Guest Posted September 30, 2002 Share Posted September 30, 2002 I am shocked that no one is kicking up a stink about the move to Basildon, not only is it bad for Billericay it is bad for Basildon. I know the club is going to be in serious trouble when the people of Basildon start protesting and marching etc. There will be delays wich will cause a lot of problems financially and could drag the club down. I am aware of at least two large groups that are raising money to fight in the courts and are busy drumming up support for protests publicity, stunts and that sort of stuff. I have seen the plans and know the people of Basildon willnot have it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan.c Posted September 30, 2002 Share Posted September 30, 2002 And where are they going to march? On the piece of land at Gloucester Park? I wouldn't go on there for all the dog-[****!!****]! Anyway, talking of [censored], I think you're a stirrer of it from a certain little Island down the road! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GazzaBTFC Posted October 1, 2002 Share Posted October 1, 2002 The stink has been kicked, the move discussed, arguements made in all sorts of ways and now we are in the planning stage. Those who dissagree / agree have all had their say. So why the bloody hell are you on this site, trying to start it all up again? If you have nothing constructive to say on the matter (I do believe there isn't a plan for the burger bars yet - important factor of a footie match and I DO WANT A SAY in the location at the new ground!!!), then go away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 1, 2002 Share Posted October 1, 2002 Constructive ? 8,000 capacity with 300 parking spaces, The plan is poor and not wanted locally. Are you aware there are requests for an enquiry into BDC's handling of this matter. There is also plans to go to the D of Environment. The legal fees could bust the club. The local paper has printed letters on this matter for 30 straight days. Do not listen to what is being said by the chair this is a foolish move that will back fire on us the people who cough up their hard earned to watch BTFC. Anywhere else but in a park and it is a good plan, as poorly maintained as Gloucester park is it is still parkland and therefore will attract protest. People in Basildon are furious at the way things have been handled and how their own local club has been treated. There is much more suitable plots of land up for sale not least the Fryerns school site, Hannikens and much more land in the industrial area opposite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon BTFC Posted October 1, 2002 Share Posted October 1, 2002 I don't think there is much of a case to answer for at the DoE to be honest the area of Gloucester park is designated as "sport and leisure use" in the local plan and as such building a football stadium there is entirely apropriate use. 300 parking spaces will be more than adequate for the demands of the sort of sized crowds we would get even if we (1 day <img src="/forums/images/icons/smile.gif" alt="" /> ) make it to the conference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan.c Posted October 1, 2002 Share Posted October 1, 2002 So when the Fryerns School site is sold and earmarked for housing (more open space being eroded) will these people who are campaining about BTFC moving to Gloucester Park be giving the same amount of attention to this as well? I think we know the answer to that question, NIMBY'ism. Are these the same people whose silence was defening when large chunks of Basildons greenland was developed for industrial and housing use? Or was it because it was on the other side of town? As for thier own club, the people of Basildon have ignored this club since the day it was formed, hence it's ramshackle of a ground! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jl Posted October 1, 2002 Share Posted October 1, 2002 i am a bit more sympathetic to mobrien's thinking than most of the other comments. it is clear that there is a good deal of opposition to the move from some basildon residents and i trust that the club have indeed taken into account any possible legal costs or the costs of delays. just to ignore this and hope it goes away would be folly. i do feel that eventually the move will go ahead, and am more than happy just to support the team (which i hope mobrien) does, and let those in the know get on with the ins and outs of the move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 1, 2002 Share Posted October 1, 2002 I have been told the people of Billericay were stuck up snobs who look down their nose at others. I did not think they were so stupid as to be dragged around by the nose like this. You just do not get it do you, again tonights paper more complaints. The plan is to build a hotel and BTFC is the trojan horse. The people of Basildon were mugged time and time again by developers, look at the blight on the opposite corner Barclays never even moved in. That does not mean that this proposal is OK. Basildon United have been treated terribly by English Partnerships and BDC next time it may be the turn of BTFC. I can understand the die hard loyal supporter trying to get the best for their club but this is not it. As for the D of E, I will lay odds they will step in, check out their website and see what I mean. There are far more people against this proposal willing to step up and protest than you realise. Do not get me wrong as far as I am concerned they can bulldoze half of Basildon but not if they are going to destroy BTFC to do it, just because I have not got my head up my a£s@ does not mean I do not support the club and want a good future,just not this future. Some predictions Will not happen without at least 3 year delay. Will cost BTFC thousands in legal fees. 50% of Billericay residents who currently go will stop attending. There will be an inquiry into BDC and their relationship with developers. ANYONE WANNA BET Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 1, 2002 Share Posted October 1, 2002 Oh and by the way I do not want to stand by and let those who are blinkered by £££££ to destroy this club so yeah I will say my bit, who do you intend to support when the club has folded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon BTFC Posted October 1, 2002 Share Posted October 1, 2002 What do you want us to say Mr Obrien that we're all going to go and watch C*nv*y like you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 1, 2002 Share Posted October 1, 2002 A one off, at least it is my local seaside town and not those scum bags southhampton, mind you it will not be long before they are dragged into non league status. Took their eye off the ball while building a stadium they could not afford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon BTFC Posted October 2, 2002 Share Posted October 2, 2002 Your ignorance betrays you once again mr o brien - St. Mary's has more than doubled Sothampton's income. This money, together with the sale of the Dell has seen Southampton move into the black for the first time in ages - hardly an unaffordable stadium. It has also been a major step forwards in attempts to regenerate one of the worst areas of the city. All we have to do now is avoid relegation...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Turner Posted October 2, 2002 Share Posted October 2, 2002 Mobrien, First of all anyone can come on a web forum but how little it is when you have to hide behind a name. This debate started back in May when the original plans to re-develop New Lodge were deemed not viable due to potential issues around access and land. If you ask around the ground no one wants to move away from Billericay as this is our roots. Unfortunately times change and for us to be able to go forward in our goal first of all to play in the Conference and then in the league we need to build a new stadium to meet the set guidelines by the league. With no land available in Billericay after all avenues being looked into the only option available to us is at GP. The new facilities which include full leisure facilities, hotel and new Swimming Pool will benefit both people in Basildon and Billericay along with bringing in new jobs. So this has to be good for the area. I am fully behind this development as it is the future of Billericay Town Football Club. Andrew Turner BTSA-Chairman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 2, 2002 Share Posted October 2, 2002 Mr Turner Missed your point about hiding behind a name. I admit to being an occasional supporter and may be considered not to be as passionate about the club as others, but I am a fan, I attend games, pay my money and enjoy the football. I am committed to supporting the club. I am also involved in youth football where your future players and supporters come from infact some are your members. The area of land is used by us several times a week and we need it. It is not private land it is land that we have paid for through our rates. Apart from that it is free to us. The development of this land will considerably reduce the amount of flat grass in the area by a considerable amount. Many of our players are unable to travel and come from domestic situations that are not ideal. This may not be important to you but it is to us. Have a look over there on a saturday morning and see who the users are. It is wrong that this land be built on, how would you feel if the boot was on the other foot and Basildon United decided to build a stadium on Lake Meadows. The people of Billericay would justifiably be outraged, why should we be any different.The Chairman said other sites were preffered but turned down because there may be local objections by residents. I am sorry but that is not good enough. There are other areas other solutions that have not been exhausted. These points only touch on the objections we have, from the other perspective it is not good for the club many of your existing fan base will not be able to travel that far, you will probably pick up new ones from Basildon but that does not help the local youngsters in Billericay who currently attend. This debate is far from over and I know from talking to people a proper consultation has not been completed and there will be strong objections. I honestly believe that if the club does not continue to seek alternatives 6 or 7 months down the line every body will be very dissapointed and the clubs survival could be threatened. All I am saying is the club must have or prepare a contingency anything else would be foolish. If it has got one what is it, if it has not got one then then that is arrogant and foolish management. There will be a planning meeting and there will be objections, what happens if the local groups are succesfuland persuade their local counsellors to reject this application. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c'mon ricay Posted October 2, 2002 Share Posted October 2, 2002 summed up by da fact that this all part of rod moores grand plan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Nitetime Neil Posted October 6, 2002 Share Posted October 6, 2002 As someone most definitely opposed to the move, who has read the Echo's letters page for the last 30 odd days, I feel wonderfully complacent that any Billericay Town supporters who feel the same as myself will not have to waste any time and energy on "kicking up a stink" and be able to concentrate on enjoying watching the current team playing some truly fine football at their rightful home of New Lodge, as the good folk of Basildon seem to be doing a magnificent job for us of protesting and opposing the plans as one! Apart from one letter from John Unwin weeks ago, I don't recall seeing ONE pro-GP letter from anyone in Billericay. This certainly gives me the impression, and must do the same to the general neutral Echo reading public, that NO-ONE, either from Ricay or Bas wants the thing built - apart obviously from the top brass at BTFC! I'd be fascinated to see a pro-GP piece from this side of the A127 one night in there - anyone want to give it a try? Then we can all watch the replies flood in for another 30 odd days... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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