I feel lost today...

[YB941 5thD EFM ~soul~]

Just about to leave for work.

 

Can't wait to get stuck into Thornsy's latest thread on this subject!

[Electric ~soul~]

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What a load of fking bollox, I probably own more records than you, ahve been to more gigs than you (even if they have been crap underground indie bands)

You can't claim to have a wide knowledge of music, just because you go and watch two artists - one; a guy 10-15 years past his prime and without a successful record to his name for thirteen years, and two; the next big thing, so good in fact that they recently scored a No.106 album - several times a week.

Yes, you have been to more gigs, but the gigs I've been to (and I've been to a good 70-80 or so) are certainly a lot more varied than yours.

You can't claim to have a wide knowledge of music, just because you have a 6ft tall pile of warped 12" singles by bands that no-one has ever heard of.

I've seen your CD collection mate, and other than one or two big Baggy/Britpop albums (Stone Roses, Blur etc.) you don't have a single Classic Album to your name.

How can you claim to have a wide and knowledgeable taste in music, when you know nothing about rock pre-1989?

Can you name a single member of Pink Floyd? Can you name a single album by the Rolling Stones? I very much doubt it on both fronts.

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If you check my previous message I talk about Northen Soul as being soul music from america in the late 60's, it arrived in the UK in main in the early 70's which coinsided with the rise of places like Wigan Casino and the Mecca in Blackpool.

Yes, funnily enough, I read exactly the same thing when I google-searched Northern Soul yesterday.

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So I have a Northen Soul t-shirt, fk me, how pretentious do you think I am, do you own any Beatles ones?

Hmmm, not sure of the point you're making. I don't think I own a Beatles t-shirt, but I have my Lennon peace one that's in my avatar.

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how dare you sit there like your some kind of music guru when I've never met anyone with such an insular taste.

Music guru? Yeah, I like that. Insular music taste? Not so much. Colin, you have the most insular music taste of everyone I know. And I know Claire.

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And I have plenty of friends into Northen Soul, just because you don't know them.

No you don't.

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And a lot of the hippy crap you listen to was all about 60's love, don't remember seeing you there either.

I'm failing to understand the point you're making again here, mate. Punk was about the attitude. The Sex Pistols, as 'musicians', completely sucked. One could only like their music if it reminded them of a certain time in their youth.

Not sure why you "have to be there" to like the Beatles or Simon & Garfunkel, who I presume are the artists to which you refer when you label my tastes as "hippy crap".


Part two coming shortly...

[gertcha EFM]

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Tommy Collins said:

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gertcha EFM said:

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The Lyrical Tarantula said:
And I have plenty of friends into Northen Soul, just because you don't know them.

A list would be good. Cheers mate.

Why do you guys hate each other so much?

This isn't the Carter board mate. This is real life.

[Tommy Collins]

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gertcha EFM said:

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Tommy Collins said:

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gertcha EFM said:

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The Lyrical Tarantula said:
And I have plenty of friends into Northen Soul, just because you don't know them.

A list would be good. Cheers mate.

Why do you guys hate each other so much?

This isn't the Carter board mate. This is real life.

'Real Life' isn't that an album by Magazine? Like it? I do. That's the key to this debate really, liking music.

I like my music, from the Sex Pistols to Jim Reeves, from Art Brut to Abba. Zealsters idea that everyone must own 'classic' albums is barking up the wrong tree. Zealster you're barking mate.

Own what you like, like what you want, does it matter if someone likes something for the wrong reason?

[gertcha EFM]

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gertcha EFM said:

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The Lyrical Tarantula said:
And I have plenty of friends into Northen Soul, just because you don't know them.

A list would be good. Cheers mate.

Just in case you missed the request Big C.

[Electric ~soul~]

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Zealsters idea that everyone must own 'classic' albums is barking up the wrong tree. Zealster you're barking mate.

That's not quite what I said.

In order to be able to claim to be knowledgeable about music, then yes, I believe you need a collection widely-spread over several genres, including the all-time classic albums.

Sure people can own what they want - that's the whole point of individual taste, isn't it?

But I won't have people (err... one person in particular!) telling me how much he knows about music and how great his collection is, when the most mainstream album he owns is probably 30 Something!!

[The Lyrical Tarantula]

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Zealster ~soul~ said:

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What a load of fking bollox, I probably own more records than you, ahve been to more gigs than you (even if they have been crap underground indie bands)

You can't claim to have a wide knowledge of music, just because you go and watch two artists - one; a guy 10-15 years past his prime and without a successful record to his name for thirteen years, and two; the next big thing, so good in fact that they recently scored a No.106 album - several times a week.

Yes, you have been to more gigs, but the gigs I've been to (and I've been to a good 70-80 or so) are certainly a lot more varied than yours.

You can't claim to have a wide knowledge of music, just because you have a 6ft tall pile of warped 12" singles by bands that no-one has ever heard of.

I've seen your CD collection mate, and other than one or two big Baggy/Britpop albums (Stone Roses, Blur etc.) you don't have a single Classic Album to your name.

How can you claim to have a wide and knowledgeable taste in music, when you know nothing about rock pre-1989?

Can you name a single member of Pink Floyd? Can you name a single album by the Rolling Stones? I very much doubt it on both fronts.

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If you check my previous message I talk about Northen Soul as being soul music from america in the late 60's, it arrived in the UK in main in the early 70's which coinsided with the rise of places like Wigan Casino and the Mecca in Blackpool.

Yes, funnily enough, I read exactly the same thing when I google-searched Northern Soul yesterday.

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So I have a Northen Soul t-shirt, fk me, how pretentious do you think I am, do you own any Beatles ones?

Hmmm, not sure of the point you're making. I don't think I own a Beatles t-shirt, but I have my Lennon peace one that's in my avatar.

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how dare you sit there like your some kind of music guru when I've never met anyone with such an insular taste.

Music guru? Yeah, I like that. Insular music taste? Not so much. Colin, you have the most insular music taste of everyone I know. And I know Claire.

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And I have plenty of friends into Northen Soul, just because you don't know them.

No you don't.

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And a lot of the hippy crap you listen to was all about 60's love, don't remember seeing you there either.

I'm failing to understand the point you're making again here, mate. Punk was about the attitude. The Sex Pistols, as 'musicians', completely sucked. One could only like their music if it reminded them of a certain time in their youth.

Not sure why you "have to be there" to like the Beatles or Simon & Garfunkel, who I presume are the artists to which you refer when you label my tastes as "hippy crap".


Part two coming shortly...

I've just read this you fking prick, how dare you sit there telling me about googling northern soul, about my friends (just because you only have about 3), I have been to Brighton Beach with Geordie Alan and we're going on the next weekender, and about classic albums, I have very little intrest in these classic albums you talk about I used to have Bridge over troubled water and it's crap, do you own never mind the [****!!****]????. I could name all the members of Pink Floyd but, once again, you'd accuse me of googling.
Juse becasue you've obviosuly got old before your time don't take it out on me, there is a lot of good new music out there but you're so stuck in the past.
You need a time machine and to take you and your britpop albums back to 1965.

I'm not discussing music with a patronising [****!!****] like you anymore!

[Electric ~soul~]

Hahaha! Three friends! Good comeback!!

 

Yes, I do own Never Mind The [****!!****]. And it's rubbish!

 

(I don't like Bridge Over Troubled Water, for that matter either. Check out my comments on the two S&G albums to make my Top 100 - I slate it.)

[The Lyrical Tarantula]

Ok, maybe it's 6 <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

 

I have a good 40% of your top 100 albums anyway.

 

Tell you what, you patronising [****!!****] <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />, you copy me some classic tracks that you think I might like and I'll sort you out some classic punk and northern soul.

Then maybe we can stop digging at each other

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

patronising [****!!****]

[Tommy Collins]

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Zealster ~soul~ said:

I do own Never Mind The [****!!****]. And it's rubbish!

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Well that's [****!!****] for a start. Of all the original punk albums, that's the one that stands the test of time.
Not a bad track on it.

[Electric ~soul~]

Yeah, but you're basing that on your own personal memories of the era, Tommy.

 

Just as there are albums in my Top 100 list that wouldn't get in on quality alone, but because they evoke memories of a golden era, are listened to through rose-tinted headphones!

[Electric ~soul~]

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The Lyrical Tarantula said:
you copy me some classic tracks that you think I might like and I'll sort you out some classic punk and northern soul.

Thornsy - I'd like nothing better than to copy you some great albums from my list that you don't own.

Unfortunately, I think the main difference between you and I is that you like your music to be 'instant'.

A lot of the classic stuff on my list I think you'd find boring or (to use your favourite word) bland on first listen, and I don't know whether you have the patience to persevere with stuff you're not overly interested in in the first place.

'Instant' music tends to have a short shelf-life, but stuff that takes longer to penetrate tends to hang around longer.

Cheers for the offer of some classic punk and northern soul too, and although it is appreciated, I have a couple of comps from both genres already.

[The Lyrical Tarantula]

Funny you should say that, because a lot of my stuff isn't instant as well and some of the slower stuff which you've instantly compared to something else and wrote off as bland needs a few listens as well, if you'd extend the courtesy to me I'd do the same for you!

[Electric ~soul~]

The thing is mate, I don't want to waste two or three hours of my valuable time giving the new Spinmaster Plantpot LP a few listens, only to be ultimately disappointed when it doesn't turn out to be a long-lost classic, when in the same time, I could have listened to Abbey Road, Blue, Led Zep III (fast growing on me, Gazza!) and Bookends, whilst chilling out with a book and a magazine.

[Chubbhead EFM]

I like Nevermind The [****!!****]!

 

I think that album is very much a teenage album. I bought it when I was a teenager, all those hormones racing around and feeling like the whole world is against you <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> I reckon if I bought it now, now that I'm out of teenhood I'd probably feel differently about it

[CANV EFM]

to truly appreciate punk you would really (to coin an over used phrase) 'had to have been there' it was a product of its time and if you were in the right place at the right age then those songs would bring back some awesome memories..

some of the music associated with the genre was good and the spin offs from it led to some excellent bands..

but bouncing up n down, godding at everyone and slamming whilst pissed was great for about 2 hours only...

the sex pistols were the commercial packaged version of the anarchy that punk was supposed to represent, and as such signalled punks enevitable demise..

[EFM The Firm, The Voice]

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Zealster ~soul~ said:
I don't want to waste two or three hours of my valuable time giving the new Spinmaster Plantpot LP a few listens

How do you expect me to take you seriously when every thread turns into some dig about a crap support act I saw with gertcha back in April. Very predictable and equally poor <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

[Electric ~soul~]

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to truly appreciate punk you would really (to coin an over used phrase) 'had to have been there'

the sex pistols were the commercial packaged version of the anarchy that punk was supposed to represent

Cheers CANV - exactly the point I was trying to make, though I think Chubbster may have it spot-on about the age you buy the album. I bought it aged about 27 and it didn't impress at all.

Thornsy probably bought it about the same age, but he still considers himself a teennager, and therefore loves it!

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How do you expect me to take you seriously when every thread turns into some dig about a crap support act I saw with gertcha back in April. Very predictable and equally poor

Just trying to be honest. You sent me around 15-20 tracks a couple of weeks ago and I thought two of them were okay.

Just okay.

None of it was actually good.

[gertcha EFM]

Yeah, but to stick up for Thornsy here, you can get into a band after they have been famous.

 

He didn't get into the Inspirals until 2003, 11 or 10 years after me and Zeal had seen them live, and 14 years since there first major single, and now they are one of his favourite groups.

[Electric ~soul~]

That's true.

 

And if it hadn't have been for Clint, he wouldn't have got into Northern Soul either.