Eton Manor

[Guest]

What has happened to Eton Manor this season? 4 games won and 2 drawn in 15 is not too good. The teams they have beaten are probably the weakest they have played as are the teams they have drawn against. All the comings and goings seem to have disrupted the team. Margolis was brought in to improve the team and this certainly hasn't happened. In actual fact they seem to have got worse. The balance hasn't been reached with all the players who have left and those who have come in. 13 sendings off as well. So no discipline either. They can't all be the ref's fault. All these defeats can't be unlucky. So whatever has changed from last year has made the playing side of things worse even if the club as a whole has got better. Seems like Eton Manor may be around the bottom this season after last season's one hit wonder.

[Guest]

Watched the manor twice v Enfield this season.First time i thought they were poor last week thought they were superb.They need a striker badly.I think bringing in Margolis was a mistake because his a manager and you cant have two in the same club.Something not right there.Manor should start from basics again with whitelock at the helm and a seasoned coach.Last season was great so go back to that and the dicipline well that is probably frustration where it is not going well on the pitch.They are very young so go and sign someone like jason geraghty and things could look up but im sure top half if they manage to keep 11 on the pitch

[Guest]

Totally agree with that. I think another problem with Margolis is that he may be a good coach, I'm not arguing with that, but many of the players are ex Ilford who Margolis wouldn't play and put in the reserves. So team spirit may not be as good as last year when the team done really well. Where would you play Geralty, assuming he still plays centre mid? Quinny and the other I think Whitelock play there so the manager won't drop them (Quinney being a mate and the other I assume a relation? But you are right with regards an experienced player.But will he fit in andbe accpeted by the players? Obviously the players that have gone fitted in but the players brought in obviously haven't gelled.

[Guest]

Well said fromwhat i hear when Whitelock was thinking of going every player would have gone with him so maybe team spirit is not has good has it was and yes there are around 6 players whom Margolis did not fancy at Ilford so again maybe there not pulling there weight.With regard to Quinn and Whitelock both show loyalty to the manager one being his son the other his mate both if diciplined could play at a much higher level but both let themselves down getting involved in silly off the ball incidents.Also i dont think many players left the one i know about was ex Ilford and when Margolis came he went.

[coupwotcoup]

They...ie the Manor...did get a tad gung ho at times yesterday, but their 14th sending off could have been avoided if the ref had used common sense. Yes he was the last man, but hey it was the last minute and we were 4-0 up.

 

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[MbrunoB]

Ref and common sense are two things that very rarely go together but then again the laws of the game dont say if its late and the difference in the score is big, dont bother with the laws.

If the foul had injured one of your players would your oppinion have been the same?

[Foxy2004]

Re Stuart Margolis:Some excellent points made.

There was alot of ex-foxes players at the manor when we played them and Stuart released alot of them. Quite rightly they was going to be upset when Stuart was appointed. Maybe this was the problem.

Knowing Stuart very well talk of him being a good coach is rubbish. He's a very good young manager but certainly not a coach. That was left to Kevin Durrant.

I hope the Manor sort it out.....

Was expecting a big year from them...saying that thers still plenty of time to pull it around.

 

COME ON LADS......

[Guest]

Totally confused by it all.Last season was Manors best for god knows how many years then appoint sacked Ilford manager.Loads of sending offs ill feelings people quitting? who was the most hated club in esl when Margolis was at Ilford and now look whats happening at the Manor,do the right thing Manor get rid of Margolis and go back to the spirit you had last season.Also how many players have followed Margolis and are playing for the Manor for free.= NONE thats shows how many players liked him.

[Guest]

I agree with this. Why did Margolis take the job, so he could oust Whitelock? I'm glad Foxy is honest enough to say that Margolis Is not a good coach. We all know what football is like and people don't forget easily. How would the ex Ilfold players at Eton Manor feel that the man who didn't rate them is now coach. Also, lets be fair Ilford never played good football under Margolis, yes they had good players but Manor drew with them twice last year. Everyone thought Manor played good football last year but this year??? I think Margolis has caused some friction. How many players have left? I know Asa, although he is Stuart's mate, Scales who was Captain, Snazel has gone to Clapton. Anyone else? These 3 players were definately key players last year according to match reports.

[Guest]

I agree with what's being said. I looked at some of last years match reports when Manor were doing well and this years ones. from last years squad only about 7-9 players remain. Out of a match day squad of 16 that means nearly half the squad have left! Maybe thats where the problem lies. Even when squads change and players come and go thats alot of players to lose and maybe they haven't been replaced. I think the management should look at this and like the previous post said get rid of Margolis. Maybe thats why so many players left. How can't Margolis rate some of the Manor players.

[Foxy2004]

Totally agree lads...aprt from the no football played....however

 

I really do respect Stuart and all he achieved at Ilford but the fact remains alot of players left because of him and went to the Manor.Then he joined...!

Surprise surprise, morale isn't what it was. The Manor had this up and at em' philosphy that sadly appears to be lacking now.

What do you think Mr Rifle and Mr Born....?

[Guest]

It's good to have a debate without people bitching and having a go. Makes a refreshing change. With regards the matter of whether Ilford played good football under Margolis, I personally didn't think so. However at this level there is a limit to how much football is played. Probably due to only two training sessions a week and one has to concentrate on fitness. At this level its more about commitment, fitness, enthusiasm etc. I think the best coached/technical side are Burnham. Very good coaches even with players who are not the best in the league. They play nice football.

[Guest]

Agreed Foxy last season Whitelock had Manor on a high they thought they could wing every game and went into these games with that motion of ATTACK ATTACK ATTACK.I know stuart well i played with him and under him and what his doing at Manor is beyond me.15 games 14 sending ofs its not right.Lets hear from someone at the club whats really going on is Margolis causing bad feeling with players who were let got at Ilford,do the players like him also if all players said they would leave with the manager surely Margolis knows they have no respect for him, lets be honest they were a very happy club before he joined.

[Foxy2004]

It'll be good to hear from our friends Manor Born and Eton Rifle.

Whats your spin on it lads...?

[Guest]

I hear most of the sendings off are for verbal. Thats where the lack of discipline/respect is. Any other club and the players in question would be out or in the reserves. Some players have been sent off twice. One fair enough but two is taking the piss out of the manager, other players and the club. Maybe Kirk's friendship with the players is the problem. He doesn't know how to discipline them because he likes them. As for Stuart the players lack of respect and ill feeling towards him is the problem. Best thing to do is get rid of Margolis and then chuck out players who get sent off or continually booked for stupid things. Its better to have good players who stay on the pitch than Superstars who thing they are above the law and can't be dropped regardless.

[Manor_Born]

Some very interesting points raised on here. But lets not forget, one man is not the cause of the problems at the Manor. It would be easily solved if we said " okay this is all Stuarts fault problems Solved" NOT "There are many problems that have caused the issues at the Manor, most of them already brought up in the many comments above. Firstly, Kirk and Stuart have a good understanding, together they face the same problems, its truly not about likes or dislikes, or people not getting on, its about losing some crucial team members that had a major influence on the outcome of the results, why did we lose these players? Not through Stuart as some would suggest, the only player from last season that would not play whilst Stuart was involved at the Manor is David Snazel, Gary Scales had work commitments Saturdays, Asa as you all know moved to finish his season with the possibility of a trophy or two. Who else are we talking about here that has gone because of Margolis?

 

Whitelock is still very much in control at the Manor, Kirk picks the team, Kirk decides the team tactics and calls the shots on the Subs. Lets not forget Kevin Durrant, Kevin has not had enough time to impose himself on the team, he's a great motivator but like Stuart can only do so much with what they have been given to work with. I know for a fact Kirk is successfully working overtime to bring in more players, new signings are already on the cards. Its no secret that our recent results have been poor, but you cannot say that the Manor have lost their heart, that's rubbish, these lads give their all, look at the Enfield Town game last Tuesday, I don't think you will speak with one person that was there that would say the Manor didn't deserve a win, but for poor finishing and the lack of an out and out striker we would have done. The truth is that we need more squad players to choose from, Kirk is determined to put this right and I believe he will, so lets not talk about the passion and heart is missing because it Isn't.

 

I do appreciate you all taking time to write your thoughts on the Manor, its pleasing to know that you care enough for this great old Club, but lets be positive, lets get behind the current management/team and support them, lets face it, these guys do it for free which is what makes it so magical. I personally travel 150 miles round trip to be there with all the lads, I do this because the folks at Eton Manor are the salt of the earth.

 

Keep the faith and watch this space!

 

Regards - MB

[Guest]

Well said mate!

[Guest]

Brilliant!Lets be positive here and back the Manor.

[Guest]

 

great post mate. I have a lot of time for the manor, nice to see a postive post.

[Football Director]

Some very good comments but not all true.Stuart is coach at emfc and a good one at that.We lost certain players through work, one went to Waltham Forest one gave Footy up,only one left because of Stuart.The on field problems are not as bad as people think.Theres many games that should have been won but for bad finishing the sending offs are 95% verbal so how can you blame Stuart for that.You can only do so much and tell players dont get involved but some do and cross the line but with suspensions now in place those players are learning the hard way.Theres no ill feeling at the EMFC so lets put it right on the pitch starting tuesday away at Concorde where we won 5-1 on the first day of season.A repeat would go down well.