please go

[Martin]

No we have not. Last season was our first in the Ryman Premier after "promotion." If this were a Championship club going into the Premier League the pundits would be saying that they need to consolidate their position in the division before building and pushing on. Our main aim should be survival. We have nothing to build on until we sort out the off the field problems.

[Barry Scott]

Well we have been stable. The conference south is technically the old Ryman Premier now so we're still at exactly the same level we were when we were promoted. You said it yourself in fact.

[Staines-upon-Thames Rebel]

We are in a worse position as we now have a weaker "squad" and less income.

 

I dont belive Eddie has the balls to get rid of the weak players and we will continue to see those players he "likes" and gets on with out there as the relegation battle continues

[Ian]

There's only a point in getting rid of "weak players" if we have the ability to bring in others to replace them. Just getting rid of players without bringing any in (decent or otherwise) would just accentuate last night's problem of having nobody fit to sit on the bench.

 

We know Eddie can make tough decisions......remember dropping Jake Whincup two days before the Walsall game and bringing in Shaun Allaway? What's that if not a brave decision? He also then dropped Allaway and played a 17 year old keeper in the Bryco Cup Final, again a decision it was probably easier to make the other way.

 

At the moment though he's totally restricted by the lack of funds to do anything. If he has no money to work with and cannot increase the quality or quantity of the squad, what do you propose he does? Yes, he's made some decisions regarding players and subs that we don't agree with but that will happen with any manager.

 

What would you do, Staines? You have the squad that Eddie has got and cannot increase it in numbers, and you cannot have any funds to increase it in quality. Tell me what you would do. Sack the manager and appoint another with the same restrictions? Would that really help?

[Guest]

everyone keeps on about low budget if he is a good as people make out he should be able to work with the resources provided and at the moment don't think he is up to it

[Staines-upon-Thames Rebel]

I would have put Parkin on as an out field player last night to show that although options are limited, a fit player is better than a knackered out 39 year old who has run out of puff after 70 mins. Parkin is a commited player who has shown he wants to play and I belive his warming up was to show Eddie that he wanted to get on the pitch even if it was not in goal!

 

It may not have worked but 3 - 0 down he had nothing to lose and it would have shown that he was trying to change the game!

 

There are some in the ressies who should be give a chance as the current formular is not working - otherwise why have a reserve team?

[Ian]

Agree with your comments about the capital league players, SR1. Surely a fit reserve player is better on the bench than naming subs who aren't even present at the game?

[Martin]

Just on the reserves issue - it may be a case of dual registration. They are registered to play for us in the Capital League but are on Ryman Forms with someone else.

[Guest]

reserves players must be signed on ryman forms if not we should get players to sign but can't see that changing much

[GarySTFC]

why? Sometimes it's a case of getting players in to have a look at them from other local clubs - as happened with the Masons and some others. Those 'worthy' of being signed on, will be.

 

From what I gather though, from the main reserves, Parkin was on the bench, Jonny Mason is out on loan, Lovegrove was on the bench, Shepherd is out on loan, Paget is out on loan, Braith is still suspended (I think) and I can only presume the others aren't signed on, or aren't available.

[Staines-upon-Thames Rebel]

Why are players out on loan when our bench is empty?!?!

 

This proves that Eddie has not got a grip on the management side - and before anyone says they are out because of lack of money - well the club will get even lower gates and income if they go down a level!

[Rebel Kay]

Given our current injury crisis any players on loan should be recalled as I understand was mousiniho yesterday.

Whilst I always try to refrain from open critisism of the players during the game, believing our support to be more productive I totally agree that last night was dire and something has got to give and pretty bloody soon.

[Staines-upon-Thames Rebel]

I belive the players are trying their best under the circumstances, however how motivated would you be to play 100% if your team was in the bottom quarter of the league?

 

This is where strong management comes in and lifts the team.

 

The problem is that I have seen no sign of this during the game as Eddie adopts the "Steve Browne" crossed arm pose and players have to come across to him for instructions.

 

The likes of Borg and Devonshire are much more vocal than Denton and lift their teams as has been proved with the steady rise of H&R and Braintree - when was the last time the oposition supporters told Eddie to "sit down, shut up"?

[GarySTFC]

There's some reasoning about not being able to recall players on loan within a certain period, but non-contract players are usually sent out on loan on a 'gentlemans agreement' between the clubs. Not sure how that affects calling players back.

[Barry Scott]

[Roger Rebel]

Do you think this was an Eddie idea Ian?

[Ian]

Which, Roger?

[Matt]

Quote:

Gary-STFC said:
why? Sometimes it's a case of getting players in to have a look at them from other local clubs - as happened with the Masons and some others. Those 'worthy' of being signed on, will be.

From what I gather though, from the main reserves, Parkin was on the bench, Jonny Mason is out on loan, Lovegrove was on the bench, Shepherd is out on loan, Paget is out on loan, Braith is still suspended (I think) and I can only presume the others aren't signed on, or aren't available.

I was under the impression that

a) Jonny Mason has left permanently for Flackwell as he wants first-team football;

Adam Paget has gone the same way, for the same reason, for the remainder of the season, to get match experience;

c) Sam Shepherd left permanently a couple of months ago.

In the case of the first two, I would imagine they were on expenses only and can only assume the management team are looking at bringing in more players for the same kind of money. Mason and Paget were becoming understandably frustrated at their lack of first-team action, and have agreed to join Flackwell. As in the past, I would assume there is some agreement to bring them back if need be - but if non-contract players want to leave, there's not an awful lot stopping them...

[Radders]

Having spoken to Adam (Paget) last week, he was going to leave for good but Eddie persuaded him just to go on loan to Flackwell as he was still in the managers plans. I was also led to believe Jonny Mason has left for good, but that Shepherd is on loan.

[Roger Rebel]

Subs that were not there.