Guest Posted April 18, 2005 Share Posted April 18, 2005 What you and Ken are talking about has nothing at all to do with modern day politics or the problems facing the average working class man in the street but since you want to dwell on history and the more complex study of genetics then be my quest. All day long son, bring it on. Right then. I’ll try as best as I can to incorporate the views of myself and the British National Party into the theory that you have succumbed to that there is no such thing as British people, and if pushed could easily explode this myth that you are putting about and the long term dangers for yourself and like minded libels, of you peddling this. I’m not racist; I respect people of each and every nationality and race and respect them for what god made them – different. I don’t hate anyone as you may think simply for having a different colour skin or speaking in a foreign accent. Why would I? That’s absurd. What I do take objection to is the way that the ruling liberal-elite in this country are allowing mass immigration into this country whilst denying people the basic rights to freedom of speech to whether or not this is a good thing. Britain the largest country in the British Isles has always relied on a healthy intake of overseas visitors to make a positive contribution to this country. Going back to Ken’s point about this country being invaded and occupied in the past, yes it has. Celts, Jutes, Romans, Vikings, Normans and Saxons have all made their mark on Britain. Even our royal family from the early Scandinavian Kings, to the French Plantagenet’s through the Welsh Tudors, Scottish Stuarts and German Hanoverians have been influenced from Europe. Indeed that stout little matriarch Queen Victoria at one point had over ninety living descendants and relatives in nearly every royal family in Europe. The myth that Britain or Britons are a mongrel race can easily be exploded because as anyone who has any Scientific knowledge would confirm, the groups mentioned above (Celts, Jutes and so on..) are just that groups or more specifically Tribes who have inhabited mainland Europe in the last three thousand or so years not entirely different races as people like Ken and yourself would like to have us believe. As the pair of you are so historically orientated, perhaps you could tell me and annoy e else reading this how the amount of these arrivals compare with modern day asylum seekers? What is happening now is very different to what has happened in the past and a lot scarier. Who is benefiting from the latest wave of as Ken would say ‘foreign invaders and occupiers’? Whilst European immigration has not been without minor hostility it must be said that it has shaped Britain for the better. The same cannot be said of our latest arrivals. What are they brining to Britain? HIV, tuberculosis and a whole host of other diseases! To what do they contribute? They contribute to the NHS and housing list for starters. More and more building in the south-East, who’s it for? Asylum seekers! Listen mate; believe the filth that Labour and the government peddle all you like. Subscribe wholeheartedly to the notion that mass immigration benefits Britain, send your child to school so he can be brainwashed about homosexuality, can learn everything there is to know about the Koran and how the British Empire is something to be embarrassed about. But rest assured my friend that you’re in a minority. Across the country people are sick of being made to feel inferior because their white and British. Sick of being told that St George’s Day isn’t a good enough reason to celebrate, sick of being told that our flag offends minorities, sick off hearing our children come home with the historical knowledge of Rhodesia, South Africa and the Indian sub-continent but knowing nothing of greats such as Drake, Wellington and Shakespeare. Ethnic minorities have the CRE but who do the majority have? People are starting to realise, and that’s why more and more of them are lending their votes to the BNP! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronin Posted April 18, 2005 Share Posted April 18, 2005 If anyone wants to carry on this discussion can you take it to another forum, we don`t want it on here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken Posted April 18, 2005 Share Posted April 18, 2005 Quote: Anonymous said: The same cannot be said of our latest arrivals. What are they brining to Britain? HIV, tuberculosis and a whole host of other diseases! To what do they contribute? They contribute to the NHS and housing list for starters. More and more building in the south-East, who’s it for? Asylum seekers! you clame not to be racist but in one simple statement you have grouped a whole set of people and put them down purely because of their nationality please also give me one example of a time YOU have been persecuted for celebrating st. George (a person who is also the patron saint of Georgia, Portugal and Catalonia and certain Russian districts to name a few) or YOU have been in trouble for flying a St. Georges cross. everyone seems to know someone who knew someone and yet I have never met anyone it has happened to. as far as the brainwashed about homosexuality, this sounds like one of the most bigoted statements I have heard on this site, are you worried that if your children hear about men loving each other and women loving each other they may turn gay. if your children aren't learning about drake and Shakespeare then maybe you should be sending them to a better school, because the children I know are certainly taught things like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Mouth Posted April 18, 2005 Share Posted April 18, 2005 Well he shouldn't have brought it up Ronin because a lot of people feel strongly about these things and once started, it is hard to give up. But after this one, i promise i will quit it. Anonymous made some interesting points but your last paragraph summed you up perfectly mate. You didn't listen to Ken's point about immigration and just said 'blah blah mass immigration. That is a problem and every party wants it improved, not stopped because i'm sorry pal, whether you like it or not, asylum seekers have the right to come here if they are being driven out of their own country. If you were in a similar situation and you heard that you could escape with your family to a country that is known to take care of you, would you turn that down? I dont bloody think so. As for the homosexuality thing, i am not gay but i have no fu*king problem with people being in relationships with the same sex and if my kid was teached about that in school, i would look at it as an educational thing, so they could look at that side of things and have an open mind, not having the same negative views as all the scaremongers. That's it, i'm finished. There will be no more of this from me because Ronin is right. Anonymous wont listen to this anyway but i had to say something even if it is on this site and people have got the hump with me about it. It is just something i feel extremely strong about and i couldn't leave it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Mouth Posted April 18, 2005 Share Posted April 18, 2005 By the way, the guy who called MOB a [****!!****] will be regretting that. Some little girl who loves riding her horse every day will find its head decapitated tomorrow morning as it will be coming to your bed! Just thought i'd warn ya mate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staying-up Posted April 18, 2005 Share Posted April 18, 2005 I am going to post once only regarding this discussion and thats it I am not getting involved in any slanging matches. All I can say is when the first Episode of the New Doctor Who was shown there was idiots on the BNP website moaning about the fact that Billie the Companion had a black boyfriend. I doubt anyone else watching the show gave it a second thought just those idiots. The only reason I knew about this was it was the link was posted on one of the Doctor Who messageboards and it was the one and only time I will ever visit that website. What made me laugh was on their homepage they have a picture of Children in St Georges flag t-shirts. The flag of England of course but they are supposed to be known as the BRITISH National Party. Work that one out? Ok thats my one and only post on this thread I am sticking to the Football now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 Quote: Staying-up said: What made me laugh was on their homepage they have a picture of Children in St Georges flag t-shirts. The flag of England of course but they are supposed to be known as the BRITISH National Party. Work that one out? I would hazard a guess that it is because St George's Day is only a few days away. Whenever St Andrew’s, St George or St Davis’s (or even St Patrick’s) day is approaching the website always reflects this. If you had spent time looking around the website (which you have admitted you haven’t) then you would see plenty of references to Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland the other countries which make up the Union. People are moaning about this thread dragging on but all the time people keep trying to have a sly dig at the Party then I’m going to defend them aren’t I? Many people who watched the BBC show ' Crimewatch ' on Wednesday the 13th April 2005 would have been stunned to have realised that 9 of the 12 wanted rapists whose pictures were shown on the programme were illegal immigrants!!!. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 Quote: Staying-up said: Billie the Companion had a black boyfriend. I doubt anyone else watching the show gave it a second thought just those idiots. I always told my daughter that sexual relation with a black person would increase her chances of contracting a sexually transmitted disease(fact before any of you lot moan racism). I wont tell you what she said but trust me, It's done the trick. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 it is not a fact, a black person from an African country. but an English black person is no more likely than any other. infact as statistically university students are most likely to have an s.t.i. black people would be less likely as fewer of them are given places at university Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 University students are more likely to have an STD than black people? come on, I've nothing against blacks but we all know that black asylum seekers are far far more likely to carry HIV than the indigenous population. Tell me, which area of the world suffers worst from the Aida epidemic? Oxford? Cambridge? Sub-Saharan Africa? With your ability to blatantly bend the truth Ken I wouldn’t be surprised if you worked for the government. Blame HIV on University students! Whatever next? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 Quote: ken said: black people would be less likely as fewer of them are given places at university Hardly suprising old boy. They seem to have the monopoly on prison membership though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 Hello Boys Can we have our football forum back. I have quite strong opinions on race, STDs, religion, sex and football. I would not dream of popping down the local church/mosq/temple and start spouting on about things that were not related. In the coming month I suspect we are going to be bombarded every which way we turn by politicians, I see my football asa little bit of a safe haven. These issues are really important and true it could be argued all of the anons have not said anything racist, they havent said anyhting new or smart either, but thats another point. There is a horses head on the way to the chap that called me a [****!!****] but again another poit. As important as these issues are this is a football forum. No comment on the fact tonights ref gives an average of three cards a game (Ollie behave). How is Keelings fitness. Who are we bringing in in the summer. Who is leaving. How much are next years season tickets. How are we going with a new ground. How comes Babs old man cant be dragged to a game without moaning. Where was Freds hat on saturday. What did Nan have hidden behind the burger bar counter on saturday that she kept playing with. These are the polotics I want to see here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 This is a cracking thread - keep it up boys. I have wasted nearly an hour of work reading all the way through it. Thats gotta be good. As for my opinions....thats for me to know but seriously......it makes fantastic reading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urchino Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 Gotta say the majority of the Canvey fans that have mullered this guy/guys i'm guessing it's the same person are a credit to not only there club but the country ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 Who cares who won the battle? The fact that the BNP are more powerful than ever, hundreds of new enquires are flooding in every week, and after the next election and the extinction of the Conservative Party membership will increase a hundred fold. We’ll see who wins this war Urchino. Only people are getting mullered every week must be the ANaL as more and more ordinary decent folk realise that the BNP are the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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