jumping the gun a bit i know AFC DONS stuff

[c'mon ricay]

but will AFC dons be all ticket

 

will their be segregation

 

I think the club should stick the cost of ticket up a bit for non fans who have come down to cover the extra costs stewarding police etc

 

to make it fair on the real fans this could be done by handing out vouchers on the gate at the home saturday before and make this clear in the ground, local press the club may even see an increase in the previous att all good

 

also students should be admitted at normal price as for some its a long time consuming costly trip

[Kevin M (CCFC)]

Hmm, treading on stoney ground there...

 

Hastings tried changing their prices /offering home fans vouchers for their match with AFC but had to backtrack after a big outcry from AFC fans. Recall masses of postings on this topic (several weeks before the game was played) on AFC and Hastings messageboards.

[c'mon ricay]

Well simple have a different turnstile for home n away fans as I have no doubt the game will be segregated as we cant expect to contribute as we get a cut from the gate their does what % would be. Im sure youre aware of the setup at NL being such regular maybe when youre bored of the 'football' offered you could continue Sat trips to the beautiful footballing mecca of NL

[Kevin M (CCFC)]

Thought you would want to attract a good-sized crowd for your game with them, not deter supporters from turning up in numbers?

 

Better still, if you're brave enough, why not post your idea on an AFC forum and wait for the

response.......undoubtably liven up things over the pre-season period....

[BrightBlue]

Quote:

c'mon ricay said:
I think the club should stick the cost of ticket up a bit for non fans who have come down to cover the extra costs stewarding police etc

Why should they? They didn't when we played Exeter or Stevenage.

The stewards are not paid. They do it coz they want to. It wouldn't cost any more.

If we went to any away game next season and they put the price up just coz it was Billericay Town, we would never hear the end of it.

Not a good idea, in my opinion!

[YELLOW]

I remember several years ago when Aldershot were in the Ryman League and taking several hundred supporters to away games that some clubs upped their prices just because it was Aldershot.

[jl]

Raising the entry price for one league game over any other league game would in my view be a massive mistake. We want the Oppo supporters (from all clubs) to get to the ground early and spend some money in the bar and on programmes and food and 50/50 etc, something they are hardly likely to do if they feel they are being ripped off.

 

I would imagine that if the club membership scheme operates as last season the 50p discount for club members would still apply but that's it.

 

We managed 1800 against Stevenage and over 1500 against Chelmsford without segregation, hopefully we can manage without it vs. the Dons.

[Ozbrit]

Its hard to see how 2000+ could safely be accommodated at your ground. Surely the Police have a say in these matters.

[Simon BTFC]

Don't be silly Ozbrit... we've got a capacity (as approved by all relevent bodies) of 3,500... We've had gates of 2,000+ in recent seasons (Rushden etc) without a problem... 5 New Lodge gates over 1000 in the season just gone including Stevenage at over 1800... Would venture to suggest that if we would struggle then so would every other club in the division, yourselves included... The extension to the clubhouse gives us what will probably be one of the biggest bars in the leage next season... won't be a problem.

[Ozbrit]

Thats good Simon, obviously from your response repairs have now been effected since my most recent visit to New Lodge 18 months ago. On that (and previous occasions) considerable erosion and cracking to the concrete stepping behind the far goal was evident together with rust corrosion to the peculiar Iron stand behind the nearside goal. So obvious were these flaws (particularly to the concrete) that those around me considered it worth talking about. I for one would steer well clear of that Iron stand if it was anywhere near its capacity.

 

On a more general note there are serious safety issues to contend with, with any events involving the general public, you can't just pack 'em in' as some seem to be suggesting and because things went ok in the past isn't a guarantee or 'get out' excuse if things happen to go wrong in future.

 

The bar and the clubhouse have their own rules re: capacities set at the time of licensing which the club are expected to adhere to.

[Simon BTFC]

Who said anything about packing em in... 2000 is less than 60% of the grounds stated capacity... I would rather be in the position of knowing that we've accomodated 2000+ in the recent past than not having done so and being caught out. How confident are you that Cressing Road could accomodate 2000+ or even 1500+? I would suggest that you would "probably" be ok, but given that it's not happened, to the best of my knowledge in a number of years, can you be sure?

[Ozbrit]

Careful, I believe they had 3000+ in the ground at Cressing Road just three seasons ago for the pre-season visit of Spurs. Not sure of the precise details but I can check them out for you if you want.

 

Not wishing to turn this into a 'we're a better than you' bunfight, but there certainly isn't any crumbling concrete at Cressing Road but plenty of compliments from visitors, interestingly, there just happens to be yet another posting on this very point made on the Braintree Fans Focus only yesterday.

 

Reading between the lines of your post its fair to assume that your New Lodge hasn't been fixed up as was mentioned last year by a certain Mr Kent.

[GazzaBTFC]

I've always said that the playing surface at Braintree is an example to every club in the Ryman. Before the past two seasons, we could boast the same but Chelmsford lost interest in helping John Mason to keep it nice and it has suffered.

 

There is still work to be done down at New Lodge. You have to look at the condition of the club as a whole, some things were more important to put right. The club house for one and the board room. The structure of the whole building was rotten and required more cash to get right. It's called prioritising.

 

This summer, we'll be doing our usual Saturday / Sunday morningss to spruce the club up and start work on some more urgent repairs and development.

 

A "certain" Mr. Kent, as you call him, isn't one of these people to try and bite off more than he can chew and all will be done in the fullness of time. He isn't one of these people that to do things he will put the clubs financial security at risk...like some I could mention. Projects to build up the club take time and cash and it's better to do them progrssively and do them well, than to do a rush and botch job. And I think it is time that people apreciated that.

 

As it stands, the club can withstand an afternoon of 2,000 plus 'Ricay and AFC supporters safely. And any CCFC supporters wishing to answer back on this can pull their collective fingers out of their arses and come down and help...

[Ozbrit]

Thats a fair response Gazza. I reckon if you're doing as well next season as you hope to you will a 2000 or perhaps a 3000 gate with AFC is on the cards.

[YELLOW]

Wimbledon were taking 2000+ to places like Leatherhead and Dorking last season. If these grounds can cope with a large number of fans I'm sure New Lodge and Cressing Road will have no problems.

[delboy]

Oztit <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/achso.gif" alt="" />You must have a short memory or never did support Boretree as we had three cup games a few years back with 2000 (give or take a few) at each game. 2 at New Lodge and 1 at your place since when the ground has beeen considerably improved. We have also had 3000 vs west ham and 2700 vs Spurs in a pre season. bring on Wombledon and lets make some money.

[Urchin Boy]

Quote:

c'mon ricay said:
Well simple have a different turnstile for home n away fans as I have no doubt the game will be segregated as we cant expect to contribute as we get a cut from the gate their does what % would be. Im sure youre aware of the setup at NL being such regular maybe when youre bored of the 'football' offered you could continue Sat trips to the beautiful footballing mecca of NL

If You Were To Charge Two Different Prices For The Home And Away Fans, Surley Some Of The Away Fans Would Go Through The Home Turnstile To Pay Less ?

[Ozbrit]

Delboy your post needs translating. You start off with crap about me not supporting Boretree (yer rightI never have supported Boreham at all - been thru it hundreds of times), If its Braintree u refer to, well I was on the committee there 20 years ago, I suspect you were still in short trousers back then.. Then you talk about gates at New Lodge which I wouldnt have followed much, particularly as at the time I would have been domiciled downunder and there wasn't all this info on the internet at ones finger tips. My comments on the (potentially unsafe) condition of New Lodge were formed by mine and other peoples observations in recent times. Hope that clarifies things satisfactorily for you without provoking another outbreak of getting personal.

Thank you.

[Guest]

Now listen up you Abbo kangaroo shagging boretree reject.

 

Back in the olden Days when you were pushing your six fingered hand through the polished Brass letter boxes of Billericay, Crittal united, now known as Boretree, or the little & large show, was a works team full of farmers kicking a laced leather ball in Wellingtons.

 

Granted it’s moved on a bit since then, you use Cryso balls now, but the point I make is, you have no pedigree, no breeding.

But your Billericay, now that’s a different class, they played a Wembley, Mr Young followed in the foot steps of Sir Geoff Hurst.

No matter how much you spout off about Billericay, they know it’s spawned from jealously, so why not poodle off and join your Abbo friends in party at the local Liquor store car park and let the educated folk enjoy a proper conversation.

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[Ozbrit]

Yeah Sunday morning 1.16 the drunks are back. "Works team full of farmers" How illogical is that? Reality is when Iron were Crittall Athletic they regularly had seasons with attendance averages in four figures they also had John Dick on show. Dick just happened to go on to become a goalscoring legend for yer 'ammers'.see this link : http://www.hammersnews.com/html/archive/vintage_claret/vc-John%20Dick.html

 

And a full Scots International.

 

I'm too young to have witnessed this but the real Alf Garnet would have remembered him well. Then Of course Billericay in those days was a small country town with a big influx of commuters looking for cheap housing. Not much chance of International footballers in the making then, just the cows they shared the paddock with.

 

So what could it possibly be thats making me jealous? Ricay were winning the FA Vase 30 years ago. wowee! I was more impressed in Chicks and Ipswich in those days. Other famous winners of the Vase now let me recount some of them - Whickam, Hoddesdon,Diss,Arlesey,Stansted all great names to make you go weak-kneed about. While on making club comparisons (now its started) did Ricay ever achieve joint third in the Ryman Prem before the top 14 clubs left for the conference? howabouts the last 16 in the FA trophy? Isn't that the competition that matters at this level? Those recent happenings are no great shakes really, but respectable enough if your own club can't better them.

 

Interesting how folk with a history of one posting and a daft alias turn up on here as regularly as they do then display un-informed and unsophisticated attitudes. It doesn't worry me, I wonder if they behave like it to people they know or when within punching range?