Bloody Disgraceful Supporter

[Phil Old Boy]

Couldn’t believe it today. Not only were we appalling in the first half but one of our so called supporters decides to have a slanging match with Danny while the games’ going on!

 

Yes, Danny should of ignored this character but you can only take so much s**t.

 

Danny was sticking up for Cheners whose distribution wasn’t great, but whose was in that half.

 

Danny shouts out asking for this character to show himself properly and this guy shouts out I can have a go, I pay your wages.

Well this is total crap as we know who pays the players wages as there isn’t enough money coming through the gate.

 

Danny shouted you are supposed to be a supporter. Yes, we were awful in defence in the first half but when you are not playing well, you do need support and not some MUPPET having a go, bringing your confidence levels lower.

 

What does the word support mean? Someone to turn up and have a go at a chosen few on your side. Yes, I think most of us have a private moan, but to do it out there, in that fashion was totally unacceptable

 

Sorry, while the yellow army is getting things going now and is worth a goal, you have characters like this taking away a goal and all of this good work.

 

I say people like this should be ejected. There is no place for them and the f****** w***** shouts also should not be tolerated.

 

I just could not believe this character. He wasn’t the youngest of “supporters” either and was standing alongside half a dozen more senior people. He should know better.

 

Shame on you whoever you are. The club doesn’t need you and I’m sure your kind of foul mouth behaviour will deter people from the club in future. Stay at home.

 

Rant Over!

[Guest]

next time call a steward and kick the [****!!****] out.

[Merv]

Well said Phil Old Boy. There is room for constructive criticism between friends on the terrace, in the bar or on the discussion board, but not shouted from the terraces.

 

I thought Danny was wrong to rise to the bait, but the so called 'fan' was totally wrong to bollock Chenners during the game. Instead let him come onto this board and give a reasoned argument for his point of view.

 

And you're quite right, 648 fans at eleven and half quid each doesn't even pay the running costs, let alone the players wages.

[A Non E Mouse]

That was one hell of a weird incident!

 

We were extremely poor defensively in the first half and it wasn't an isloated fan who was having a "shout". There were a number of people I heard shouting comments in that first 20 odd minutes.

 

I think it may have been all these put together that made Danny react. To be honest I cannot understand why Danny snapped. Chenners distributed the ball to the wing which was a tad overhit - the guy just shouted "nice one Chenners" but didn't swear or use any form of bad language. Danny reacted and there were comments about wages and calling the fan an "inbred". I'm not excusing the actions of the fan nor Danny - but Danny did look back over and fuelled the argument again by asking the fan to "show himself" - it should have just been left or reported.

 

A steward did walk past about 5 minutes later and I did see the steward talk to Danny on the break of half time. I don't know if the steward found out or had a word with the "fan".

 

There is a lot of positive support and appreciation on this forum but on the terraces the reactions are a little more mixed and I have heard far worse comments aimed at some of our players, including Chenners, at the lane. I agree Merv it's not constructive but I'm not expecting you to get your "reasoned arguement" from this fan. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

[yellow angel]

agree with everything that has been said.of course we all have a moan with our mates on the terrace,but it doesnt do any good getting on a players back during the game.

must say though, at the moment it seems to be open season on chennery from a small number of "fans".

i have my own opinion of him as a player,but i will say i think the bloke always tries his best.

[Yellow Bungle]

Didn't see the incident but the defence did need a rollicking.

 

I bet what the supporter said was nothing compared to Kingy said at half-time. Players shout at each other, why can't fans voice their frustration? It's a man's game after all, we can't burst into tears every time someone points out the truth and to be honest I've heard a lot of people slagging off our more senior players such as Chenners and Gregory over the past season and a half, often unfairly, so he who is without sin etc.

[richard sparkes]

i never saw or heard the suppossed fan but for me chenners along with dom has been our best defender

[Yellow Bungle]

Personally, I'd go with Dom and Wardy as my first choice in the middle at the back. Quite happy when Chenners plays there although not sure he has pace for right back.

 

Was it Chenners who made the clearance of the line in the 2nd half?

[Phil Old Boy]

To be honest, this so called supporter was critisicing everything that did not come off.

 

I'm sure if players are having a mare and doing things wrong, they know that. It doesn't need some twat to point out the fact.

 

What they do need is helping out and with people sticking together and not to think that the world is against them as well!

[EFM The Firm, The Voice]

Lucky the player didn't beat you up the City way!

[YELLOW]

I remember the Telford Trophy semi final. Some of the stick Chenners and Junior got that day was little short of disgraceful.

[EFM The Firm, The Voice]

Did the fellow look a bit odd <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> was lsitening to a sony walkman and last seem walking towards the PA booth clutching a pile of Oasis CD?

 

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I'VE FOUNDH HIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Please approach with caution

[YELLOW]

One joke wonder, Thornsy.

[The Great Eckscape]

He He He!!!

 

Unfortunately, after speaking afterwards in the bar it seemed that people around the incident weren't too helpful in pointing out the guilty party to the stewards. Nobody wants people at the game that just slag off the players.

[LEWIS JAMES HARKER]

he was wearing black and red cap he was old 50+. but after danny spoke to him, he seemed to have disappeared.

[Shoulders]

I thought Chenners was doing the job of two people in the first half. Mr Bunce wasn't too mobile and Chenners was constantly covering from right back.

 

The defence as a whole was a bit ropey on Saturday but Chenners was one of the busiest people out there and definately did not deserve any abuse.

[A Non E Mouse]

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Shoulders said:
I thought Chenners was doing the job of two people in the first half. Mr Bunce wasn't too mobile and Chenners was constantly covering from right back.

The defence as a whole was a bit ropey on Saturday but Chenners was one of the busiest people out there and definately did not deserve any abuse.

Agree - we really missed Sterling and Bimson on the left. If either of them had been fit then Chenners wouldn't have been so busy or even noticable. In fact I don't think we would be having this conversation. Not every goal we have conceeded last year, or this, is down to Chenners and you have to look at the performance of all the players in the first half.

[Leo]

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Phil Old Boy said:
Couldn’t believe it today. Not only were we appalling in the first half but one of our so called supporters decides to have a slanging match with Danny while the games’ going on!

Yes, Danny should of ignored this character but you can only take so much s**t.

Danny was sticking up for Cheners whose distribution wasn’t great, but whose was in that half.

Danny shouts out asking for this character to show himself properly and this guy shouts out I can have a go, I pay your wages.
Well this is total crap as we know who pays the players wages as there isn’t enough money coming through the gate.

Danny shouted you are supposed to be a supporter. Yes, we were awful in defence in the first half but when you are not playing well, you do need support and not some MUPPET having a go, bringing your confidence levels lower.

What does the word support mean? Someone to turn up and have a go at a chosen few on your side. Yes, I think most of us have a private moan, but to do it out there, in that fashion was totally unacceptable

Sorry, while the yellow army is getting things going now and is worth a goal, you have characters like this taking away a goal and all of this good work.

I say people like this should be ejected. There is no place for them and the f****** w***** shouts also should not be tolerated.

I just could not believe this character. He wasn’t the youngest of “supporters” either and was standing alongside half a dozen more senior people. He should know better.

Shame on you whoever you are. The club doesn’t need you and I’m sure your kind of foul mouth behaviour will deter people from the club in future. Stay at home.

Rant Over!

I was standing almost directly in front of the supporter whose comment offended Danny so intensely on Saturday and whilst not defending what was said, I have to say right now that at no time did I hear him swear. What he actually shouted was "That's rubbish Chenery!!" - certainly he did not use the phrase "f-----g w----r" at any time at all, even when Danny carried it on and referred to him as a p---k and an "inbred".

The exchange as I heard it went as so -

Bloke on Terrace - "That's rubbish Chenery"
DP - "Shut up"
Bloke on Terrace - "You shut up Potter, we pay your wages"
DP - "Well you're not paying much then are you"
DP - "You a Canvey fan are you? (making a sign with his hands as in "inverted commas")
Bloke on Terrace - "Yes I am"
DP - "Why don't you go and start watching Concorde - p---k"
Bloke on Terrace (joined by a couple of his mates now) "You're rubbish Potter, shut up"

Play went on and when it stopped Danny turned to the section of the terrace where the shouting had come from and carried it on -

DP - "So which one of you was it who was shouting out? Stick your hand up..."
Bloke on Terrace (Older bloke in late 50's/early 60's) sticks hand up - "It was me"
DP - "Idiot, f-----g inbred"

That was it as I remember it almost word for word. As I say, at no time did I hear the old bloke swear at Danny who certainly swore at him. Why he became so angry with this guy when obviously it could have seriously broken his concentration during the game, just for shouting out "Rubbish Chenery" for Ben's misdirected pass, I do not know.

To suggest that the old bloke be ejected quite frankly when he did not swear is to my way of thinking not right at all. He had paid his money to come in and agree with it or not is entitled to shout whatever he wanted providing it is not racist, obscene etc. and "Rubbish Chenery" cannot be classed as offensive in any way.

As has been suggested that the people around this old guy were reluctant to get involved and call a steward, this is far from the case. Why would a steward have to be called to eject the old bloke when all he did was shout out "Rubbish Chenery" after Ben's misplaced pass. It was Danny who swore and insulted this guy, why should the old bloke be chucked out for saying something that anybody who has been watching football for X number of years at whatever ground they go to has undoubtedly done on numerous occasions over seasons past.

Having followed West Ham all my life, I have to say that if fans were to have been ejected from the ground for shouting abuse at Lee Chapman when he played for the Hammers then the ground would without a doubt by half time.

I like Ben Chenery and Danny Potter is one of my favourite all time Canvey players. I hate to see fans abusing their own players as to my mind if any player is wearing a West Ham, Canvey Island or England shirt, he is playing for me and the clubs and country I follow. Booing or abusing players from your own side will do nothing but harm and destroy their confidence.

I have to say that I have been to every Canvey home game this year and I have heard a few comments about Ben but this is not as bad as people are making out I feel. He is a good player who has played a much better standard than non league, always gives 100% in every game he plays for Canvey and will always have a place in the annuls of CIFC history for his goal that won the FA Trophy for the club in 2001. If the people are abusing him from the terraces are reading this, I would ask them why they consider him to be a target for criticism?

All teams need their supporters to get behind them and whilst not be blind to players who do not give their best or who are not committed to the cause, try to inspire and encourage the players who have been selected to represent THEIR club to success and victory.

Booing or abuse will not achieve that and anybody who professes to be a fan of a club should remember that always.

[YELLOW]

If that is true then although I'm not condoning what the supporter said for Danny to call him a f..cking inbred is not on. We're trying to attract families to the club and those sort of comments are unfair.

 

OK the guy should not have slagged Chenners off and I don't blame Danny for reacting but to call someone an inbred is hardly gentlemanly conduct.

 

It hardly puts us in a good light, does it? They've already been comments made on the Billericay forum, we don't want to become a laughing stock.

[Yellow Bungle]

Can we get on with life?