Another Possible Major Blow - Havant v Weymouth

[EFM The Firm, The Voice]

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The Football Conference this afternoon heard Weymouth’s complaint levelled at the Hawks in the wake of their 2-1 victory against the Terras earlier this month. The Hawks have been found guilty of unsportsmanlike behaviour by the Conference in playing ex-Weymouth midfielder Tony Taggart, but in an unexpected move the Hawks will not be docked three points.

 

Instead, subject to appeal, the record for the game will be expunged and the match replayed, at Westleigh Park, on a date to be decided by the Conference, without Tony Taggart’s participation. Should the game go ahead it would be played under cup-tie conditions, meaning money generated from the match would be divided between the sides.

 

Hawks officials present at the hearing have declared the decision “perverse”, and the club is understood to be strongly considering an appeal to the FA. Should this be the case no final decision about the situation will be made until after the 14 day appeal period.

 

This is a joke, Havant should be docked 3 points as what normally happened when illegiable players are played (and there is no guarentee he was as nobody seems to know if this was written in a contract or was a verbal aggreement), so if Weymouth win the replayed game they move further away from us.

What about the other 10 players that contrubuted to that game!

 

And both teams get their coffers filled by the game being replayed, the gate money should be split between the 22 member clubs or go to the league!

 

I hope our club are going to voice their disapproval as well <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" />

[Electric ~soul~]

It says nothing there about him being ineligible, though.

 

"Unsportsmanlike behaviour"? This is a new one on me.

 

Can someone else clarify, please?

[AFF]

Reading between the lines of an apparently carefully worded message on another board, it was suggested that there was no written agreement between 'Ayes and the Muff that the player in question was not to play in this fixture. Rather the matter was the subject of a [don't laugh] 'Gentleman's Agreement', individuals at the two clubs having agreed the issue verbally.

 

If that is the essence of Weymouth's case, I assume that 'Ayes said, either 'Oh no we didn't', or "That form of agreement has no basis in law, m'lud".

 

In any event, The F.A. have found Hayes guilty of unsportsmanlike behaviour etc. and the rest you know.

 

Incidentally, I agree with your point on another thread, Zealster. While I wouldn't concede for a moment that the race for the title and automatic promotion is over, Weymouth would be my overwhelming favourites for the title and any loss of points on the part of the others chasing a play-off spot should be welcomed.

 

Over-riding all that of course is my upholding of the spirit of fair play, justice etc. etc.

[Webbo MFI]

what have Hayes got to do with all this?

[Electric ~soul~]

Just to clarify, were Hayes, as you've stated, the other team in question, or was it Havant & Waterlooville?

 

If this was a 'gentlemen's agreement', then there's no way the FA should be getting involved. So Hayes/Havant broke the agreement? So what.

 

I mean, I don't give a toss about what this three-point deduction means in relation to us, I just think you can't start re-playing games because of bad sportsmanship.

 

Wenger started it with that Sheffield United replay a few years back, and got applauded.

 

People forget that if Kanu (?) hadn't scored that goal, the match would have been heading up to Bramall Lane. Instead, not only does Wenger get to be the 'good guy', he also gets the 'replay' at home.

 

But that's a different issue.

[AFF]

Doh!

 

When I say 'Hayes' today, I mean 'Havant & Waterlooville'. Apologies.

 

A legally binding contract doesn't have to be written, Zealster. It's a lot handier if it is in writing, however, as the opportunity for dispute is much more limited.

 

Anyway, CZ. Don't be so cavalier with the spirit of fair play and justice. What have Arsenal got ot do with anything anyway?

[Electric ~soul~]

Nothing. I just got way-laid by my hatred of them.

 

But anyway.

 

I hate all this fair-play stuff. These 'sportsmanlike' throw-ins and drop-balls that get punted back to the opposition goalkeeper. And then that cringe-making applause by fans of both sides that accompany it.

 

Bloody hell, the whole idea of sport, by its very definition, is to win at all costs.

 

Havant won. They did the dirty. There was no contract. Fair play to them.

 

The FA should keep their nose out.

[AFF]

Aha, CZ. You said "There was no contract."

 

I'm not taking sides here, but you have overlooked my point, which is a matter of fact, by the way, that a legally binding contract does not have to be in writing. There are circumstances in which a verbal agreement can be entirely legally binding on the parties.

 

Talking of the F.A., by the way, someone said yesterday "who on earth would the F.A. get to manage England at such short notice [if they had sacked the Swede on the spot]". I responded "At half Sven's salary, I could start tomorrow."

 

I don't know anything about football, but that doesn't appear to be a pre-requisite of the role. He doesn't do any coaching, neither does has assistant, Tord Grip [anag?]. He has people to do that.

 

I reckon that I could get t'lads through the group stages, anyway.

 

I'm waiting for the Chelsea job to come up actually. With the quality in that squad, I would guarantee a top 3 finish if I was manager.

[Electric ~soul~]

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I'm not taking sides here, but you have overlooked my point, which is a matter of fact, by the way, that a legally binding contract does not have to be in writing. There are circumastnces in which a verbal agreement can be entirely legally binding on the parties.

Apparently, if I owed you money AFF, I could write out a 'cheque' on a scrap of paper, or even on a piece of toilet roll, and it is a legal cheque.

I learnt that on my bookkeeping course.

Bookkeeping. The only word in the English language with three double letters side-by-side.

Good luck with the Chelsea job.

[JKiF]

the FA remind me of Ian Brown yet again

 

"amateurs , amateurs...."

[Electric ~soul~]

"You're wasting our f'kin time, la's"

 

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