Kinnock - what a total sh*t!

[Burnham Lad]

<img src="/forum/images/graemlins/flame.gif" alt="" /> Good ole Neil the pillock,as a final act of vengeance has sacked, without pay, Marta Andreasen the EU Commission's Financial Controller and ace whistle blower as he leaves office as an EU Commissioner, with his and Glynis's fat cat futures secured with massive unearned pensions.

 

Should we worry? You bet! Marta revealed huge potential for fraud and exposed at least €130million of money that went missing, and the auditors said she was right. Yet when she tried to do something about it she was suspended. The guys she pointed the finger at are still on full salary and in office.

 

Why am I incensed about another EU Bureaucrat? Because for a number of years I worked with Marta, and whilst she could be a bit of an abrasive lady who did not suffer fools like Kinnock gladly, she is one of those people who are uncompromisingly honest and would not let go if she thought something was wrong. Just the sort of person I was delighted to see keeping an eye on the cash we have all had to contribute.

 

Apparently the European Parliament are hopping mad and trying to get her a job in the Audit commission. In the meantime watch out, there is a pillock loose and looking for his next lucrative enterprise. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/flame.gif" alt="" />

[pabird]

There can be very few "working"people who have made a lesser contribution to the country than windbag Kinnock

And yet he has become a very wealthy man on the monies he and his wife have made from the EU and if you add the pension from the EU to the PM and MP pension he takes from us directly he will actually continue to get richer in retirement, glynis of course is also due two very substantial pensions

It took a long time but I finnaly understand how being a socialist pays massive personal dividends for little or no contribution to the betterment of society

[Big J R]

I thought Whistle Blowing was now allowed ???

 

Sounds like Marta has a good case for The European Court of Human Rights !

 

Now you know why I get slated for being anti European-Union.

 

Any shred of trust I had with the Union dissolved after the appointment of that greasy pooof, Peter M. as a Commisioner !

 

Lets be honest - The Union is all gravy-train; Jobs for the 'boys'; Bungs; Back-Handers, and to be honest, the most corrupt 'political' organisation in the world !

 

Come to think of it, Pooofter Peter is in JUST the right place to earn enough to pay off ALL his dodgy mortgages !

 

Stuff Europe and stick with The States !!

[The Invisible Man]

Of course the USA is not dishonest or corrupt at all, is it.

[Mark (Flag) Braintree]

I.M <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/applaus.gif" alt="" />

 

With a bit of luck Bush will be out of office, election vote. Murderer. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" />

[American FLEET FAN No1]

I hope Bush DOES get back in......Kerry is another Neville Chamberlain....he would gladly have come back from Iraq and Afghanistan waving a piece of paper declaring "Peace in our time"!

[The Invisible Man]

He wouldn't have had to come back if the yanks hadn't gone blundering in there in the first place.

 

The situation bears no comparison with Europe in the late 1930's.

[Mark (Flag) Braintree]

On the news last night, Bush wants more British boys to go to Iraq and answer to the Americans.

 

"They want to rule the world."

"They want to rule the world"

[American FLEET FAN No1]

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He wouldn't have had to come back if the yanks hadn't gone blundering in there in the first place.

The situation bears no comparison with Europe in the late 1930's.

Tell that to the hundreds of Kurd families that have just found their relatives in mass graves.........Saddam------Hitler!!!!!!....not much difference that i can see!

[Mark (Flag) Braintree]

.and tell that to the hundreds of 3rd world people from Iraq, Afghanastan. just found their relatives in mass graves.........Saddam------Hitler. [color:"red"] Bush, Blair [/color]not much difference that i can see!

[American FLEET FAN No1]

Bush and Blair???...Are you blaming them for these murders?????????At least those two stood up to Hussein whilst all the rest of the world turned their backs!

[Big J R]

'Er Indoors has been chatting to one of her MS mates in Florida on Messenger over this weekend.

 

General concensus of opinion over there, is that Kerry hasn't got a chance ! Too ineffectual. No firm policies on taxation and 'home' government', PLUS the fact that Bush isn't frightened to stand by his convictions, (NOT criminal, I hasten to add).

 

Another thing they all seem to admire, is that Great Britain stood by them, rather than do the usual European trick of appeasement, or even worse, bury their head in he sand and pretend that nothing was happening and it was 'all-right to murder the ethnic minority in a country' !

 

Bush is compared in many ways, to our late great Sir Winston Churchill !

[Mark (Flag) Braintree]

Can't agree, with you two on this.

 

Bush is scum. He is worse than any mad dictator, the bloke wishes to rule the world, kill innocent people.

 

In Afghanastan remember reading a Wedding having a bomb being dropped on them.

 

Ok I know there reasons for going in to these countries, but they are just as much MURDERERS as the people they are trying to kill. They have killed innocent people. Someone who kills innocent people is a Murderer.

 

Two wrongs dont make a right. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" />

 

I will continue to debate this issue with you until it becomes a personal slagging match, (I am not saying you two would do this, but some do)which so often happens on these forums. We are all entitled to our own opinions.

 

I hate Bush and Blair they took the Uk to war on lies, they deserve to die. I consier them both scum of the earth. In my opinion.

 

"ALL WE ARE SAYING IS GIVE PEACE A CHANCE"

[American FLEET FAN No1]

So you are a conciencious objector then, you don't believe in hitting back at Evil Empires.Good job there are people in this world that DO believe in protecting Innocent people when they are being slaughtered.

[Mark (Flag) Braintree]

Don't believe in retaliation.

 

And against innocent people. If you get the guilty people fine, but they don't they kill anyone who happens to live in these countries.

 

It's like me or you shooting and killing Mr.A or Mr.B because Mr.C shot a relative of ours, if you get the right people I have no problem with it, it is the innocent Murders i can not understand.

 

Hitting back at Evil with Evil is no better.

[The Invisible Man]

Hmm, a tad harsh, perhaps. Removal from office would suffice, surely?

 

So the US, with us tagging along, is the world's policeman now.

 

Who guards the guardians, one wonders?

 

I seem to recall the reason for invading Iraq being given as violation of the UN thing about WMDs, not genocide. This smacks of finding a reason AFTER the event. It is also more than a little suspect that TV crews were invited to trample about all the mass burial site (in the run up to an election). In fact as any SOCO or forensic archaeologist will tell you the site should have been cordoned off until the evidence was properly examined, recorded and removed in an appropriate manner. Any evidence for a possible trial has now been lost.

[American FLEET FAN No1]

Who are the innocent people you keep going on about......The wedding party???..a few people, when thousands were slaughtered.......maybe your priorities need adjusting.

[American FLEET FAN No1]

As for the UN,,,,,,,,don't make me laugh.....they just sit on the fence and talk.....

[Mark (Flag) Braintree]

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Who are the innocent people you keep going on about......The wedding party???..a few people, when thousands were slaughtered.......maybe your priorities need adjusting.

Going from memory, I think it was 100.

But the numbers is not important, it is someone's life, with people who love them. Murder is Murder, how ever you dress it up.

Bush, Dr Harold Shipman, Blair - Whats the difference?

There aim is to kill?

[American FLEET FAN No1]

Good job our Fathers didn't feel that way.....or we would be speaking German ..........Mein Heir!