Insanity

[BFR]

I know we support a non-league team but I feel this will provide some healthy debate about football at the higher level

 

What the hell is this all about???

 

 

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[Ian]

Yes, but as it was Tottenham it's <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

[Barry Scott]

from a completely biased point of view, if the referee or lineman didn't see it you can't give it. HOWEVER, anyone with a thimble of common sense would have given it, thus not prompting the massive hissy fit my brother's just had

[Radders]

Watched it on TV and it was obvious even from the original shots in normal speed that it was well in. Carroll's reaction helped him, many keeper's may have laid in the net having clawed it out knowing it was well in, but for some reason he kept chasing the ball so if the lino didn't have a clear view that may have tipped the balance. All in all it shows that some technology is needed in football.

[GarySTFC]

It was at United and things like that are never given against them at home.

[Martin]

It's great you can now go to Old Trafford score the only goal of the game and still not pick up all three points. I wonder if Sir Alex will be moaning to the press about how lucky his team were. Doubt it.

 

The linesman appeared to have his head down as he was running and therefore could not have seen it. The fourth official who was Mark Halsey apparently saw that it was a goal but explained to Martin Jol that he could not intervene.

[Barry Scott]

more evidence for video refs methinks, but only in the case of disallowed goals

[BFR]

Goals have to be scored first before they are disallowed King. According to the ref and lino there wasn't a goal scored last night!

[Barry Scott]

another point, like I tried to explain to my brother last night. The ref couldn't see, so he asked his linesman. The linesman admitted he couldn't see either therefore no goal. If referee's started giving decisions because they thought they might have spotted something we'll be in an even bigger mess

[Staines-upon-Thames Rebel]

Is that not what the do at Ryman level?

[Barry Scott]

I think if there's a shred of doubt in an official's mind he won't give the decision, which is ideally what the linesmen are therefore. I'd like to see referee's being allowed to consult with the fourth official as they can sometimes see things better

[GarySTFC]

Here's the proof the officials got it right:

 

[Barry Scott]

nice!

[DECORUM]

Certainly a dreadful decision by the officials, and perhaps not surprising that such a decision should favour Manchester United at Old Trafford, but two points are worth making. Firstly, mistakes are integral to the game of football and whether they are made by players or officials, they make the game more interesting and unpredictable which we all enjoy. Secondly, the goalkeeper knew it was a goal and so is guilty of cheating and conning the officials, just as much as a dive for a penalty, or 'scoring' with a handball.

[Don Juan DeMarcus]

As a Tottenham fan its shocking! Especially as it shows what little skills the officials have, the question is, of course, would the goal have been given if it was a) Not against Man U Not at Old Trafford

 

I think the answer to both is a definite YES

[Barry Scott]

what is this concept of 'fair play' you speak of?

[Radders]

Have to disagree Marcus. If the linesman and referee don't have a clear view then it doesn't matter if they are at Old Trafford or Stag Meadow. Weren't we apparently lucky against Dover when we were told the ball was well over the line? There is all this chat about Man U getting everything for them at home and the penalties against situation is an indicator of that which no one can doubt. However, Arsenal, Chelsea and others have got lucky in recent times for just as blatant wrongdoings but they are just put down to refereeing errors not some campaign to help Man U. Surely if this was the case then it would be United 11 points clear of Chelsea and not the other way round.

[DECORUM]

Of course, for 99.9% of the time, it was a routine catch for the goalkeeper. It was a disastrous howler for any level of football. In fact, if he had caught it cleanly, I dont think it would have even been classified as a serious goal attempt.

[GarySTFC]

As a keeper, when you chase balls back like that, you have little idea as to if it's over the line or not to be fair.

[DECORUM]

Except of course, that the referee would have been mobbed by aggressive and threatening Manchester players if a goal had been given. Then the goalkeeper would have been 'sure' it had not crossed the line.