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You may want to forward this post to Mr Caulkin, then!!...

 

Date: 9.11.1996

Location: Tbilisi, Georgia

Competition: World Cup Qualifier

Fixture: Georgia V England

Result: 0-2

England Scorers Sheringham (15 mins), Ferdinand (37 mins)

 

England Team

Seaman D A (Arsenal),

Southgate G (Aston Villa),

Adams T A (Arsenal) - Captain,

Campbell S (Tottenham Hotspur),

Beckham D (Manchester United),

Hinchcliffe A (Everton),

Batty D (Newcastle United),

Gascoigne P J (Glasgow Rangers),

Ince P E C (Inter Milan),

Sheringham E P (Tottenham Hotspur),

Ferdinand L (Newcastle United),

 

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I E Wright for Ferdinand (81 mins).

 

Attendance: 48,000

Referee: J C Monteiro (Portugal)

 

 

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gertcha EFM said:
Is this the year when Spurs turn the corner then ?


It's a start.

It's vital that Santini is given the time to make things happen, like Wenger was at Arsenal.

Not that I'm under any illusion that we're about to make an assault on the Championship or Champions League, but we should be happy with Top 10 this season and then maybe Europe the season after.

Too many times in the past we've expected instant success. Now's the time to be patient, with a brand new set-up at the club from top down to bottom.

Hopefully we'll get the services of Reid and Hargreaves in January too.

It's the most positive I've been for a long time.

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Maybe we should get him the boot and get them to give Jimmy a go!

 

 

"Defoe goal provides relief but poses questions

From George Caulkin in Katowice

 

 

 

 

 

IN two senses of the word, England regained their spurs last night. As a shambolic sort of order was restored to their qualifying campaign for the next World Cup, it was possible to marvel in the fluid performance of Jermain Defoe, the Tottenham Hotspur centre forward.

 

Possible, but a little dangerous, given that Sven-Göran Eriksson’s team deal with a lead like a dog-handler with a phobia of canines.

 

Defoe’s sublime goal - his first at this level and fourth of the season - was the highlight of an evening that provided as many questions for the England head coach as it brought relief.

 

One of the most pressing, aside from how to instil composure and leadership into a group of players that need both, is whether he will dare to omit Defoe, 21, from the fixtures against Wales and Azerbaijan next month.

 

The answer is probably yes, but should it be? Even at this burgeoning stage of his international career, Defoe’s freshness is mirrored by a lack of fear and that is a quality that, now more than ever, England require. The same applies to Wayne Rooney, absent through injury, but with Michael Owen undroppable, the mathematics are unkind. It is time for Eriksson to earn his money.

 

The last occasion that Tottenham had provided three starting members of an England XI (two more here than either Arsenal or Manchester United), was in November 1996, when Sol Campbell, Les Ferdinand and Teddy Sheringham all participated in a 2-0 victory over Georgia. Glenn Hoddle was the manager then, but that was not a portion of history to offer inspiration, whether in Katowice or at White Hart Lane. Yet the presence and prominence of Defoe, Paul Robinson and Ledley King told of a new optimism, fragile though it might be, in their section of North London. England’s spine was lily-white; it could not, however, afford to be lily-livered, not with Eriksson treading on treacherous ground and with their hopes of reaching Germany in two years’ time teetering towards difficulty.

 

It was a raw test for Robinson and Defoe, both of whom were making their full competitive debuts. The athletics track that skirted the perimeter of the Slaski stadium kept some welcome distance between the players and a rowdy audience, who were fuelled by beer of industrial strength. Red and white scarves were twirled manically above their heads. The slogan on one advertising hoarding read: “DUCK AND COVER”.

 

It was reassuring to have another “Robbo” in the side and, if the goalkeeper betrayed nervousness, it was in some leaden kicking that left Defoe and Michael Owen with ricked necks and shielding their eyes from the floodlights. Otherwise, there was a solid save, low at the near post, from the threatening Kamil Kowsowski, the left winger. In the preceding move, John Terry scooped a shot from the line.

 

In attack, Defoe was far busier, as well as being a good deal more effective, than his partner. “He can become the best striker at Spurs and in England,” Jacques Santini, the Spurs manager, has predicted, while Joe Cole, his erstwhile team-mate at West Ham United, hailed him as “the sharpest striker in the Premiership”, both of which are bold claims. Acolytes of Rooney may choose to differ, but they do not come without evidence.

 

It was Hoddle who, in typically haughty terms, once dismissed Owen as “not a natural goalscorer”, and if that was arrant nonsense, Defoe would never be tarnished by similar criticism. In schoolboy games of 30-a-side, he fashioned himself on Ian Wright and, in and around the penalty area, he displays the same predator’s zeal.

 

As with many of the species, not every touch is fatal, but ignoring him definitely would be. Before his goal, there had been a neat header, flicked towards Owen, a precise threaded ball to Frank Lampard and, following a clever interchange between Wayne Bridge and Ashley Cole, a millisecond to thrash a shot well wide of Jerzy Dudek. The error was not repeated; in the 37th minute, David Beckham rescued a shoddy free-kick by clipping possession across the 18-yard-box, Defoe span intuitively and finished with disdain. There was greater alacrity to his performance than Alan Smith’s against Austria, Robinson avoided the cruel gaffes of David James and, once again, King was a towering figure at centre half.

 

And yet, and yet. If there is another theme linking England with the Tottenham of recent, frustrating vintage, it lies in their frailty, their uncertainty, their squirming discomfort in the comfort zone.

 

As against Brazil, France, Portugal and in Vienna, a precious lead was squandered; that it was hauled back could not cloak the brittleness.

 

Poland niggled at their feet, but were flighty in positions that should have brought menace. It took an own-goal from Arkadiusz Glowacki to redeem Maciej Zurawski’s equaliser and England showed defiance, but we already know they have that in abundance."

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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The last occasion that Tottenham had provided three starting members of an England XI (two more here than either Arsenal or Manchester United), was in November 1996, when Sol Campbell, Les Ferdinand and Teddy Sheringham all participated in a 2-0 victory over Georgia.


Think the one player from Arsenal and United refers to yesterday rather than 1996, to be fair.

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It was Hoddle who, in typically haughty terms, once dismissed Owen as “not a natural goalscorer”, and if that was arrant nonsense, Defoe would never be tarnished by similar criticism. In schoolboy games of 30-a-side, he fashioned himself on Ian Wright and, in and around the penalty area, he displays the same predator’s zeal.


Always good to see the words "Natural Goalscorer", "Predator" and "Zeal" in the same sentence!!

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Get this!!...

 

Date: 29.4.1987

Location: Izmir

Competition: European Championship Qualifier

Fixture: Turkey V England

Result: 0-0

 

Team

Woods C E (Glasgow Rangers),

Anderson V A (Arsenal),

Sansom K G (Arsenal),

Hoddle G (Tottenham Hotspur),

Adams T A (Arsenal),

Mabbutt G V (Tottenham Hotspur),

Robson B (Manchester United) - Captain,

Hodge S B (Tottenham Hotspur),

Allen C D (Tottenham Hotspur),

Lineker G W (Barcelona),

Waddle C R (Tottenham Hotspur),

 

 

FIVE in one game! And within 2 years, Lineker had signed too!!

 

Gertcha - will you be requiring a Spurs shirt for Sunday? I have a large selection!

 

 

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I think the only light blue one I have is the "European" shirt from 1992, that we wore for the first time against Feyenood in the UEFA Quarter-Final!

 

Otherwise, I have a very nice yellow/blue Adidas/Holsten from around 2001. My favourite shirt actually, but I'll be wearing the white home shirt from the same season (it's a slightly more forgiving size!).

 

Got a couple of the Pony/Hewlett-Packards too, but they're a bit grim.

 

Only other Spurs shirts date back about 10-15 years, I think. Bit surprised - thought I had more than that.

 

 

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