to make 1 simple comment: GNFC were without Charlie, Jukebox, Jacko and McCarthy from the start and then lost Rawle and Saunders. This would be a serious loss to any side.

[John Pearce]

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Harry J Allstars said:
As for you WVN I also don't doubt your loyalty to the club, there is no doubt that you passionately care about how this club which you don't need me to confirm for you. However you too are seen as a minion of the anti-Fleet. As you have said you have not until you started this thread called for the head of the manager of this club. This makes it even more suspicious as you clearly haven't liked Daish from the beginning yet why leave it this long to ask him to leave. "Daish" and "Out" are two words that now are as common as "Bread" and "Butter" so why you have waited this long is beyond me.

I thought I had made my position very clear on Daish in the past. But just for you Harry, I will re-state it one last time.....

(i) I was sad to see Andy Ford go, particularly in the circumstances over which he resigned, but like many I thought he had done all that he could and it was time to move-on. Particularly as the board were making noises about going full-time and I thought that they would bring in a replacement for Andy with full-time and Conference experience.

(ii)I was surprised that the board appointed Liam Daish, yes he had experience at the top level as a player, but had virtually no experience as a manager. Remember he had been sacked by Havant & Waterlooville and rejected by Welling United. What I thought was amazing, and still do for that matter, is that the club gave probably the highest player budget in its history to a manager with little or no management experience. (The question must be asked what Andy Ford would have achieved if he had been given the same level of budget when the club were part-time?). One of the key reasons why Daish was appointed, certainly if you believe the local press, was that with his connections and contacts in the professional game he would be able to bring in players with the necessary experience to take the club forward. Quite clearly that has not been the case!

(iii) After his early honeymoon period, results had not improved and culminating with the debacle against Bishops Stortford, I continued to express my views and tried to start the debate on this forum as to whether Daish was the right man for the job. Whatever happens, my view was, is and will probably remain that he was the wrong man for the job at the outset.

(iv) All of that said, I have supported the 'Fleet since the FA Cup run in 1962-63 and have seen good managers and bad managers come and go. Whilst I continued to feel that Daish was the wrong man for the job, I had decided to give him the benefit of the doubt. After all I do not pretend to be any form of expert, he may have been able to bring something to the club that I had not seen. Hence the reason for moaning about many of the things that he has done at the club, but not calling for 'his head'.

(v) One year down the line, and as a result of recent poor performances, culminating in Saturday, I feel that enough is enough. My and many others worst fears appear to becoming reality. The club would appear to be sliding towards an abyss. Higher costs in all directions, the cost of maintaining the Fleet Club and training facility at Nelson Road, higher player budget spent primarily on full time wages to players that are either loanees or have very little experience of Conference football, results gradually getting worse, and dwindling crowds. All at a time when it is essential that the club shows its potential to the people of Gravesham and indeed the rest of Kent, firstly to secure the agreement to support a new stadium and secondly to ward-off the risk of Gillingham Football Club coming to the town.

Not all of this can be laid at Daish's door, I accept that. But this season (and probably next) sees the 'Fleet with some of the greatest opportunities in the club's history. Stonebridge Road has very little going for it at the moment, it is falling down in places and expensive to get into, it is essential therefore that the team perform on the pitch and that responsibility lies primarily with the manager and his management team, as well as the players. So far with Daish in control the club have not achieved. That is why I have posted my view that now is the time for Liam Daish to stand down.

You are right Harry, I do care passionately about what happens at Stonebridge Road. I have no hidden agenda as you appear to be suggesting. The bottom line is that I want the 'Fleet to do well. I have seen enough years when the club have struggled both financially and on the field, too many years when they have had to live in the shadows of the likes of Maidstone United, Dartford, Gillingham and Charlton Athletic. The club now has an opportunity to surpass all that has gone before, I do not want to see that opportunity wasted.

John Pearce.

[Ian_D]

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pehams said:
I have read all the many postings and would like to make 1 simple comment: GNFC were without Charlie, Jukebox, Jacko and McCarthy from the start and then lost Rawle and Saunders. This would be a serious loss to any side.

True, but Daish is without doubt eliminating the part-timers from the squad (basically AFs squad): 3 of them are old boys; Rawle probably hasnt shown his potential/is not on form so isnt a great loss; and we really should be able to cope with Charlie Macs injury, and have got lots of cover at the back - Both Watkins and Hawkins can play center half I think, so at the end of the day its not really an excuse, in my mind anyway.

[Hempstead Gaz]

Very good posting WVN. I pretty much echo all of that except at the time of his appointment, I was neither for against Liam, but I trusted the Board's choice.

As I am stuck in hospital with a poisoned arm and septecemia, with an operation tommorrow to clean up my elbow, I'll have to pass on the Grays game, but I hope Liam and the team make us all eat our words.

[Hempstead Gaz]

Oh, and Harry, I promise not to make any half time postings on the batphone - I'll be using it for the BBC live text commentary.

[Matt (GNFC)]

A very intelligent posting WVN, agree with all you write.

[John Pearce]

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Chatham Gary said:
As I am stuck in hospital with a poisoned arm and septecemia, with an operation tommorrow to clean up my elbow, I'll have to pass on the Grays game, but I hope Liam and the team make us all eat our words.

Get well soon CG.

I know what its like, having spent 5 days in Darent Valley just a week or so ago.

Terrible food, expensive telephone calls and TV etc using Patientline.

[Hempstead Gaz]

At least the matron (who is straight of a Carry on film) hasn't sussed my mda is phone. whrn is nearby i turn on my chess game!!

[jc]

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ian@thefleet said: Rawle probably hasnt shown his potential/is not on form so isnt a great loss

An outstanding striker or not, surely Rawle, on the contrary, must be considered 'a great loss', given how short we are of forwards at the moment.

The post about injuries is valid, and was/is clearly a factor in recent poor displays. It's more Liam's comments about 'inexperience', when he has McKimm as an unused substitute and Skins not even managing that, that baffle people.

[Slartibartfast]

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Chatham Gary said:
At least the matron (who is straight of a Carry on film) hasn't sussed my mda is phone. whrn is nearby i turn on my chess game!!

Doesn't she think its funny that you talk to your chess game and hasn't she noticed that everytime you play chess all the pacemaker boys in the cardiac ward start doing formation somersaults. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/roflmao.gif" alt="" />

[Harry J Allstars]

Thank you for replying John and for giving us such an insight to what your thinking.

 

Upon reflection going full time so soon after Daish had come on board and giving him our biggest transfer budget seems a little foolish, this is not just in light of how things have turned out but we should have had a season to see what Daish is like as a manager before giving such a budget.

 

We all want whats best for GNFC. After the Grays game we had a lot of people come on here asking for Daish to leave, they're were new people that had only registered that day. Where are they now? You however have remained sometimes alone. While I don't always agree with what you say or how you put your argument across you do appear to have been right, when I was wrong, about a great number of things.

[Wobbly Wayne rides again]

Good post WVN.

 

I agree with most, but disagree that Fordy had run his course.

 

What he needed was a number 2 to replace Ade. Someone in the Ade mould. ie a not long retired league player wanting to take the first steps in management, and decent contacts in the proffessional game.

 

But he was left to go alone too long and very poorly treated.

 

For years he struggled to become full time , and as soon as he leaves the Board not only appoints another full time manager but also a full time no. 2

 

 

I know its in the past but it still leaves a sour taste in my mouth, and the board are now reaping what they have sown in this regard.

[Gordon T]

WVN, disagree with you on Bishop Stortford. The players threw away a goal lead in the last minute at their place, before doing exactly the same again. I hardly see how them letting in that equaliser at our place can be blamed on daish..

 

But thats in the past, I don't feel qualified enough for a say due to the amount of gamess I have seen, especially this calendar year (b4 this it was borehamwood), but i just wanted to point that out...

[Slartibartfast]

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Harry J Allstars said:
Upon reflection going full time so soon after Daish had come on board and giving him our biggest transfer budget seems a little foolish, this is not just in light of how things have turned out but we should have had a season to see what Daish is like as a manager before giving such a budget.

Where do you get the 'biggest transfer budget' bit from?

[Hirsty]

Mourinho (?) might be available next season if he f*cks up the league & FA Cup. It will please Harry I suppose, but the moaning posse will not doubt say that there would be too many foreigners playing, the place smells of garlic, ooh and they don't make the tea properly do they ?

 

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[Hempstead Gaz]

Have you tried the tea from the caravans,Hirsty? Almost as bad as hospital tea - truly aweful!