Hempstead Gaz Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 From the BBC Kent/Sports/Gills forum today. A quality read if anyone has time. "Geoff Larkfield Apparently Mr.Cooper has said that after the game against Notts.County he needs to address certain areas , i think that most of us supporters could have told him that a while back. WE NEED SOME NEW BLOOD A.S.A.P or we will be struggling next season Tue Jul 19 12:46:18 2005 <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Dave, Rainham I understand Scally is a businessman, he has kept this club afloat for a good number of years. However neglecting the football side is a serious problem. He has not really had to worry about that side of the business for a long time, as we have always had a good core number of players/leaders. However this core is no longer there. I think this is the underlying problem Scally faces. Promotion to the "Championship" was an amazing feat!!! The lads did well to get there and deserved it. Scally now needs to direct all his energy to what goes on the pitch to restore some order and make sense of the division we are now in. Unfortunately I'm sure we are still in debt, the ground still being paid for? For this season it will be a "Fat Cow". Low attendancy and over priced tickets to make up for the loss in income. I'm sorry to say, for us Supporters it's going to be a hard time ahead !!. The joke is, if we don't put together a good enough team, we will back where we started all those years ago, in the 4th Division. Now that is a very very sad image !!!! Scally its time to wake up and do something, and if you can't then at least be honest to your fans and tell us. I'm sure the Gills could find a new chairman if need arose. UP THE GILLS !!!! Tue Jul 19 10:54:03 2005 <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Trev, Maidstone Am I the only Gills fan on this message board that has had enough of Scally's stupid grading schemes for matches? I have just looked on the GFC website and I hope that the prices shown on that are those of last season and just havent been updated yet! The cost for an AAA game varies between £24 and £33. To pay that to watch Forest is just plan silly. I for one wont be going to Priestfield this season if these prices stay....away travel + away ticket prices will work out cheaper than visiting Priestfield. Lets look forward to attendances of 5000...if we're lucky. Mon Jul 18 19:07:27 2005 <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Neil....Hoo Well done Paul Scally,at this rate you`ll see that we get relegated twice in two seasons.Excellent work Paul,pat yourself on the back.Then sell your holding in the club and GO AWAY. Mon Jul 18 17:51:37 2005 <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> James Gillingham The squad that was put out on saturday, on paper looks dreadful & by all accounts was worse on grass.Crofts captain ? Hess & Roberts half a game each ? No Henderson (i wonder why ?.And only 19 Days till it matters. Mon Jul 18 16:51:56 2005" <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/bootyshake.gif" alt="" /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravesend Gills Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 Like I said earlier fair enough I’ll except that things ain’t great at Gillingham either, but I think we should be okay this season – probably finish up about mid-table I would have thought, which in light of what has happened isn’t that bad is it? Sure 50,000 people turned up at Wembley to see us win promotion but how many of those go regularly? Most we’re from all over Kent but only seven or eight thousand can be considered Gills. Like most true Gills fans I can remember what life was like in the bottom three of the old Fourth Division so seeing what I’ve seen in the last few season I’m hardly going to complain am I? I’ll be honest and admit that in my opinion we were punching well above or weight and in my lifetime I’ve only ever realistically seen the club as a lower division side – which makes our achievements of the last few years all the more enjoyable for true Gills fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry J Allstars Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 Why come in here and bait us lot then? Not getting enough at home? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hempstead Gaz Posted July 20, 2005 Author Share Posted July 20, 2005 So why come on here slagging off the fleet, when history shows this is our ongoing most successful ever time? We are now into our 4th season in the Conference, can now employ full time players, have a catchment area and potential new fanbase that the Scally would die for, and a board that is planning a brand new stadium within 4 years. I personally have no truck with Gills fans, many are good friends of mine, my only grievance is with your toerag chairman, who wants to sell the soul of your club, and franchise it to where we are planning to relocate. If you continue with the Scally at your helm, I forsee nothing but trouble ahead - an opinion with as I have proved is held by countless other Gills fans. Before being critical of Fleet, perhaps you should address your energies to sorting out your own club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravesend Gills Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 Okay fair enough Scally can be a prick at times but then show me the written rule that says Chairman knows best. Your chairman is hardly brilliant is he? Keeps bleating about being the club with the most potential in Kent, but does he knows the first thing about running a club at your level? He hasn’t a clue how to take the club onto the next level, attract new supporters or advertise the club so how are you going to do this? Alright after I heard your result last night I thought I’d come on here for a bit of a laugh, but I honestly wish your club no harm. I honestly mean it when I say that I would be excited at the prospect of seeing two clubs from Kent playing League Football only a few miles apart (even if we would always be the better and bigger club). Imagine the excitement in the area if we ever faced each other in a meaningful League or FA Cup fixture? How often do you get the chance to have a bit of banter in the pub, workplace or wherever with Canvey or Margate fans? Probably never, but I work with lads who go over the Fleet and would love the chance of a bit of banter leading up to such a fixture. All that said, your still Mickey Mouse though ain’t yer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hempstead Gaz Posted July 20, 2005 Author Share Posted July 20, 2005 And with the Scally, your Donald Ducked!!! <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu M Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 Quote: Gravesend Gills said: but I honestly wish your club no harm. Great, made your point. Can you bugger off now? Pretty please...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravesend Gills Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 Ha Ha, Dunno about that. I accept that he's a bit of a div at times but I really can't even see him taking us down to the Conference – I honestly never expected the club to get anywhere near the First Division this time ten years ago let alone have a chairman banging on about all-seater stadium’s, casino’s and Premiership football. All this talk of tapping into potential support, marketing a club to gain support and so on is a bag of bollox anyway, it’s only come about over the last few years. I used to remember when fans would have a bit of banter at the rivals expense, talk about how poor their team are, and look forward to decent away fixtures or keep their fingers crossed for a good cup run or whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 Gravesend Gills is Longshanks/Fleet Loyal and i claim my £5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry J Allstars Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 Quote: Gravesend Gills said: All that said, your still Mickey Mouse though ain’t yer? Did I mention I'm a Chelsea fan? Oh the days I've spent laugh at watching the Gills try to beat Chelsea in various cup competitions. Take your pick. 5-0 In 2000. We won the cup that year, Vialli didn't even class you lot as real opposition so gave John Terry his full debut. 4-2 in January 2001. Jesper Gronkear made a fantastic debute by getting two goals. He was crap for the rest of the time he played for us but when facing crap opposition like Gillingham he looked world class. League cup October 2003. 2-1 on this night and even Carlton Cole managed to walk the ball around your goalkeeper to stroke the ball in the back of the net. This is the thing that really annoys me about clubs out of their depth and on Confguide especially. York, Hereford and Exeter all tell me there big clubs as they've played league football, they're tinpot compared to Chelsea, Man Utd and Arsenal. I wouldn't even consider Chelsea a big club, it's not a term to be banded around losely and you can't "buy big club status" as Chelsea are trying to do. That comes from years in the top flight Arsenal esque, or Numerous European Cup wins ie Man Utd or how about the 18 league titles managed by Liverpool? A big club is not someone that manages a few years in the second flight of English football with nothing else to boast. It is messured by many differnt thing and while yours stature is greater than ours, theres always a bigger fish out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry J Allstars Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 Quote: Jimmy said: Gravesend Gills is Longshanks/Fleet Loyal and i claim my £5. Wheel invented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hempstead Gaz Posted July 20, 2005 Author Share Posted July 20, 2005 As an alledged Gills supporter GG, a serious question, is the Scally still planning to quit the Gills in 3/4 years time to persue interests "outside" of football? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravesend Gills Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 Quote: Jimmy said: Gravesend Gills is Longshanks/Fleet Loyal and i claim my £5. Never heard of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 If you knew why do you keep feeding him then? Mentioning you are a Chelsea fan as well gives him all the ammunition he needs, like when Ukranian Phil laughed at you on Confguide. Think before posting, sometimes you make me question your intellect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry J Allstars Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 Sorry Jimmy, off work at the moment and bored. Start new job tommorrow. Won't happen again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravesend Gills Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 Quote: Harry J Allstars said: Did I mention I'm a Chelsea fan? Oh the days I've spent laugh at watching the Gills try to beat Chelsea in various cup competitions. Take your pick. 5-0 In 2000. We won the cup that year, Vialli didn't even class you lot as real opposition so gave John Terry his full debut. 4-2 in January 2001. Jesper Gronkear made a fantastic debute by getting two goals. He was crap for the rest of the time he played for us but when facing crap opposition like Gillingham he looked world class. League cup October 2003. 2-1 on this night and even Carlton Cole managed to walk the ball around your goalkeeper to stroke the ball in the back of the net. This is the thing that really annoys me about clubs out of their depth and on Confguide especially. York, Hereford and Exeter all tell me there big clubs as they've played league football, they're tinpot compared to Chelsea, Man Utd and Arsenal. I wouldn't even consider Chelsea a big club, it's not a term to be banded around losely and you can't "buy big club status" as Chelsea are trying to do. That comes from years in the top flight Arsenal esque, or Numerous European Cup wins ie Man Utd or how about the 18 league titles managed by Liverpool? A big club is not someone that manages a few years in the second flight of English football with nothing else to boast. It is messured by many differnt thing and while yours stature is greater than ours, theres always a bigger fish out there. I would consider Chelsea a big club, but that’s not as a result of anything they have achieved in the nineties or Roman Abramovich. They’ve got good support, a hardcore following of twenty or so thousand which is more than most in England – I don’t go in for including all the new fans you hear about because basically these people are a joke to football. For most clubs a visit to Chelsea or from Chelsea would be viewed with excitement. But fair enough Chelsea can’t be considered in the same breath as Real Madrid, Juventus, and Barcelona and so on. I would never ever use the words Gillingham and big club in the same sentence nor would most supporters. We’re a league football club that’s all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravesend Gills Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 I think it's kind of weird how Fleet supporters choose league clubs to follow as well. Still seems a few of you accept that you'll never gain League status. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry J Allstars Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 Hang on a minute wait there. I know you Fleet Loyal and know you've been reading this message board for a while but you might have missed my situation regarding Chelsea. I have deffered my support from them to the Fleet for want of a better atmosphere, more friendly approach ect ect. Like I have said before many people were born into the Fleet, well I choose them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
American FLEET FAN No1 Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 Nothing to do with it being cheaper following the Fleet , Harry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UP FLEET Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 Quote: Gravesend Gills said: I think it's kind of weird how Fleet supporters choose league clubs to follow as well. Still seems a few of you accept that you'll never gain League status. I along with many others have supported a league club since i was about 6 years old, ( spurs in my case) and i always will. I take my boy up there and at £80 odd pound for two tickets i think is a bloody joke.I started to follow the fleet about mid way through the promotion season thanks to my brother who kept telling what a fantastic time he had every time he watched them play home and away. I desided to go along one day for a few beers, and have been hooked ever since.So i do not choose a league club as well i choose to support the fleet, as my local team, i would much rather spend 50 quid plus on an away trip to say accy or northwich etc or on a home game than give the likes of spurs my hard earned cash.And as for accepting the fleet as never making league status, you talk complete crap, no supporter would accept his chosen club could not better them selves. You said ealier that all those people in medway that choose not to support the gills are clowns, you have no right to judge people's preferences or to call them names because they dont fall into your way of thinking.I dont think any different of an Arsenal fan who comes to the fleet as of a chelsea fan, we all choose who we like, and normally its from a young age.We all choose not to like a club for whatever reason,the same as we do to support a team,My dislike is arsenal but a lot of my mates are Arsenal fans, i dont go round slagging them off.If you have nothing better to do than judge people on here, do it some where else. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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