May 5th

[EFM The Firm, The Voice]

Looks Good to me!

 

1. Lowest inflation since the 60s

2. Lowest mortgage rates for 40 years

3. Introduced the National Minimum Wage

4. Record police numbers in England and Wales

5. Cut overall crime by 30 per cent

6. Record levels of literacy and numeracy in schools

7. Best-ever primary school results

8. Funding for every pupil in England to double (since 1997) by 2007-08

9. Lowest unemployment for 29 years

10. Written off up to 100 per cent of debt owed by poorest counties

11. 78,700 more nurses

12. 27,400 more doctors

13. Brought back matrons to hospital wards

14. Devolved power to the Scottish Parliament

15. Devolved power to Welsh Assembly

16. Banned anti-personnel mines

17. NHS Direct offering free convenient patient advice at any time

18. New Deal - helped over a million people into work

19. Local government funding has increased by a third in real terms

20. Equalised the age of consent for gay men

21. Free entry to all national museums and galleries

22. Overseas aid budget more than doubled

23. Restored city-wide government to London

24. Child benefit up 25 per cent since 1997

25. Created Sure Start to help children from low income households

26. Introduced the Disability Rights Commission

27. £200 winter fuel payment to pensioners & extra £100 for over-80s

28. The biggest rolling stock replacement programme ever seen on our railways

29. Negotiated the historic Good Friday Agreement in Northern Ireland

30. Over 28,000 more teachers in England schools

31. Implemented the Freedom of Information Act

32. All workers now have a right to 4 weeks’ paid holiday

33. Record rises in the state pension

34. 700,000 children lifted out of relative poverty

35. Introduced child tax credit giving more money to parents

36. Banned handguns

37. Cut long-term youth unemployment by 75 per cent

38. Free nursery places for three and four-year-olds in England, Scotland and Wales

39. Free fruit for all four to six-year-olds at school

40. Free school milk for five, six and seven-year-olds in Wales

41. Record police numbers in Scotland

42. Implemented the Human Rights Act

43. Cleanest rivers, beaches, drinking water and air since the industrial revolution

44. Free TV licences for over-75s

45. Banned fur farming and the testing of cosmetics on animals

46. Halved maximum waiting times for NHS operations

47. Free local bus travel for the over-60s and the disabled in Wales and Scotland

48. Record number of students in higher education

49. Extended the Race Relations Act so that all public bodies and functions now have a duty to promote race equality

50. Five, six and seven-year-olds in class sizes of 30 or less

[Electric ~soul~]

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EFM The Firm, The Voice said:
The basic principle of Tory education policy is to cut money from state schools and the NHS to subsidise private education and private healthcare. The Tories' voucher schemes for schools and hospitals will use taxpayers' money to subsidise fee-paying parents and transfer millions from state schools into private schools for the privileged few.

Haha! Copy and paste is a wonderful invention!!

scroll about half way down!!!!

Thought the spelling and grammar was too good to be your own work!!

[EFM The Firm, The Voice]

Of course it is <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

 

Doesn't mean it's not right though <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

[gertcha EFM]

Col, the way I see it now that you have stopped bludging you'll be much better off under a Tory government.

 

As for your list of 50. I'm just going to "pick some holes in that", to coin your well used phrase.

[gertcha EFM]

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EFM The Firm, The Voice said:
Looks Good to me!

1. Lowest inflation since the 60s - it's all relative. 2% inflation on prices now is a lot more that 3 or 4% back in the 60's
2. Lowest mortgage rates for 40 years - and
3. Introduced the National Minimum Wage - Wow
4. Record police numbers in England and Wales - Increased population mate so hardly surprising
5. Cut overall crime by 30 per cent - changed the way they reported crime more like.
6. Record levels of literacy and numeracy in schools - i doubt it. there must be a higher number of people who can't read or write now than there were 20 years ago
7. Best-ever primary school results - for what ?
8. Funding for every pupil in England to double (since 1997) by 2007-08. Bullshit
9. Lowest unemployment for 29 years - if you say so
10. Written off up to 100 per cent of debt owed by poorest counties
11. 78,700 more nurses - increased population, hardly surprising
12. 27,400 more doctors - see above
13. Brought back matrons to hospital wards - fk me. I'm swayed
14. Devolved power to the Scottish Parliament - Good can't argue with that, but we are still giving them [****!!****] loads of cash
15. Devolved power to Welsh Assembly see above
16. Banned anti-personnel mines - no idea what you are talking about with this. clutching at staws ?
17. NHS Direct offering free convenient patient advice at any time - oh yes great. I'm ill I need a doctor, nah just speak to some [****!!****] on the phone who reads you an answer out of a book.
18. New Deal - helped over a million people into work - well they had to do something.
19. Local government funding has increased by a third in real terms - explaine what you mean by real terms please.
20. Equalised the age of consent for gay men - Fk me another vote winner.
21. Free entry to all national museums and galleries - yeah, and who is paying for that. Me and you
22. Overseas aid budget more than doubled
23. Restored city-wide government to London yeah and Ken is doing a good job isn't he. £8 to drive in our capital city. Nice one.
24. Child benefit up 25 per cent since 1997 - just what we need to encourage.
25. Created Sure Start to help children from low income households - never heard of it.
26. Introduced the Disability Rights Commission - Fair play for this one. No argument there.
27. £200 winter fuel payment to pensioners & extra £100 for over-80s. Yeah, but you've hit them with large council tax increases so they are no better off
28. The biggest rolling stock replacement programme ever seen on our railways - news to me. I'm still traveling on them [****!!****] WAGN trains
29. Negotiated the historic Good Friday Agreement in Northern Ireland - well done
30. Over 28,000 more teachers in England schools - increased population yawn........
31. Implemented the Freedom of Information Act - Big Brother
32. All workers now have a right to 4 weeks’ paid holiday - Good for all workers
33. Record rises in the state pension - see inflation
34. 700,000 children lifted out of relative poverty - and put where ? please elaborate
35. Introduced child tax credit giving more money to parents - see child benefit. (Is this not the same point?)
36. Banned handguns - yeah so gun crime isn't up. Did a good job there
37. Cut long-term youth unemployment by 75 per cent. manipulated the statistics more like
38. Free nursery places for three and four-year-olds in England, Scotland and Wales
39. Free fruit for all four to six-year-olds at school
40. Free school milk for five, six and seven-year-olds in Wales
41. Record police numbers in Scotland Why are you making the same point about England and then Scotland. struggling for 50 points ?
42. Implemented the Human Rights Act - Single handidly ?
43. Cleanest rivers, beaches, drinking water and air since the industrial revolution - if you say so
44. Free TV licences for over-75s - should be over 65
45. Banned fur farming and the testing of cosmetics on animals - and fox hunting.
46. Halved maximum waiting times for NHS operations - [****!!****] just manipulated the statistics and let the hospitals become dirty.
47. Free local bus travel for the over-60s and the disabled in Wales and Scotland What about England ?
48. Record number of students in higher education - increased population
49. Extended the Race Relations Act so that all public bodies and functions now have a duty to promote race equality -
50. Five, six and seven-year-olds in class sizes of 30 or less so like when I was 5,6 or 7 then.

[EFM The Firm, The Voice]

Don't shoot the messenger <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

 

I'll be back shortly

[gertcha EFM]

So out of there 50 greatest acheivements of their eight years in power the 20th best thing they have done is to Equalise the age of consent for gay men.

 

Surley there were many more things they could have done ahead of this ?

[Electric ~soul~]

...and any 16 year-old that desperate to stick his dick up another bloke's rectum would have done it anyway, law or no law.

[gertcha EFM]

Exactly !

 

Did you notice how they one point was increased police in England, then further down the list it was increased police in Wales etc.

 

What a bunch of jokers. I thought Thornsy had more sense than to get sucked in.

[Electric ~soul~]

Any politician - Labour, Tory, Lib-Dem, whoever - who comes along and says they're going to let rapists and paedo's hang, will romp home.

[gertcha EFM]

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Zealster EFM said:
Any politician - Labour, Tory, Lib-Dem, whoever - who comes along and says they're going to let rapists and paedo's hang, will romp home.

Well, you say that, but I can think of a few votes they wouldn't get.

covneant, nigel, micky, Sniffer, etc.

[Electric ~soul~]

They're a bunch of pricks who need to grow up and live in the real world.

 

All these amateur anarchists like nigel_h who live in their cotton-wool world where nothing bad goes on, happy to just slag off Maggie or the royals (because all their student mates and Jimbob do), but have no idea what's actually going on outside their front doors.

 

These are the sort of idiots that have left us rotting with a Labour government over the last eight years.

 

Perhaps if some of these people were the victims of real crime, they might alter their pinko-do-gooder attitudes and realise that nasty, evil minds cannot be "cured" with a cuddle.

[EFM The Firm, The Voice]

When have I ever said I woudln't like to see rapist etc hang?

 

The Tories would take Britain back to the failed Tory past of recession, sky high mortgage rates and cuts to public services. Under Michael Howard the Tories are committed to a £35 billion cut to public services. Cuts on that scale could only be found through cuts to frontline services - cuts to schools, hospitals and the police.

[Electric ~soul~]

Can't you come out with your own stuff, mate??

 

It's HERE!!!!

 

I seem to recall, duing the Gulf War, you criticised me for copy and pasting Littlejohn's comments instead of making my own arguments.

[EFM The Firm, The Voice]

Actually it was taken from here <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

[gertcha EFM]

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EFM The Firm, The Voice said:
When have I ever said I woudln't like to see rapist etc hang?

It's just part of your pinko leftie do-gooder beliefs isn't it ? <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

[EFM The Firm, The Voice]

Who said I was a pinko, leftie?

Just because I voted Labour last time and have a slight social concience!

 

Actully talking of cutting and pasting Gordon left a Tory leaflet in my tray here for a laugh and I took a look at it and I noticed soemthing familar:

 

Average Council Tax £2,000

Violent crime spiralling out of control

Unlimited immigration

Dirty hospitals, long waiting lists

More pensioners relying on means testing

More children suffering because of poor discipline in school

More waste and higher taxes

 

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[gertcha EFM]

Good to see there policies are already widley known and the word is spreading.

 

Neck and neck in the opinion polls today. Not long until we move ahead.

 

And you've always been a pinko leftie bludger.

[gertcha EFM]

Have a look at this odd fella.

 

I hope he comes knocking on my door !

 

http://www.mark-reynolds.co.uk/

[EFM The Firm, The Voice]

He's got my vote:

 

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cannabis should be available over the counter in licensed premises, to people over 18. Ecstasy should be made similarly available. Over one million people in the UK take ecstasy every week, with little or no ill effect.