Kingmaker

[gertcha EFM]

Did they do a song called Armchair Anarchist back in the early 90's ?

[EFM The Firm, The Voice]

Yes, it was out in 1992. I've got it at home on vinyl!

Just failed to make the Top 40 if memory serves me right!

[EFM The Firm, The Voice]

Number 47 after a bit of research!

[gertcha EFM]

Colin Toms - Armchair Anarchist

 

I'm a marked anarchist

Yes, I'm being totally honest

In fact, just the other morning

I was planning a bombing

Firstly, the House Of Lords

then on to the Brit Awards

 

Singing

"Bomb the idiots"

"Bomb all the idiots now"

"Bomb the idiots"

"Bomb all the idiots now"

 

I'm a public enemy

The gallows is where it'll have to be

And there'll be no remorse

for all the panic that I have caused

Just as I light the fuse wire

I can just picture the headlines

 

"Viva Dynamite"

"Viva Dynamite Oh"

"Viva Dynamite"

"Viva Dynamite Oh"

 

To move the world in some way

Without leaving any bad taste

In the mouths of the human race

The human race

 

I'm a young transvestite

I wear clothes that women like

In fact I've got a lovely silken blouse

That just gets me so aroused

 

What do you think of me?

What do you think of me now?

What do you think of me?

What do you think of me now?

 

What will you do to me?

What will you do to me now?

Why don't you shoot me?

Take a gun and shoot me down?

 

'Cause I've lost all faith

In the human race

or is it just another bad day?

[EFM The Firm, The Voice]

How am I an Armchair Anarchist?

 

By having views?

 

Because I don't go out and smash the place up like a real anarchist is this something for me to be ridiculed for?

 

On the flip side, doe's this make you and Zeal armchair Nazi's until you start throwing petrol bombs through the windows of asulum seekers?

[Electric ~soul~]

I've never suggested throwing petrol bombs through anybody's window. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

[EFM The Firm, The Voice]

And what have I suggested?

[gertcha EFM]

How are myself and Zeal Nazi's ?

[Electric ~soul~]

Both the Nazis and the BNP are left-wing parties, Thornsy.

[gertcha EFM]

Don't confuse him.

 

I would respect Colin's views if he actually lived his life by them. The fact is in a lot of cases he moans about how unfair things are - eg tax breaks, but yet he's more than happy to reap the benefits he receives from them.

[EFM The Firm, The Voice]

Like what?

[gertcha EFM]

You benefit from the first £4,895 of your salary being tax free. Never heard you moaning about that before.

Assuming you pay the basic rate of tax this is a saving to you of almost £1,100 a year.

 

As you are so against tax benefits I presume the least you could do is make a donation to some cause close to your heart of this amount. It can't be right you benefiting out of this tax relief can it? Maybe you should give it to Swampy and his crew.

[EFM The Firm, The Voice]

I'd prefere to refer to that as a tax threshold that everyone gets. The quivialant of what I'm talking abouut would be us both earning 25K and you getting the first 9K tax free then a rate of 18%, while I'd get 6K free then 27%

[MK James]

 

Stop whingeing, you're from St. Albans you can afford 50% tax.

[gertcha EFM]

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EFM The Firm, The Voice said:
I'd prefere to refer to that as a tax threshold that everyone gets. The quivialant of what I'm talking abouut would be us both earning 25K and you getting the first 9K tax free then a rate of 18%, while I'd get 6K free then 27%

Sorry mate, you've lost me. That doesn't make any sense what you have written.

Everyone gets a basic tax free allowance (This differs depending to circumstances.) Then everyone pays a flat rate of tax up to a certain level where any earnings above that level incur a higher level of taxation.

Everybody pays tax at the same rate(s). The rates don't differ per individual.

[EFM The Firm, The Voice]

I was trying to explain big american companies tax breaks in simple terms as per the original arguement.

[gertcha EFM]

Oh right. Ok so you reckon that is a real life example of how the American tax system works ?

 

I don't know, as I've not looked into it.

 

So I'm guessing that what you are trying to say is that people pay a higher rate of tax in order to pay back the handouts they have received ? the person paying 27% tax has in the past received a lot of handouts and so has to pay them back now they are working. Am I on the right lines ?

[gertcha EFM]

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EFM The Firm, The Voice said:
I was trying to explain big american companies tax breaks in simple terms as per the original arguement.

Just re-read your post. I have missed the point if you are talking about companies tax breaks.

Why are you trying to explain companies tax breaks in terms of individual employees ? Do you actually know how company taxation works ? It's nothing to do with individual employees.

[EFM The Firm, The Voice]

I was refrerring to company taxes but I used indivial as an example.

 

Replace me with "big company A" and you with "big compamy B" and it may make more sense. You would be a company signed up to the welfare to work scheme!

[gertcha EFM]

I am very confused mate. So a company signing up to a welfare scheme would be taxed at a much lower % on it's profits earned in an accounting period than one that isn't signed up ?

 

Is this regardless of the value of profits made, and is this rate used on total profits earned ?