Enfield Town 1 Hendon 2

[Sponsor of Beer]

Surely an approach can only be deemed illegal if the approacher knows that the player concerned has signed to play for another. If the approacher belives that player to be available and invites him to play, I don't believe he could be accused of doing anything wrong. I'd be careful PBT if I were you (and be grateful more litigeous clubs aren't involved!).

[Guest]

Fortunately (or Unfortunately as it is a disgusting thing to do) I was 3 yards away from the incident and very clearly saw the spitting. I can understand why there was some confusion in the crowd as to why only 1 player was dismissed as very few people would have seen it. As for the melee that followed, no punches were thrown and there were lots of people trying to break it up hence the mess it appeared. What frustrates me most about the whole thing is that the player had been awarded a free kick and failed to give me a chance to deal with the opponent.

 

As for the inconsistentcy I am happy to hold my hands up and say I missed a few challenges (one particular one near the Hendon bench by an ETFC player stands out) but also would say the players who were all trying to impress their respective managers in one of the final pre season games did not help by throwing themselves into tackles unnecesarily. Pre season is all about learning for players and officials, and I for one certainly learned something from this game.

 

All the best for the coming season and I look forward (although you may not) to coming across your team at some point.

[Football Man]

As I said before, I have no further comments to make about illegal approaches on this thread. Suffice to say that no decision has been made by the club yet and that not taking any action at all remains an option. In any situation, the club will always act in the best interests of as many parties as possible without compromising its own position. If a decision is made to act, it will go through official channels.

 

Gonzo - I am fully aware about who approached who in this situation. I am not having a go at Medders particularly. I actually know Alan quite well and I am fairly sure that he would have only made comment as to how well Richard Howard has played when he has watched him play for PBT in the past, as any committed supporter of their club wishing to see their side strengthened would do. How your club reacted to his comments are not Medders fault and I am sure he would not have wished for any parties to become upset as a result. However, I have my reasons for considering that information to be useful.

[lovely stuff]

If you are the ref,thanks for posting.

You were three yards away and you saw the player spit,far enough,he deserved to walk.But you were also 3 yards away when the player accused of spitting was being throlled by an opposing player,and another player violently pushed him in the neck area (one the other one had let go).Both red card offences.In a freindy at least a yellow.No one apart from the players sent off was spoken too,after the melee.

[lovely stuff]

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[Guest]

As I said it probably looked much worse from afar although you may have seen things I didn't depending on your angle. Not sure if you saw or not I confered with the lino to see if he'd seen any violent conduct from his angle and was told I'd already pulled out the guy he'd have sent off.

 

The reason I didn't speak to the original player that fouled your guy was because I unfortunately lost who it was in all the confusion. This is one of the things I need to learn from as it also happened earlier in the game when a Hendon player was fouled and I played an advantage from it.

[Gonzo]

At this level of football it's difficult to lay the blame with anyone other than the player involved. Afterall, we're not talking life-changing salaries or Champion's League football. If a player doesn't want to honour his commitment to your club (for whatever reason!) then that's a matter between the player and the club he originally signed for.

 

A player certainly should know he's playing for 2 different teams at the same time!

[Gazza]

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BCHREF said:
As I said it probably looked much worse from afar although you may have seen things I didn't depending on your angle. Not sure if you saw or not I confered with the lino to see if he'd seen any violent conduct from his angle and was told I'd already pulled out the guy he'd have sent off.

The reason I didn't speak to the original player that fouled your guy was because I unfortunately lost who it was in all the confusion. This is one of the things I need to learn from as it also happened earlier in the game when a Hendon player was fouled and I played an advantage from it.

Appreciate your comments, your honesty is very refreshing.

Thankyou.

[MbrunoB]

Can someone explain how after Brad was sent off play restarted with an indirect free kick to Hendon?

Was the missed incident in front of the Hendon bench the one when the Town players run was stopped with a hand in the face or the bad tackle when he dived in to win the ball back?

[Sponsor of Beer]

'Gonzo - I am fully aware about who approached who in this situation'

 

I think that's called hearsay!

[Hawkeye Pierce]

BCHREF thank you

[MK James]

 

How refreshing for a ref to explain his decisions, and to admit he made mistakes. Maybe one day players and managers will admit when they've not been good enough as well.

[Cyclops]

Re making approaches...

Non-contract players can be registered for more than one club. However, if they are to register for a different one, the new club has to make a seven day approach to all the clubs that player is already registered with.

 

If it is the player who makes the first move, then the club he wants to move to still has to make the approach.

 

But where a player is registered with a Sunday club, a Saturday or midweek-only club would not need to make an approach and vice versa. Same for any other combination of different days.

 

Oh yes, June is open season. You can tap-up any non-contract player you feel like because all the above only counts between 1 July and the following 31 May.

[Gazza]

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Cyclops said:
Re making approaches...
Non-contract players can be registered for more than one club. However, if they are to register for a different one, the new club has to make a seven day approach to all the clubs that player is already registered with.

If it is the player who makes the first move, then the club he wants to move to still has to make the approach.

But where a player is registered with a Sunday club, a Saturday or midweek-only club would not need to make an approach and vice versa. Same for any other combination of different days.

Oh yes, June is open season. You can tap-up any non-contract player you feel like because all the above only counts between 1 July and the following 31 May.

What are the consequencies (if there are any) if this is not adhered too?

[Guest]

Brunob, I actually realised this afternoon whilst chatting with my brother about the game that I messed up the re-start. It should have been a free kick to Enfield Town. Again I can only appologise and say the reaction and the following melee threw me totally.

[Football Man]

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BCHREF said:
Brunob, I actually realised this afternoon whilst chatting with my brother about the game that I messed up the re-start. It should have been a free kick to Enfield Town. Again I can only appologise and say the reaction and the following melee threw me totally.

BCHREF, Good job Mr. Hefford wasn't there to see that then! See you on the Bank Holiday (cup replays permitting).

[Cyclops]

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Gazza said:

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Cyclops said:
Re making approaches...
Non-contract players can be registered for more than one club. However, if they are to register for a different one, the new club has to make a seven day approach to all the clubs that player is already registered with.

If it is the player who makes the first move, then the club he wants to move to still has to make the approach.

But where a player is registered with a Sunday club, a Saturday or midweek-only club would not need to make an approach and vice versa. Same for any other combination of different days.

Oh yes, June is open season. You can tap-up any non-contract player you feel like because all the above only counts between 1 July and the following 31 May.

What are the consequencies (if there are any) if this is not adhered too?

I think this depends on whether there is a formal complaint by one club against another and what the full facts of the matter are. It does not seem to be considered as problematic as a club tapping up a contracted player though.

[MbrunoB]

So it's not just the players that needed the pre-season?