Penalty goal or not?

[Dagger03]

Did Timmy Hambley score from a penalty against Basildon?

 

My own feeling about this is that he scored in open play, as the penalty was saved by the keeper, and he followed up with a diving header.

 

My logic on this is simple - if it had been a penalty shoot out, then it would not have been given as a goal.

 

Does anyone have any thoughts on this?

[maxinio]

Correct Dagsy 100%

And on Soccer AM would not have counted either!

[Bridge]

No question it was scored from open play...

[Eastside Urchin]

open play,the minute the ball is struck,it becomes open play

[Dagger03]

>>open play,the minute the ball is struck,it becomes open play

 

No - because if this were the case, then no goal could ever be classed as a penalty - it is only when the keeper saves, or the kicker scores on misses, that it becomes open play. If the keeper parries the ball, but it still goes into the net, that is still a penalty goal, as opposed to a goal scored in open play.

[Eastside Urchin]

thats what i meant,sorry,the minute it strikes something other than the player taking it

[maxinio]

I realise what your point is now Dagsy,

You mean when does the ball in effect, become dead in a pen shoot out?

Good point mate, I don't know

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[cider]

What if it hits the post and comes out? Is that open play because the same player cannot touch it.

[Eastside Urchin]

still open play,just means taker can't kick it but its open for everyone else

[LeagueSecretary]

If the goal keeper saves it, the penalty taker can have a 2nd chance. If the the ball hits the post, the penalty taker can not touch it again. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/ooo.gif" alt="" />

[Dagger03]

>>>If the goal keeper saves it, the penalty taker can have a 2nd chance. If the the ball hits the post, the penalty taker can not touch it again.

 

 

No.If the keeper moves off his line, or if a defender encroaches into the area prior to the ball being kicked, then if the penalty is missed, it has to be retaken.

 

If the penalty is scored, the goal stands. However, in the example we had last Saturday, if the defending team had commited an offence, the referee would almost certainly have allowed the goal, as he would have played the 'advantage' rule.

 

If a player on the attacking side commits an offence the kick was (last season) only retaken if the goal is scored. If the player misses, then it would not be retaken.

 

Under the new proposals for this season - and I am not one hundred percent sure if these were incorporated - if the attacking team offends, the correct award is now an indirect free kick to the opposition, and not a re-take of the penalty.

[Ian_W]

Dagger - I think the LgeSec meant a second chance as in able to kick the ball and hopefully score.

[Dagger03]

>>I think the LgeSec meant a second chance as in able to kick the ball and hopefully score.

 

Yes, on second reading, I think so as well. I mis-read it first time of asking.

[The Monk]

Who gives a [****!!****]. THe answer to your first question has been answered. It was open play. Dead topic! Over.

[and1inthetree]

morning pm, who shat in your cornflakes this morning then?

[The Monk]

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[Eastside Urchin]

psycho,did you get blown out of a shag by the missus last night mate!!!

[and1inthetree]

yeah, she had a puncture.

[Urchin Boy]

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[CraigDavid]

cheer up mate!!!