child protection policies and procedures

[TB&G]

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zody said:
stupid reply Oldie, wait till it happens at your gaff, or a niece or newphrew of yours or better still your child, then see how the FA react, you lot will get slaughtered, like most others showing themselves up.

all I am doing is making you lot aware how the way these matters are tackled.

What is of a lot more importance to me Zody is how safe the streets and environment are for me and others like me so that we can freely travel around the urban areas of our greeen and pleasant land without fear or anxiety.

NOW THAT'S BL**DY IMPORTANT!

Not the witterings of psuedo liberals from behind their safe high walls who would be the first to complain if THEIR peace and tranquility was disturbed.

And who force on us their half baked theories of what is right or wrong and have created a society where ordinary decent and normal people can't raise a finger to protect their property against the little monsters these moron's society has created. Where a non family adult can't even ruffle a kids hair in friendship or smile at a friendly little face in case they are accused of being paedophiles.

In fact I'm totally fed up with the growing pettifogging regulations created by these people and others like them that are reducing our personal freedoms more and more each day with their loads and loads of unadulterated crap.

AND THAT TO ME IS IMPORTANT!

Oh and by the way -


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[coupwotcoup]

...and I hate poofs too!

[zody]

thanks now for listening and giving a sensible reply, it may make others do the same, this my friends is how serious the FA will now take things, its called, BEST PRACTICE, just so people WILL conduct things that are involved in football at all levels. hopefully TO A HIGHER STANDARD.

 

Amen, Something to think hard about, but hopefully anyone that has done the FA Child Protection Courses will continue to answer and back up on how much red tape there is.

 

Did you know a CRB Check has to be done by everyone directly involved with children, not only at football, in all walks of life

[Uncle Urchin]

zody...with the greatest respect...do you think that we don't know all this and do you think that we don't already have a child protection policy at the club...we have had one for 3 years...way before you started boring the ar*e off everyone with your new 5 minute wonder....

 

I agree with BF...this country is bolloxed and has been hijacked by bent politicians and teenage thugs who have more rights than law abiding folk....

 

do you know that a man had his camera confiscated whilst on holiday in taunton for taking a foto of his OWN kids at an outdoor swimming pool....

 

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[zody]

this is my point, red tape and madness, its not a 5 minute wonder, I was featured in the FA CHILD PROTECTION newsletter that was circulated around the whole FA, on how well I treated this issue, but awareness has to be made at all levels and in the public eye at all times

[coupwotcoup]

..and this new law coming in.....seven years possibly for saying all Muzzies are a load of tossers (and Devil worshipers too), but the great and the good of the land say that ferals who burgle your house, must not be sent down after just one offence.

Trouble is nobody has the guts or the werewithal to stand up to it anymore.

What was it the leader of the CIA said in the 70s....Once you have them by the balls, then their hearts and minds will follow.

Never a truer word methinks.

[theofficeboy]

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Boro Fan said:

In fact I'm totally fed up with the growing pettifogging regulations created by these people and others like them that are reducing our personal freedoms more and more each day with their loads and loads of unadulterated crap.

Ha Ha. Pettifogging. I like it. I like it very much. Word of the week for me now. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

[TB&G]

Invoice is in the post TOB.

 

PETTIFOGGING Something petty or trivial.In the later middle ages, there was a class of lawyers who earned their livings making a great deal of fuss over minor legal cases. About 1560 they came to be called pettifoggers. They often had limited concern for scruples or conscience and the term was deeply contemptuous.Petty, then as now, meant something minor or trivial (from the French petit, small), so that part is obvious enough, but where does fogger come from?Theories abound. One of the better known, and quoted as fact in a few dictionaries, is that it originated in a German family named Fugger, who were successful merchants and financiers of the fifteenth and sixteenth centuries, based in Augsburg. German, together with Dutch and other Germanic languages, also had variations on fugger as a word for people who were wealthy or grasping about money, or whose business methods were disreputable. Hence in English fogger, dating from the later sixteenth century but long obsolete, was a word for an underhand dealer; this might just be the source.Another form used at the time was pettifactor, which might have come from an old sense of factor for a person who acts as an agent, so somebody who looks after small matters for others. However, most experts think that pettifactor actually came along later as a corrupted form of pettifogger. People were trying to make sense of this odd word fogger that didn’t then exist in the language and converted it to one they knew.The lawyers called pettifoggers spent their time arguing about matters of small importance. The term became popular, and spawned derivatives like pettifogging. These survived the original term, which is now considered archaic, but we retain in the latter word the idea of somebody who places too much emphasis on trifles or who quibbles about minor matters.

 

 

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[Uncle Urchin]

are you saying then BF that Zody is a pettifogger.... <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

[TB&G]

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Uncle Urchin said:
are you saying then BF that Zody is a pettifogger.... <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Would I thus describe such a valued member of the Boro team?

Not really. It's just a generic term I picked on to describe anyone or group who happen to p*ss me off at any particular time.

Nitpicking would do just as well!



nitpicking

noun {U} INFORMAL DISAPPROVING


giving too much attention to unimportant details, especially as a way of criticizing:

- If you spent less time nitpicking, you'd get more work done.

nitpicking

adjective INFORMAL DISAPPROVING

- a nitpicking attitude

nitpick

verb {I} INFORMAL DISAPPROVING

- Must you nitpick (= find fault with details) all the time?

nitpicker

noun {C} INFORMAL DISAPPROVING

Perhaps you, TOB,Coup and I could discuss all the alternative words we like to sound of to describe people/situations who/which aggravate us at the forthcoming ESL beano if Coup pulls his finger out and makes the arrangements.

Sorry Coup. Got a bit carried away. Nitpicking!


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[Clocksider]

Zody, I know this is a serious subject, but are you saying that we have all now got to go on an FA course to find out what paedophiles get up to? I would prefer one where we could discuss what to do to them, whilst infringeing as many of their human rights as possible.

 

The trouble with many of these "stating the bleeding obvious" courses is that they are primarily designed to give profitable employment to those who run them.

[coupwotcoup]

..and not forgetting the bonding courses, where you have to make Tower Bridge from empty bog roll inners (mind you think they are banned now, matches are a no no, so bull sh!t it is then).

Sit in a circle round the camp fire drinking unsweetened ribena, making daisy chains (the flower version!) and calling each other sister.

Also self-flaggellation with hawbush branches if anyone mentions the word black...

[Clocksider]

Mmmmm! Where can I sign up?

[TB&G]

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zody said:
have clubs in the Essex Senior League ever considered the following.

Just say a problem arose at a games involving a child, it could be emotional, physical, mental,abuse, what would you do, how would you deal with it within the FA guidelines

A serious question going back to your original post Zody.

What are the FA guidelines on the emotional, mental and physical abuse suffered by children playing in official competitive football matches who are shouted and screamed at by other players' parents watching from the touchline?

I believe that this problem is quite widespread and of great concern to the administrators of the game and in particular the match officials involved the games.

At our level we are dealing with youngsters of just under 16 and above who are young adults in many ways and are learning the hard competitive ways of adult football.

I believe that they are mostly accompanied by a member of their family or close family friend who come to watch them play and support their team as well as acting as their temporary guardian
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I think that you are getting a tad carried away with the principles rather than the practicalities
involved in the participation of children in the sport of association football at our club level.

The FA's guidelines, I suspect, cover every eventuality.

In our case we should just concentrate on the narrow applications as they affect Romford FC and other clubs like us.

I suggest that it would be to the benefit of our club if you look carefully at all these directives that come from the FA , select only those parts which particularly apply to us and discard the others.

It could save you and the Boro a lot of time in the long run



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[theofficeboy]

Obviously, if you go on one of the FA courses they do cover, if not bombard you with every eventuality as part of that course. I suspect the trick is taking from it the salient points that affect your particular club, whilst having a good grounding in other matters that may arise from time to time - hopefully never.

 

Personally speaking, I don't think enough emphasis is put on general crowd safety and security, evacuation plans and risk assessment.

 

More and more it does seem though that the FA for us non-leaguers is just a beguinage.

[zody]

I left replying to see what respone we got to this thread.

 

these courses are to make you aware of child safety, I do agree, Child Protection is very heavy name, to use.

 

as, office, has said aswell, more notice should also be taken of crowd safety

 

 

Romford have now got there own child protection officer after attending the course last thursday and hopefully reads these postings and gives up todate info, if anyone has any questions.

 

IF NOT ASK ME AND I WILL FIND OUT

 

An issue to do with police checking your volunteers has changed, anyone directly involved in Football and children must be CRB checked, they last 3 years.

 

check out http://www.thefa.com/TheFA/GOALChildProtection/BehindTheGoalProject/

[TB&G]

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theofficeboy said:
Obviously, if you go on one of the FA courses they do cover, if not bombard you with every eventuality as part of that course. I suspect the trick is taking from it the salient points that affect your particular club, whilst having a good grounding in other matters that may arise from time to time - hopefully never.

Personally speaking, I don't think enough emphasis is put on general crowd safety and security, evacuation plans and risk assessment.

More and more it does seem though that the FA for us non-leaguers is just a beguinage.

Beguinage, beguinage!

What the pettifogging h*ll is that all about TOB?

Be`gui`nage´
n. 1. A collection of small houses surrounded by a wall and occupied by a community of Beguines.

Will AFC Beguines also be playing in the ESL next season then?

First I've heard about it and do the FA know?

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[theofficeboy]

Beguines in the 12th century were sisterhoods where the members were bound by non-perpetual but ever changing vows. Some still exist.

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[theofficeboy]

Come to think of it, didn't someone write a song about beginning a beguine?

[TB&G]

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theofficeboy said:
Beguines in the 12th century were sisterhoods where the members were bound by non-perpetual but ever changing vows. Some still exist.
I give you Soho Square you pettifogging jaunderer <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

How dare you call me a pettifogging jaunderer you
plagiaristic malcontent!

So what if a beguinage is a retreat for novice dancing nuns.

What on earth do their existence have to do with Sir Zody, knight of the everlasting postering, and his latest crusade?

Tell me?

But without searching the old English guide to archaic badinage first!


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