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[Badger]

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Regarding time added.: 6 minutes in the first half does seem exessive.I'm sure the use of electronic scoreboards in league football does mean that they play far less time-added than we do in non-league games.Would our ref yesterday have put 6 minutes up on the first half scoreboard.?...i don't think so.

I have never seen less than 1 or more than 4 minutes added according to those electronic boards, regardless of how much time should be added.

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according to resent sky sports stats,the ball is only in the field of play for between 25-35 minutes a half.

I recall hearing during the coverage of a World Cup (can't remember when, 6 years ago?) someone said there was Fifa guideline that refs should try to keep the ball in play for approxiametly 60 minutes during the game. Not at least 60 mins, but 60 mins total. Never found anything to back it up, though.

[Cyclops]

Nobody seems to have mentioned that had the referee actually bothered looking at his assistants as often as he should have, he would probably have given us a free-kick for offside instead of having to play on because the assistant down by the Diss bench had been waving his flag so long his arm must have been about to fall off, and we had had enough time to win back possession and push on up the field. Seeing as we scored in that move, I suppose we ought to thank him for the winner!

 

As for the sending off, I totally agree that it was ludicrous. Gant and the forward were heading for the sidelines while Town defenders were getting back to cover the box. No way was it a "clear goalscoring opportunity", whether Gant was the last man or not (something which I could not see from where I was).

 

Also, how come only Town players got shown cards (not that it was a dirty game)?

[Badger]

From where I was, I didn't see anything from any player that definitely needed a card. I saw a lot of Diss players that I wanted them to get a card for, but that's not the same thing.

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Shadow the bottom line is we'd like to move up levels but we've got to win the league first and then win the playoff for a place in the next league up.

I think you'll find it was the crowds on the A10 for White Hart Lane that slowed traffic coming to us. It wasn't Diss Towns fault.

A play-off if we win the league is unlikely as their are 8 places available for promotion (out or 15 teams).In the past no more than half of the step five clubs that qualify for promotion have been able to take up their places, through ground criteria..or whatever.

If say 9 teams meet the criteria this season after winning their leagues (hopefully Town will be one of them).Then only 2 out of the 9 will have to have a play-off to decide who gets the final place. This will probably be down to drawing lots.So if ETFC win the league this year ,they will have a VERY good chance of automatic promotion,and most probably without having to face a play-off.

[JordanB]

but now the ground criteria rules have changed so that may change this.

[Guest]

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6 minutes in the first half,and about 10 in the second. All games played at Brimsdown seem to last at least 100 minutes these days.

It was actually 5 minutes 4 seconds first half and slightly under 5 minutes second half (I forgot to stop my stop watch as I was celebrating with the rest of you).

[Mr Happy]

A really enjoyable game that Town deservwed to win. no way was it a sending off. HOwever, Diss looked stronger in midfield after Gant walked but didn't stretch the game out. They could have really hurt us if they had used the wings more. Wel done to Jim and the lads. Looing forward to the next round.

[andyetfc]

What's the difference betweeen the Gant challenge and Rio Ferdinand's yesterday?

 

Answers on a post card please.

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Ferdinand's was 20 yards nearer the goal. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />

[Jim Cunneen]

Yeh but Man U had Mike Riley - worth at least a goal in every Man U game he refs.

 

8 games at OT - 8 pens.

 

Last 15 games involving Man U - 13 pens - including that piece of nonsense at White Hart Lane. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/diskussion.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/bootyshake.gif" alt="" />

[Southport - TOWNER]

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Shadow the bottom line is we'd like to move up levels but we've got to win the league first and then win the playoff for a place in the next league up.

I think you'll find it was the crowds on the A10 for White Hart Lane that slowed traffic coming to us. It wasn't Diss Towns fault.

A play-off if we win the league is unlikely as their are 8 places available for promotion (out or 15 teams).In the past no more than half of the step five clubs that qualify for promotion have been able to take up their places, through ground criteria..or whatever.

If say 9 teams meet the criteria this season after winning their leagues (hopefully Town will be one of them).Then only 2 out of the 9 will have to have a play-off to decide who gets the final place. This will probably be down to drawing lots.So if ETFC win the league this year ,they will have a VERY good chance of automatic promotion,and most probably without having to face a play-off.

my understanding is that ground facilities will not preclude any club from promotion; as they will have a years grace to complete essential works

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How Enfield Town would have loved that rule, two seasons ago.

 

Also, for arguments sake say 6 of the 8 clubs promoted are given a year to sort their grounds out,and only one or two clubs manage it...CHAOS.!

 

How stupid would it be if ETFC won the league and then had to play a team without a proper ground, for the right to move into the Southern league.

 

Everytime there is a rule change it is ALWAYS after Enfield/Town have been shafted by it.Even in our EFC days ,remember when we last one the conference/Gola league and we were refused entry to the football league.Guess what: From the next season on,there was automatic promotion.

 

Enfield/Enfield Town have been refused a rightfull promotion after winning the league THREE times in the last 18 years. Once to the football league/once to the Conference/and once to the Ryman 1.

 

Paranoid ...ME.! <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/wall.gif" alt="" />

[Mr Happy]

Naturally, I share your sympathies. However, when we were refused promotion after destroying the Ryman Premier League in 95, the reason's given were down to financial irregularities. given Lazarou's shady history it was the club'sfault that we didn't go up. I hope that b***ard gets his comeupence one day.

[Guest]

Changing the subject what a nice lot they were from Diss town , players management and supporters deserve a word of praise . <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/affig.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/affig.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/affig.gif" alt="" />

[Hawkeye Pierce]

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Changing the subject what a nice lot they were from Diss town , players management and supporters deserve a word of praise . <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/affig.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/affig.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/affig.gif" alt="" />

Pre-season friendly please - Diss I'm sure would love us to take a coach up to them. We can import sacks of carrots on the way back across the border! <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/zombie.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/bow.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/zombie.gif" alt="" />

[Hawkeye Pierce]

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the bottom line is we'd like to move up levels but we've got to win the league first and then win the playoff for a place in the next league up.

my understanding is that ground facilities will not preclude any club from promotion; as they will have a years grace to complete essential works

15 teams for 8 places means 7 play-offs and one bye (straight into their new league). For example Enfield FC might depending on the playoff structure win Ryman 2 and have to play the winners of the ESL. Now there is a thought! One presumes that it would be at a neutral ground. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/boxing.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/boxing.gif" alt="" />

If a club cannot meet its current league level standards should they be considered worthy of a place in a higher league - I think not! On that Basis Barkingside and Enfield Town might have edge on Southend Manor and Waltham Abbey! Now there is another thought! <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/argue.gif" alt="" /> Only the top club might be considered so if you come second and have a ground that qualifies then tough!

[Guest]

Does the new F.A rules state that only teams playing in the borough suggested by their name be eligable for promotion ie. Enfield playing in ware. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/affig.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/affig.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/affig.gif" alt="" />

[Guest]

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Thankyou southport towner for your message .I have to say a big well done . For a level 5 club I was very Impressed with the clubhouse and the kitchen area at the back and what excellent food those two girls do. Beer very reasonably priced,sky sports,A very jovial lot you all are there.The stadium itself I gather is still in development but is certainly adequate for a promotion or two.However a little more cover is required.outside toilets not in use a bit of a pain when you need a jimmy.And whats this I find chanting fans -at level 5 unheard of. A Tea wagon well stocked with crisps choccies ,soups and a nice young lady-not bad at all -again reasonably priced,Golden goal ,some draw off a lovely young lady ,club shop -again almost unheard of at level 5,The match was well stewarded lots about,not too sure about chummy on the P A though, St johns ambulance people -again never seen at level 5,playing surface well looked after and in that weather just as well,But what I was Impressed with most of all was the commitment of the fans standing at the uncovered end singing in the rain what a hardy lot you are. I usually seldom comment on grounds I have visited only if they are very good or very bad but Iam going to give you a groundhopper rating of 8;5 which at level 5 has never been given before.I shall pass the word to fellow G/hs and I shall return possibly next season good luck for this campaign Barry (weybridge).Oh and Big fella because you have bad mouthed groundhoppers chesunts Rating is down to 3.

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the bottom line is we'd like to move up levels but we've got to win the league first and then win the playoff for a place in the next league up.

my understanding is that ground facilities will not preclude any club from promotion; as they will have a years grace to complete essential works

15 teams for 8 places means 7 play-offs and one bye (straight into their new league). For example Enfield FC might depending on the playoff structure win Ryman 2 and have to play the winners of the ESL. Now there is a thought! One presumes that it would be at a neutral ground. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/boxing.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/boxing.gif" alt="" />

If a club cannot meet its current league level standards should they be considered worthy of a place in a higher league - I think not! On that Basis Barkingside and Enfield Town might have edge on Southend Manor and Waltham Abbey! Now there is another thought! <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/argue.gif" alt="" /> Only the top club might be considered so if you come second and have a ground that qualifies then tough!

Compo. You are presuming that all 15 winners will want to be promoted. That won't happen. If the winners of the league do not want to move up ,will the second placed team in that league go into the play-off in their place or will only 'winners' be concidered.?

This is worrying. If teams weren't allowed this 'extra-season' to meet ground criteria then there wouldn't be any problem. I doubt any more than 8 would be able to meet the current criteria (ETFC would most probably have been promoted by coming second, based on last seasons criteria).Giving clubs an extra year(to meet ground criteria) will probably mean that ETFC will have to win the league (difficult enough from the position they are in) AND THEN play a 'cup final' against another league winning team to gain promotion. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/sad.gif" alt="" />

At best ETFC would be given only about 5/1 at the bookies to achieve this. So the odds are that ETFC will face yet another season at step 5.That would be a disaster. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

[Hawkeye Pierce]

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the bottom line is we'd like to move up levels but we've got to win the league first and then win the playoff for a place in the next league up.

my understanding is that ground facilities will not preclude any club from promotion; as they will have a years grace to complete essential works

15 teams for 8 places means 7 play-offs and one bye (straight into their new league). For example Enfield FC might depending on the playoff structure win Ryman 2 and have to play the winners of the ESL. Now there is a thought! One presumes that it would be at a neutral ground. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/boxing.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/boxing.gif" alt="" />

If a club cannot meet its current league level standards should they be considered worthy of a place in a higher league - I think not! On that Basis Barkingside and Enfield Town might have edge on Southend Manor and Waltham Abbey! Now there is another thought! <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/argue.gif" alt="" /> Only the top club might be considered so if you come second and have a ground that qualifies then tough!

Compo. You are presuming that all 15 winners will want to be promoted. That won't happen. If the winners of the league do not want to move up ,will the second placed team in that league go into the play-off in their place or will only 'winners' be concidered.?

Giving clubs an extra year(to meet ground criteria) will probably mean that ETFC will have to win the league (difficult enough from the position they are in) AND THEN play a 'cup final' against another league winning team to gain promotion. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/sad.gif" alt="" />

At best ETFC would be given only about 5/1 at the bookies to achieve this. So the odds are that ETFC will face yet another season at step 5.That would be a disaster. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

Depends who you talk to at the moment there is disagreement from some of those that have read the new rules say yes second place might be considered others no <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/wall.gif" alt="" /> The answer is let's not let Jim come second. The teams performance is down to the management team, not me, but I'll do all I can to assist Jim and his lads (along with all town fans)! <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/doah.gif" alt="" />

It makes exciting football for those without a vested interest in the result. For those who have a vested interest it is nailbiting.