ANON' POSTS - DEBATE

[Cookie]

This debate is for registered users only!!!!!!!

What do you think about unregistered posts(anonymous).

 

Do you think these people are "cowards" by hiding themselves in this way?

 

Do you think ALL posts should be "registered" posts?

 

It is thought to have ALL postees registered.This can be done at a drop of a switch, so to speak, so would like a debate on this before anything is actually done. Would like to know your views and if you feel (REGISTERED POSTEES ONLY) this would be better for the forum.

 

How infuriating it is to get someone posting "anonymously" with utter garbage and not give their name or be traceable.

 

Those that do NOT register can easily do so in a minute,it dosent take long to do. Why do they post in this way? What are their reasons for doing so?

Would like to hear your comments BEFORE any change is done. If the main body of people wish it then this change can be affected almost immediately. However if it be the vast majority of "registered" postees wishes to keep it as it is then that will be taken into account also.

If you want to debate this subject I would suggest that you "register" first before giving your comments.

 

Too many times these people come on here and spout off knowing full well there is no comeback. Having their e.mail address or some some of identity can only eleviate these posts.ITS A BIT LIKE SOMEONE PUSHING SOMEONES DOOR BELL THEN RUNNING AWAY.

 

Am looking for your comments pleae concerning this. The outcome will be met by the concensus of opinions from thse registered and those that do remark and still post anonymously should in my opinion be ignored.

 

If you want to comment - REGISTER.

If you want to be heard -REGISTER

 

Its up to those that DO register and their remarks that the final outcome and change will or will not be met.

 

Thank you!!!!!

[ButlerMFC]

JUST SIGN UP! It helps others know who they are talking to!!!!!

[hartgeman]

I totaly agree, its not that hard to register and you don't need to use your own name. So the only reason anyone would remain anonymous is if they want to cause trouble. (not all of them but quite a few)

[and1inthetree]

i think the hornchurch forum is forced registration, certainly no anonymous trolls there.

 

anonymity can be achieved via a vague username, every registered reply in this thread is vague.

 

that way, even if people do want to cause trouble, then you'll at least know who it is, and reply accordingly.

 

would cut the troll count in half is my guess.

 

hope you don't mind my input, but i am registered, if not a margate fan.

[P.W.]

[color:"blue"] I know where you're coming from Cookie, but don't think a compulsory registration scheme would change things.

 

First there's the issue of multiple identities - the registration system is relatively simple to abuse (allegedly a Margate fan was banned from ConfGuide for doing that)

 

Then there's an issue with 'anonymous' nicknames ... you're obviously Cookie, I'm Peter, TonyM is Tony, JohnKirby is etc, etc (you can normally find out who we are if you ask people who don't use the Internet) but MargateFan, Legend, Blueblood, OhBodyform are not so obvious.

 

Then there could also be an issue with people impersonating others - I could register as 'KeithPiper' and mouth everyone off and just watch the sh*t hit the fan.

 

So really there's no answer, we just have to trust everybody ... as in the long run compulsory registration would put people off posting and leave the forum dormant.

[knighty101]

i think the problem with unregistered users is they often post the reply to them selfs... makes the post a farce.

 

but, i feel with better moderating the [censored] posts could be removed b4 there was a problem, and the anon posters who dont or wouldnt register but who post normal posts would be gone as a lot are from other clubs who dont want to take the time to register.

so imo better moderating is needed.

 

registered forum only work if you have a massive user base.

[hartgeman]

i think that should be applided here to. thanks for your input.

[Margate Don]

I'd vote for compulsory registration. Accept that it wouldn't completely solve the problem but it would definately help. Alternative is just ignore anonymous posts.

[Dave Fatboy]

sorry but i work around 60 hours a week have 2 children and that comes first . so if any one would like to help or havnt got anything else to do please have a go . im sure legend is up for it with the comments he has made....... <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/applaus.gif" alt="" />

[David Holden]

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I know where you're coming from Cookie, but don't think a compulsory registration scheme would change things.

First there's the issue of multiple identities - the registration system is relatively simple to abuse (allegedly a Margate fan was banned from ConfGuide for doing that)

Not so, every registration must have a separate e-mail address and we do check for multiple registrations from the same source.

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Then there's an issue with 'anonymous' nicknames ... you're obviously Cookie, I'm Peter, TonyM is Tony, JohnKirby is etc, etc (you can normally find out who we are if you ask people who don't use the Internet) but MargateFan, Legend, Blueblood, OhBodyform are not so obvious.

Agreed but we have a record of the e-mail address and all the IPs used by each registered user so we know more about them than if they were just posting anonymously.

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Then there could also be an issue with people impersonating others - I could register as 'KeithPiper' and mouth everyone off and just watch the sh*t hit the fan.

But if that name were registered we would know where it was registered from (see above) and take appropriate action. If it were posted anonymously we could do nothing except delete the post.

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So really there's no answer, we just have to trust everybody ... as in the long run compulsory registration would put people off posting and leave the forum dormant.

It will certainly reduce the number of postings, but would increase the content.

[knighty101]

misa dave i offered to help you i PM`d you and you Msg`d me back with i must tell MargateFC if i want to be a mod.. this i felt was making it no better than the old MFC forum ther for i decided not to bother... but you already know that! strange you comment on it again tho.

[Cookie]

Thank you David. That cleared up all those queries and as moderator and creator of this forum am sure that if anyone knows the score then you do. Looking like a good debate and has anyone noticed no anon' posts yet. Maybe they are registering at long last. Isn't it refreshing to KNOW who is on here and to KNOW that their I.P. address can be checked for validity.

[P.W.]

[color:"blue"] I get your points David and perhaps I was generalising a bit too much (though most people have more than one e-mail address & can also log in on public PC's ie:the library). Also the only people that could check the validity of post are you, the administrators.

 

The point I was trying to make was that compulsory registration wouldn't be a cure to all evils it's made out to be and may dissuade legitimate people from posting interesting points. For example I've often visited other Clubs forums & seen an interesting debate that I'd like to contribute to (or ask a question to) - I won't do that if I have to register. We've often had amusing and interesting posts from 'away' supporters we could lose that too.

[Cookie]

Legitimate people are registered people in my view.Of course there are others who have sensible remarks,points to make,but again why dont they just register. 1 minute of their time. Why can they not do this? Why does spending 1 minute extra of their time stop them from coming on here UNLESS they have something to hide. More likely to be their true identity. If people have a gripe with someone and they want to send a private message instead of having a row on here then they can do so if they are registered with an address but as an anonymous this can't be done.Its certainly stopped a row on-line for me and I am sure others,in the past. I can only see a better service if this was made compulsory.

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[Cookie]

Thats the first annon' post to have posted on this subject and its EXACTLY that kind of reply that degrades our forum. EXCACTLY that kind of remark that has had this subject come up. Of course it is better to do that off-line in answer to your question unless you are the type to WANT to make trouble.Is it nessasary to have that kind of language on here? NO it isn't.

Thank you for re-inforcing my point MR.ANONYMOUS.

No apologies for the (can't stress highly enough) capitals.

[P.W.]

[color:"blue"]A compromise suggestion (I don't know it's possible perhaps David Holden could advise) .... How about if, under the name of the poster the next line could show the I.P. address of the poster, then we could all see if the mischief making is coming from the same source.

[hartgeman]

that sounds good but what if like me they use differnt computers to post messages.

[Cookie]

But surely Peter if his / her I.P. address can be shown then he/she has registered have they not? If this not be the case then your suggestion is a good one. David,its over to you!

[hartgeman]

i think that simple registation would be the best idea