Dover Fast Food Fiasco

[Guest]

Just seen some strange news that Dover <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/pink_md_wht.gif" alt="" /> maybe wound up for not paying the VAT on the pies and other hot snacks, sold at the shed at the crabble. This has to be a joke, hasn"t it.Crikey they had enough F**king money out of us while we rented the ground. Maybe Riverendshite might know more.

[knighty101]

u know for a second i thought u was joking then i went to there webby....

 

48grand by december lot of cash...

[alan the fly]

Serves them right for trying to bankrupt us

[Guest]

Never like to gloat, especially in our position, but on this one IT SERVES THEM DAMN WELL RIGHT. Also I know from painful experience you cannot beat the V.A.T man!!!!!!! <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/excited.gif" alt="" />

[Guest]

No club is whiter than white. Just say, "for the grace of God go I"...

[P.W.]

[color:"blue"]Reading the story on the Dover site there's quite a serious issue raised by all of this. If questioned how many of us who have bought a cup of tea, a burger or a plate of chips at a ground considered that we were 'eating in'? That's how the VAT people have classified the facility at Dover. They have ruled you are 'eating in' because you are eating or drinking the the purchases 'on the premises' ie behind closed gates.

I'm sure Dover cannot be the only Club to have thought the customers were having 'take-aways', in fact I'd bet that most clubs would classify the burger vans, huts etc as selling take-aways.

Is the VAT man taking the P!$$ ?

[David Holden]

That's not the case Peter, Hot Food is subject to VAT whether it is eat in or take away.

 

I remember when the rules changed a number of establishments installed microwave ovens so that they could sell you could food without VAT, and then charge you 10p (including VAT) for you to heat it up yourself.

 

This soon died out but whether that was because the VATman challenged it or whether it was just too musch hassle I can't remember.

[P.W.]

[color:"blue"] My misunderstanding, but that was the reason given on the Dover website.

[David Holden]

Quote:

My misunderstanding, but that was the reason given on the Dover website.

Which is probably why they got into the mess in the first place.

I hope their advisors have good PI insurance. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

[SteveB]

I know it is slightly away from the topic but are these rules why McDonalds use to charge extra to 'eat in'?

 

Steve

[David Holden]

I wasn't aware that they did, but they can charge what they like.

 

Perhaps the add some to cover the wages of the staff who have to go round and clean the tables.

 

Whatever it is the only tax element would be on cold food where there would be VAT on eating in but not on take aways.

[Ian D]

The term hot take-away food and drink should be understood as including cooked food

which is supplied while hot for the purpose of consumption while hot, that is, at a

temperature above the ambient air temperature. It includes items such as burgers which

consist of hot meat enclosed in a cold bun, cooked chickens and similar food. The term

does not include such food as freshly baked bread which may be hot at the time of purchase.

 

 

Take-aways: Traders whose business does not consist entirely of take-aways

7.1 Although, strictly, zero-rated food and drink supplied in the course of operating a hotel,

restaurant, public house, canteen or similar business is liable at 12.5 per cent, application

may be made to the local VAT Inspector to have the take-away activities treated

concessionally as a separate activity and, to the extent that the take-aways consist of zerorated

food and drink, relieved accordingly.

 

Confused, you will be!!

[blueblood]

a sad story with implications for all clubs. Though with the prices charged by the Dover outlet compared to the charges at our present home, i would have thought the VAT was already being built in. Taking into consideration the rent charged,the general atmosphere of the place,having to play second fiddle to a wedding party, having to watch a film on the tv instead of being able to grt the result service and the attitude of the head honcho behind the counter, ifind it very difficult to find the sympathetic feelings i know i should have. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/bow.gif" alt="" />

[Guest]

bet your wife loves it when your going to the football <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/taz.gif" alt="" />